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Trump's Teen Rape Allegation resurfaces...

Dans La Lune said:
This allegation predates his presidency, and ties Trump into sexual assault alongside Jeffery Epstein, a known pedophile. Of course it happened.
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Allegations are not proof.
 
TheParser said:
1. Freedom of speech is nice and dandy.

2. But there should be reasonable limits.

3. To accuse someone of "raping" a 13-year-old without any corroborating evidence is beyond the pale.


4. Many a boy or man has had his life destroyed by such false accusations.

5. In today's toxic atmosphere, there are individuals who are willing to say anything in order to claim financial compensation or to have the proverbial 15 minutes of fame or even to sell one's latest book.
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The victim wrote the account in a affidavit, which is a legal document. She has the right to record such incidents involving criminal conduct and hire a lawyer without evidence. And no, she shouldn’t, nor should any alleged victim be charged with reporting or talking about a crime without first providing evidence. Plenty of victims talk about family sexual abuse without offering proof or evidence, and long after the statute of limitations is up.

At some point, you Trump supporters should consider this is an issue of how society deals with and reacts to actual sex crime victims as a whole, and stop desperately trying to defend Trump by saying nonsense stuff like you did above
 
Mason66 said:
What is happening with those 19 women? Where are the cases and in what court are they being tried in?

Anybody can accuse anybody of anything.
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We have 19 women accusing of sexual misconduct, misconduct similar to what we have on tape he bragged about, both on the Access Hollywood tape and again on Howard Stern, where the accusers accuse him of the very things he had bragged about


I should say the odds of those accusations by that many women of a sitting president, a president who is notorious for bullying anyone who challenges him, who threatens them with lawsuits, disparages them on a national TV with the full weight of the presidency, noting that a number of these women are republicans , I should say those women wouldn't put themselves though that kind of ringer unless they were motivated by justice, integrity, and for fear if they didn't say something, the president might do it to other women, and they no choice but to inform the public on just what kind of person this president is --- I should say these women are of high moral character that they's risk all of this in order to exact justice, because it's the right thing to do.

One or two women, you might have a point, but 19?

But, apparently the obvious is oblivious to you.
 
haymarket said:
That is it!!!! You obviously went to a far superior school that taught Latin than did I. At PS 269 they barely taught us a bastard form of English.
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I did learn Latin up to the age of 17. I found that it made learning other Romance languages like French and Spanish so much easier. It's extraordinary just how much Latin is still used in everyday English; ad hoc, ad infinitum, quid pro quo(!), et cetera (etc).
 
Acadia said:
Ukraine is going to end Biden's run and won't touch Trump.
You need a dose of reality if you think Democrats can engineer a coup to remove a duly-elected President for political gain.
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Coup? What's up with the right's usage of this word? Unless you consider either impeachment and removal from office or being voted out a coup.

Coup means violent among other things and only the right threatens the use of violence. Trump will even pay your legal bills.
 
snakestretcher said:
I did learn Latin up to the age of 17. I found that it made learning other Romance languages like French and Spanish so much easier. It's extraordinary just how much Latin is still used in everyday English; ad hoc, ad infinitum, quid pro quo(!), et cetera (etc).
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You are lucky you have that ability. I was always a stone wall when it came to languages in school. I barely learned English and that was our native language. ;)
 
OscarLevant said:
We have 19 women accusing of sexual misconduct, misconduct similar to what we have on tape he bragged about, both on the Access Hollywood tape and again on Howard Stern, where the accusers accuse him of the very things he had bragged about


I should say the odds of those accusations by that many women of a sitting president, a president who is notorious for bullying anyone who challenges him, who threatens them with lawsuits, disparages them on a national TV with the full weight of the presidency, noting that a number of these women are republicans , I should say those women wouldn't put themselves though that kind of ringer unless they were motivated by justice, integrity, and for fear if they didn't say something, the president might do it to other women, and they no choice but to inform the public on just what kind of person this president is --- I should say these women are of high moral character that they's risk all of this in order to exact justice, because it's the right thing to do.

One or two women, you might have a point, but 19?

But, apparently the obvious is oblivious to you.
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Nothing is lost on me. Where are these complaints and who is processing them.

You say we have the complaints against a sitting President. It sounds like you are trying to imply this happened while he was in the White House.

These allegations happened while he was running in 2016 to prevent him from winning. That didn't work, so we heard nothing from them again.

You need to stop being fooled by election tricks.
 
Mason66 said:
Nothing is lost on me. Where are these complaints and who is processing them.

You say we have the complaints against a sitting President. It sounds like you are trying to imply this happened while he was in the White House.

These allegations happened while he was running in 2016 to prevent him from winning. That didn't work, so we heard nothing from them again.

You need to stop being fooled by election tricks.
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Doesn't matter when it happened, it goes to what we, as a society, expect in the way of character of a president.


A few allegations, that's one thing, but 19? That sounds like serial sex predation, to me. Any man can have a few flings, a couple of accusations, it can happen to anyone in power, but serial sexual assualt is a bit much.
 
OscarLevant said:
Doesn't matter when it happened, it goes to what we, as a society, expect in the way of character of a president.


A few allegations, that's one thing, but 19? That sounds like serial sex predation, to me. Any man can have a few flings, a couple of accusations, it can happen to anyone in power, but serial sexual assualt is a bit much.
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It sounds like serial payment to desperate women to make a political statement.

Where are the allegations now? Why haven't we heard anything about any of them for the past three years? I bet it is because there is an election close that we are hearing about them again.

They are not any more true than they were the last time.
 
Mason66 said:
Allegations are not proof.
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If only you applied this to standard to Democrats who are accused. I'm would love to know what your position was on the Clinton Foundation allegations. Or Trump's Biden corruption claims.
 
Mason66 said:
It sounds like serial payment to desperate women to make a political statement.

Where are the allegations now? Why haven't we heard anything about any of them for the past three years? I bet it is because there is an election close that we are hearing about them again.

They are not any more true than they were the last time.
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Trump said he was going to suit those women. Where are his lawsuits?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
If only you applied this to standard to Democrats who are accused. I'm would love to know what your position was on the Clinton Foundation allegations. Or Trump's Biden corruption claims.
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An allegation is an allegation no matter who it is lodged against. The investigation comes after that if there is anything to them.

There doesn't seem to be in this case as three years have passed and still there is no active cases.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Trump said he was going to suit those women. Where are his lawsuits?
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Why would he need to suit? them if there are no active cases.

If they continue to slander him, I am sure his legal team will take action.
 
Mycroft said:
And there are a lot of people and organizations who are willing to pay big money to someone willing to say anything for money...especially if it'll damage Trump.
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Right? I hear Trump is a Muslim from Kenya who pals around with terrorists and occasionally wears tan suits. Poor trump.
 
Dans La Lune said:
I 100% believe this story, and I believed it years ago when I heard about it. Trump supporters have to ask themselves if there is even a slight chance that this is true, how far are they willing to go to defend him.
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See my sig for a standard trumpette reply to this exact scenario.
 
Dans La Lune said:
I 100% believe this story, and I believed it years ago when I heard about it. Trump supporters have to ask themselves if there is even a slight chance that this is true, how far are they willing to go to defend him.



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Trump Teen Rape Allegation Resurfaces, Ronan Farrow Claims National Enquirer Tried to Protect Him in New Book
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Did Trump rape? Did Bill Clinton rape? Did Kavanaugh rape? Did Dr. Ford rape? Did Elijah Cummings rape? Did JFK rape? Did Obama rape? Who knows?

But let's ask ourselves, 'How much time and money should we invest in researching every claim that surfaces from events dating back 3/4ths of a century?'
 
Mason66 said:
Why would he need to suit? them if there are no active cases.

If they continue to slander him, I am sure his legal team will take action.
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He claimed he was going to sue them after the election. What happened?

“Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign, total fabrication. The events never happened, never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over,” Trump said, eliciting cheers from the crowd in Gettysburg, Penn.
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Donald Trump Says He Will Sue Sexual Misconduct Accusers | Time

I guess that's just another Trump lie--one of thousands.
 
Mason66 said:
It sounds like serial payment to desperate women to make a political statement.

Where are the allegations now? Why haven't we heard anything about any of them for the past three years? I bet it is because there is an election close that we are hearing about them again.

They are not any more true than they were the last time.
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I don't take the cynical view like you do, I just don't. I stand by my comment, and the logic you are using isn't strong at all.
 
Mason66 said:
Nothing is lost on me. Where are these complaints and who is processing them.

You say we have the complaints against a sitting President. It sounds like you are trying to imply this happened while he was in the White House.

These allegations happened while he was running in 2016 to prevent him from winning. That didn't work, so we heard nothing from them again.

You need to stop being fooled by election tricks.
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Quit imagining things.
 
snakestretcher said:
Well, that's three so far. Progress.
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In terms of a psychology defense mechanism, it's called "identification with the aggressor."
Yes, you'll find idiots like these three. But they are not very numerous.
 
marke said:
Did Trump rape? Did Bill Clinton rape? Did Kavanaugh rape? Did Dr. Ford rape? Did Elijah Cummings rape? Did JFK rape? Did Obama rape? Who knows?

But let's ask ourselves, 'How much time and money should we invest in researching every claim that surfaces from events dating back 3/4ths of a century?'
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That's disingenuous. Obama was never accused of rape; not even close. You're throwing his name there for good measure, but everybody knows that Obama's integrity is way above Trump's lack thereof.
 
The AntiDonald said:
And it couldn't happen to a more deserving person. With Trumps history of accusations, I would believe just about anything about the man child. He is nothing better than a disgusting human being. If he even qualifies for being human. Without evidence, it will once again bounce off the Teflon Don. At the same time, the now woman, has every right to tell her story.
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Translation-you will believe any accusations against Trump, no matter how specious or how unsupported. Why do all these alleged assaults come to light now? Sounds like BS to me. Its like the idiots who claim Kavanaugh abused them but they were unable to remember those things until he was about to be seated on the Supreme Court.
 
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