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Things look worse for Trump

In your scenario the Senate would be saying the evidence presented by the House was not sufficient to meet the standards required for Impeachment.

Democrats know they are lying about Trump and that he will not be impeached in the House, but they also know they must keep lying and deceiving Americans for as long as possible to do the most damage to his reputation leading up to the 2020 election.
 
How about reported today: Manufacturing jobs at the lowest level in a decade. I thought Trump promised so much growth, we'd be able to pay off our debt in 4 years. People will all remember these lies next November, if he gets that far.
 
She won the popular vote, no one was able to foresee that a fluke in the electoral college would put Trump in the WH.
WE do need a stronger candidate, though.

What democrat cultists do not see or will not admit is that the fact that stuffed democrat ballot boxes in so many democrat precincts in Detroit suggests there may have been massive voter fraud also in other democrat precincts across the nation which were not detected because no recount exposed them like in Detroit.
 
So the carefully crafted and vehemently protected by tightly defended and protected democrat lying narrative goes.

Your Bible says not to give false testimony against thy neighbor. Why can't you follow that simple command? ;)
 
She won the popular vote, no one was able to foresee that a fluke in the electoral college would put Trump in the WH.

LBJ won his election to the US Senate because he got just enough popular votes to put him over the top. Similar to the case of Al Franken, some mysterious votes showed up days after the election which changed the outcome in the democrat's favor. The election might possibly have been changed in the democrats' favor in Florida if Snipes had only been successful in the days after the election in coming up with enough new democrat votes to change the outcome of the election in democrat favor. Thank God that woman was stopped and later removed for her history of corruption and incompetence.

There was no delay of days in LBJ's election, however. He narrowly won because the last precinct reporting on election night put him barely over the top with more votes cast in his favor than were registered voters in that county. Voter fraud has been a democrat asset for decades.

It remains a marvel that votes were counted by hand and the totals turned in 50 years ago on election night and Brenda Snipes could not get the vote count out in a week using a mob of workers using computers.
 
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Democrats are still swinging votes by constant lying and deceiving the American voters. Also, democrats also have a huge advantage in their long practiced corruption by voter fraud that they have shamed and deceived gullible Americans into erroneously believing does not exist.

Yet y'all have done many "investigations" that yield nothing of import.

But the investigators make up some excuse why and y'all buy it and the unsubstantiated remains "fact".
 
He could have 100K in a stadium, that doesn't absolve him of impeachable offenses.
This new line of attack, that the house doesn't have the votes? It is going to be fun to see that line of attack mutate after he is Impeached in the house.

I watched as much of his rally as I could stomach.

Looked more like a professional wrestling match than anything. Complete with cute nicknames.

One debunked conspiracy after another repeated and cheered

You know what it reminded me of?

The Stepford Wives.
 
He could have 100K in a stadium, that doesn't absolve him of impeachable offenses.
This new line of attack, that the house doesn't have the votes? It is going to be fun to see that line of attack mutate after he is Impeached in the house.

Well, they sure are dragging their feet about it. I wonder why that is. Could it be those 40 Dems in Trump districts?
 
She won the popular vote, no one was able to foresee that a fluke in the electoral college would put Trump in the WH.
WE do need a stronger candidate, though.

I watched democrat news anchors and reporters on election night. None of them were focusing on national totals of the popular vote count. They were all without exception focused on the electoral college vote count, as they had always been in preceeding elections for as long as anyone can remember. The electoral college only became an anathema after the election and democrats were desperately seeking some justification for not accepting the legitimate results of the election.
 
You do realize that Clinton's numbers with Democrats were that high as well, and he was still impeached.

Poll numbers notwithstanding, Clinton was impeached for cause and Trump is being impeached without cause.
 
Hi! Thanks for posting. Let me clarify.

If the Senate votes not to impeach, there can be two reasons. Either, for each and every charge, there is insufficient evidence or the charge is not considered an impeachable offense under the Constitution. Winkling out how each Senator voting 'Nay' on each issue viewed the matter's a lengthy and, possibly, impossible task.

Regards.



It will at least by somewhat satisfying to find out what charges democrats are basing their impeachment on once they come out of the closet, impeach him and turn the matter over to the Senate into the light out of the current cover of secrecy and darkness.
 
Well, they sure are dragging their feet about it. I wonder why that is. Could it be those 40 Dems in Trump districts?
Is this part 2 of your bet where you wagered there were NO dems in orange districts that called for the impeachment inquiry?

Remind me, how did that turn out?
 
He could have 100K in a stadium, that doesn't absolve him of impeachable offenses.
This new line of attack, that the house doesn't have the votes? It is going to be fun to see that line of attack mutate after he is Impeached in the house.

Democrats have not yet specified what charges they are accusing Trump of, nor have they made any compelling case that those charges are legitimate. What seems clear is that they intend to impeach him with or without charges for political reasons and they know they can do so because they are in charge and can do what they want, whether illegal, immoral, unethical, silly, stupid or otherwise.
 
Democrats have not yet specified what charges they are accusing Trump of, nor have they made any compelling case that those charges are legitimate. What seems clear is that they intend to impeach him with or without charges for political reasons and they know they can do so because they are in charge and can do what they want, whether illegal, immoral, unethical, silly, stupid or otherwise.

Trump is the subject of an investigation. It is normal custom and regular practice to charge somebody AFTER the investigation has yielded its information.

I will leave it to others to decide if pretending not to know this fact is silly or stupid or immoral or unethical.
 
And the verifiable evidence of your claim of longtime voter fraud would be found where in your post?

Massive numbers of stuffed democrat ballot boxes were uncovered in the Detroit recount before the recount was shut down. There was no other proof of democrat voter fraud because there were no other recounts. There were evidences of voter fraud in North Carolina but the democrat elections officials refused to allow a recount here as well.

We have no idea how many fraudulent votes were submitted in places like California where it is illegal to question potential voters about citizenship or require proofs of citizenship.
 
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I watched democrat news anchors and reporters on election night. None of them were focusing on national totals of the popular vote count. They were all without exception focused on the electoral college vote count, as they had always been in preceeding elections for as long as anyone can remember. The electoral college only became an anathema after the election and democrats were desperately seeking some justification for not accepting the legitimate results of the election.

Yet another sign that Trump is smarter than the demoncrats...
Trump had the foresight to recognize the EC as an anathema even earlier than the demoncrats.
Trump declared the EC a "disaster for democracy" back in 2012.

It took years for the demoncrats to catch up with Trump on that.
 
Democrats have not yet specified what charges they are accusing Trump of, nor have they made any compelling case that those charges are legitimate.
Well duh, you won't see that until it is passed and sent to the Senate.

What seems clear is that they intend to impeach him with or without charges
Right, they will send an impeachment article.....without charges.

Good grief.

for political reasons
there will be multiple criminal charges.

and they know they can do so because they are in charge and can do what they want, whether illegal, immoral, unethical, silly, stupid or otherwise.
you are confusing this current WH admin with the House.
 
I seem to remember a certain Rep, who is now the Minority leader in the house, concede that the Benghazi! (spoken with shaking skyward fist) hearings were designed to cripple Clinton's chances.
But you gloss over that for, reasons.

Some people may have thought the Benghazi hearings were political and uncalled for. I wanted the truth to come out about Benghazi for lots of reasons, one being that I hurt for the families of the victims who were told by Clinton that she was going to find and jail the conservative American filmmaker who caused the attack and that it really didn't matter how or why those Americans died at this point.
 
How about reported today: Manufacturing jobs at the lowest level in a decade. I thought Trump promised so much growth, we'd be able to pay off our debt in 4 years. People will all remember these lies next November, if he gets that far.

Trump had expectations which were not right. He made promises which were not wise and could not be fulfilled. Nevertheless, democrats are wrong to think replacing Trump with a dummass free-spending, budget-busting fake Mexican or white woman of color will eliminate lying, stupidity or failures to achieve campaign promises from the White House.
 
Yet y'all have done many "investigations" that yield nothing of import.

But the investigators make up some excuse why and y'all buy it and the unsubstantiated remains "fact".

I am ashamed of republicans for not plowing through democrat opposition to fully investigate the multiple evidences of possible voter fraud. There have been no thorough investigations into possible voter fraud thanks to obstruction from democrats. You can believe something else if that is your determination.
 
Trump is the subject of an investigation. It is normal custom and regular practice to charge somebody AFTER the investigation has yielded its information.

I will leave it to others to decide if pretending not to know this fact is silly or stupid or immoral or unethical.

Trump has repeatedly been falsely charged and investigated by democrats who always hide their crooked dealings under the fake cover of secrecy belonging to legitimate investigations. Time is running out for them, however. 2020 is around the corner and all their past efforts to find some charge against Trump have failed to stick. Now they are proceeding with a quasi impeachment process while claiming the proceedings must be kept secret because of the investigation. So which is it, an impeachment or an investigation? Or is it 'to hell with waiting for any investigation to uncover an impeachable offense, we are going to proceed with the impeachment without charge and to hell with Americans if they don't approve or don't like that.'
 
Yet another sign that Trump is smarter than the demoncrats...
Trump had the foresight to recognize the EC as an anathema even earlier than the demoncrats.
Trump declared the EC a "disaster for democracy" back in 2012.

It took years for the demoncrats to catch up with Trump on that.

I understand why campaign losers would want to criticize and demonize the traditional American voting processes if they cannot face the fact they lost an election due to their weaknesses as a candidate. Criticizing traditional American voting methods by a candidate after a loss is hardly any support for claiming the losing anti-American tradition candidate should have won.
 
Massive numbers of stuffed democrat ballot boxes were uncovered in the Detroit recount before the recount was shut down. There was no other proof of democrat voter fraud because there were no other recounts. There were evidences of voter fraud in North Carolina but the democrat elections officials refused to allow a recount here as well.

We have no idea how many fraudulent votes were submitted in places like California where it is illegal to question potential voters about citizenship or require proofs of citizenship.

You have presented nothing to verify your accusations. Present your verifiable evidence.
 
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