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Lets see if President Obama is involved

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"A very good brain"

"A stable genius".

When trump speaks you can count on whatever declaration he's making is the exact opposite of what he's claiming!
 
bullseyelqcs said:
You made a bad assumption....I dont hate Donald Trump. I just personally believe he isnt fit for the office of President. I believe he has been incompetent and has denigrated the prestige of the office. I just dont understand why people are okay with him running the White House like the ****ing Apprentice.

People like you bring up manufactured crisises around Trump all the time. And I admit that there have been some.....but not everything that has been brought up is manufactured. The man has said and owned up to some of the ****, and you love him even more for it. Telling someone else they have a problem all while refusing to see what is right in your face is a problem with you, not the person who is pointing out whats going on.
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I did not say you did hate Trump, but you are parroting their talking points, so it was reasonable to ask.

Your response is making me doubt your candor when you say not. There are manufactured crisises. The Mueller probe was the big one, but there is a new trial balloon every week, at least--coming recession, Putin and ISIS, just yesterday version 7.6c of Putin and Syria, Trump's mental health, Trump's physical health, using Trump properties for the G7 meeting, etc. They are all manufactured. Suddenly Democrats are favoring military intervention because they have to keep up the lie of the day.

The bottom line is that the Democratic party has become Trump-hate-R-Us. That's fine for the Trump haters, but there are not nearly enough of them. Most people have more sense.
 
Jay59 said:
The ones making all the accusations are projecting their own misdeeds. Bill Clinton is a serial sex offender, so you try to paint Kavenaugh as one. Obama was spying on Trump and using foreign assets to do it, so now you accuse Trump of doing it.

He's not paranoid, he's right.
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If You consider Bill Clinton a serial sex offender, then you must realize Trump is the same.
 
I am surprised that President Trump mentioned President Obama in that video.

President Trump is a businessman and a TV star, so he is not a naïve babe in the woods.

We all know that no one in authority would ever dare take any kind of formal action against the 44th president of the United States.

That is just a fact of life that everyone tacitly accepts.

And the other individuals that he named will also never be indicted for anything. Their friends in the judiciary and in the bureaucracy will protect them.

Yes, President Trump has an abrasive personality, but he is right on the money when he says that the powers that be have been conspiring since Day 1 to overthrow him, for they feel that the government belongs to the Democratic party, not the voters.
 
Jay59 said:
I did not say you did hate Trump, but you are parroting their talking points, so it was reasonable to ask.

Your response is making me doubt your candor when you say not. There are manufactured crisises. The Mueller probe was the big one, but there is a new trial balloon every week, at least--coming recession, Putin and ISIS, just yesterday version 7.6c of Putin and Syria, Trump's mental health, Trump's physical health, using Trump properties for the G7 meeting, etc. They are all manufactured. Suddenly Democrats are favoring military intervention because they have to keep up the lie of the day.

The bottom line is that the Democratic party has become Trump-hate-R-Us. That's fine for the Trump haters, but there are not nearly enough of them. Most people have more sense.
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Manufactured? Lifelong Republicans do no agree.
 
US&THEM said:
If You consider Bill Clinton a serial sex offender, then you must realize Trump is the same.
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Only in the sense that a pickpocket (Trump) and and armed robber (Clinton) are the same. I do not make that equivalence. Neither should you.
 
US&THEM said:
Manufactured? Lifelong Republicans do no agree.
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Fabricated, invented, 90% fiction/10% lies. Pick one you like better. ;)

I am sure there are lifelong Republicans that don't agree. Trump only has 90% approval among Republicans. There are also lifelong Republicans that are Trump haters, eg George Will and Bill Krystol. The questions is if there are any that are not both?
 
Jay59 said:
Only in the sense that a pickpocket (Trump) and and armed robber (Clinton) are the same. I do not make that equivalence. Neither should you.
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Wow, come on now, how many have claimed they were sexually assaulted by Donald again? How many NDA’s?
 
Jay59 said:
Fabricated, invented, 90% fiction/10% lies. Pick one you like better. ;)

I am sure there are lifelong Republicans that don't agree. Trump only has 90% approval among Republicans. There are also lifelong Republicans that are Trump haters, eg George Will and Bill Krystol. The questions is if there are any that are not both?
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Lifelong Republican Robert Mueller
 
US&THEM said:
Wow, come on now, how many have claimed they were sexually assaulted by Donald again? How many NDA’s?
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None that claim rape. Bill cannot say that.

US&THEM said:
Lifelong Republican Robert Mueller
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There's a tower for you. He wasn't even running the probe with his name on it.
 
US&THEM said:
Lifelong Republican Robert Mueller
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figurehead testalied he knew nothing about his own Mueller Report....it was hack Weissmann... Crooked Hillary henchman that used Comey McCabe Strzok to write a sham report...not worth the paper it was written on.

Durham will prove it soon enough
 
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figurehead testalied he knew nothing about his own Mueller Report....it was hack Weissmann... Crooked Hillary henchman that used Comey McCabe Strzok to write a sham report...not worth the paper it was written on.

Durham will prove it soon enough
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I think you are going to be very disappointed.
 
Jay59 said:
It's a false equivalence. Give it up.

Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Clinton painted. They were buddies. Epstein and Trump barely even met.
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Whatever lies you want to believe to make you feel better. Best of luck
 
Jay59 said:
I did not say you did hate Trump, but you are parroting their talking points, so it was reasonable to ask.

Your response is making me doubt your candor when you say not. There are manufactured crisises. The Mueller probe was the big one, but there is a new trial balloon every week, at least--coming recession, Putin and ISIS, just yesterday version 7.6c of Putin and Syria, Trump's mental health, Trump's physical health, using Trump properties for the G7 meeting, etc. They are all manufactured. Suddenly Democrats are favoring military intervention because they have to keep up the lie of the day.

The bottom line is that the Democratic party has become Trump-hate-R-Us. That's fine for the Trump haters, but there are not nearly enough of them. Most people have more sense.
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Did you not read what I wrote when I plainly stated that there were indeed make up controversies regarding Donald Trump, but that that didnt mean they are all made up? Try starting there....

He has people like you conditioned to respond that because one thing was made up about him, EVERYTHING negative about him is thusly made up as well. That simply isnt true.

Im not parroting talking points....Im calling things the way I see them. If you ask me, I feel like this administration has been a 3 year long episode of the Apprentice, with the President playing the role of himself and cabinet members and advisors playing the roles of Flavor Flav and Brett Michaels. You can tell me Im wrong, but this had been the worst revolving door administration in history, and he was supposed to be hiring only the best....his words, not mine.

The Republican party turned into the party of no the second Obama won the election, so dont cry to me now that they are getting a taste of that vile attitude now.
 
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I'm willing to admit there is a possibility ....but the trend is my friend.
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I’m new here and I don’t think people understand the scrutiny FISA gets by many different entities, or fully understand how FUSA works. This has lead to the hysteria provided by rightwing sites looking to create doubt and make it all look illegal.
 
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You are a sheep if you are that easily led. How about this, let's deal with the issue at hand and when done we can investigate everyone you and trump feel are enemies if the state (trump), deal?
We disagree on most everything when it comes to trump, but from some of your other posts you seem sharp enough to tell good from evil and the Nation. So does your fear and hate of the Liberals really not allow you to see that some of the things trump has done are actually harming the Nation? I am not talking about his personality here, I cannot see anyone defending that, I am talking about his actions and what it is doing to our standing in the world, do you actually believe we will be better off due to actions or worse? No reply necessary, this is only meant to be food for thought on your part privately
 
US&THEM said:
I’m new here and I don’t think people understand the scrutiny FISA gets by many different entities, or fully understand how FUSA works. This has lead to the hysteria provided by rightwing sites looking to create doubt and make it all look illegal.
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I believe at one time FISA warrants were scrutinized ...but Trump was seen as dangerous candidate and the Pols in power along with some Agency heads believed it was in the best interest of the country to take this guy out by any means necessary...legal..illegal..covert..the end justifies the means.

Trump wins and they're caught exposed and Barr and Durham are retracing the steps and finding more questions instead of answers....Durham has hired more staff and expanded his scope.

Welcome to DP...good to have new blood.:peace
 
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I believe at one time FISA warrants were scrutinized ...but Trump was seen as dangerous candidate and the Pols in power along with some Agency heads believed it was in the best interest of the country to take this guy out by any means necessary...legal..illegal..covert..the end justifies the means.

Trump wins and they're caught exposed and Barr and Durham are retracing the steps and finding more questions instead of answers....Durham has hired more staff and expanded his scope.

Welcome to DP...good to have new blood.:peace
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Durham is conducting a review and he tried to use minimum personnel, but I can’t explain Barr’s words or actions. Barr is the Attorney General not Trump’s attorney, think Barr needs to step back.
 
US&THEM said:
Durham is conducting a review and he tried to use minimum personnel, but I can’t explain Barr’s words or actions. Barr is the Attorney General not Trump’s attorney, think Barr needs to step back.
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Barr's in search of the truth....if Obama administration was using covert operations to spy on Political opponent Americans deserve to know truth.

Durham has history of being tough and straight shooter...reason Barr choose him.

If Durham claims its all above board I can live by that...can you if he finds it wasn't?
 
Trump said:
Barr's in search of the truth....if Obama administration was using covert operations to spy on Political opponent Americans deserve to know truth.

Durham has history of being tough and straight shooter...reason Barr choose him.

If Durham claims its all above board I can live by that...can you if he finds it wasn't?
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I have zero issue with Durham’s review whatever the findings may or may not be.

Barr is not an investigator nor has he ever prosecuted a criminal trial, so he is should step back and do his real job.
 
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