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About Hunter Biden

So when Jared is flying on AF1 while obtaining loans for his family business we should pay attention? I thought there was nothing to see there?

You didn't hear nothing to see from me. Investigate them all.
 
Is there a job that Hunter Biden could get where the fact that his father was Vice President, wouldn't improve his chances of getting that job?

If Hunter Biden applied for a job at McDonald's the hiring manager would be like, "You're Joe Biden's son? Wow." Then if the U.S. pushed some regulation about beef people would say Joe Biden did it to help his son.

The entire issue is absurd. Hunter Biden does not work in the WH. I'm deeply disappointed in Joe Biden's inability to communicate the absurdity of asking him to be responsible for the actions of his son who is a private citizen.

Moreover, I hear people say that with his drug problem he wouldn't be able to get that job. Well, if his name weren't Biden how would anyone know he had a drug problem? I'm pretty sure the Navy doesn't disclose why someone discharged. Employers wouldn't know.

If you're Biden, it kind of sucks living in your father's shadow so might as well cash in. You're a private citizen. Why is it our business?

I really wonder if you would say the same thing if Eric Trump flew over to china on air force one and within a week was given a 1.5B dollar investment contract.

I really wonder if people understand the basic concept of CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!!!! I understand Ukrainians and Chinese do not care about conflicts of interest, but in this society, private businesses have detailed laws describing conflicts of interest.

Joey Biden is dependent on BIG DONORS for his campaign, They are actually held up to some pretty strict federal laws for conflicts of interest. They may not feel the same way about this as you do.

PS, China does not give money to american investment banks for investments. That deal stinks to high heaven.

I am not going to argue with anyone about the legality of it. Let's just assume it is perfectly legal. Let's just say Joey was the president of the US, then I would not impeach him. I will tell you this, There are a bunch of candidates on that stage who are better than Joe Biden in so many ways, including ethically, that I have no problem not voting for him.
 
When you have a dishonorable discharged from the military for drug possession it follows you to the grave. Large companies don't associate themselves with those individuals if for nothing else to stay out of public relation problems.

When you are receiving 600K a year as a board member of an energy company you have no expertise in while 20 year EXXON board members receive 330K a year, it starts to shed light on the situation.

When you duplicate the same type of relationship with a China company for over a Billion dollars it gets even more suspicious

When Biden lies about his son discussing these relationships while the son states he had conversations with his dad about his business with Ukraine its covering up

And if the very same situation existed with Don Jr you would be screaming Impeachment at the top of your lungs

So spare us the (whats so bad about Hunter) claims.

Would an employer know that you failed a drug with the navy? I might be wrong, but I doubt it.

Career disruption after failing a drug test is understandably upsetting. However, the fact that you have failed one employer's screening does not mean that other employers will necessarily learn about your test results. In fact, in most cases, there are only a few ways that a new employer might discover that you have previously failed a drug test.

Again, you're making little sense. Hunter Biden can be a mass murder. What would that have to do with Joe Biden? Is a father responsible for his adult son? All your unproven claims are against Hunter Biden.

You don't have any evidence that Joe Biden did anything wrong.

You should focus your energy on defending Trump during his impeachment trial because of the extortion scheme he was running using various criminals in Ukraine.
 
I really wonder if you would say the same thing if Eric Trump flew over to china on air force one and within a week was given a 1.5B dollar investment contract.

I really wonder if people understand the basic concept of CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!!!! I understand Ukrainians and Chinese do not care about conflicts of interest, but in this society, private businesses have detailed laws describing conflicts of interest.

Joey Biden is dependent on BIG DONORS for his campaign, They are actually held up to some pretty strict federal laws for conflicts of interest. They may not feel the same way about this as you do.

PS, China does not give money to american investment banks for investments. That deal stinks to high heaven.

I am not going to argue with anyone about the legality of it. Let's just assume it is perfectly legal. Let's just say Joey was the president of the US, then I would not impeach him. I will tell you this, There are a bunch of candidates on that stage who are better than Joe Biden in so many ways, including ethically, that I have no problem not voting for him.

Do YOU understand conflict of interest? It applies to government employees not private citizens.

Your claim that Biden got some 1.58 Billion contract is repeating garbage that Trump and Giuliani told you. So now you believe Donald Trump?

You didn't answer my OP question. Is there a job where Hunter Biden wouldn't get an advantage because of his name? So how can you claim it's wrong for him to take advantage of his name when it's unavoidable? And finally, what does what Hunter Biden, a private citizen does have to do with his father?

If you don't like Biden and prefer another candidate that's fine. But this line of attack promoted by a con man needs to be exposed for its absurdity.
 
Would an employer know that you failed a drug with the navy? I might be wrong, but I doubt it.

Companies who hire board members usually do it for PR and/or expertise. They will run a background check so they don't associate their stock holders with a bad influence. A dishonorable discharge is a public filing just like a felony. But with Hunter its been public knowledge for years.

Again, you're making little sense. Hunter Biden can be a mass murder. What would that have to do with Joe Biden? Is a father responsible for his adult son? All your unproven claims are against Hunter Biden.

I didn't provide you with any unproven claims. If you want to dispute one call it out and I will address it.

You should focus your energy on defending Trump during his impeachment trial because of the extortion scheme he was running using various criminals in Ukraine.

I might if it is necessary but you don't even have an Impeachment Inquiry and Pelosi has already stated she isn't going to ask for a vote so for now all you have is Pelosi and Schiff making accusations and we know how that has turned out thus far. I have no concerns.
 
Even if we accepted that this is the amount, it still reeks of conflict of interest and we don't know Joe's role. I'm not sure why this is difficult for people to admit.

No more difficult than for you to admit that Jared has zero diplomatic qualifications or experience and yet he is jetting around on AF1 as "ambassador for peace in the ME" while obtaining sweetheart loan deals for his family business from the very foreign countries he is "negotiating" with. If that doesn't "reek" then neither does Hunters deal.

NYT: Kushner's business got $500M in loans after White House meetings - CNNPolitics

Jared Kushner's company under renewed scrutiny over Chinese and Israeli deals | US news | The Guardian
 
So you think Trump should be investigated too?

I think Trump should be investigated by a publicly visible proceeding in which every member of the appropriate body can participate freely. Behind closed door, democratic controlled hearings in which it is already being reported that witnesses are being pressured to testify according to the democratic narrative are not investigations. They are star chambers. Probably why they refused to release the transcript of Volker's testimony as it would appear as if Schiff's blood was on the ceiling after it was over over him trying to strong arm Volker into giving false testimony.
 
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Why have all modern candidates released their tax returns? To show they don't have conflicts of interests.

Why do presidents put their businesses in blind trusts? To avoid conflicts of interest.

Why is it wrong to have your children and in-laws who are involved in businesses working at the WH? Because of conflicts on interest.

I just see you as a comedian.


Right, neither Trump nor any of his kids even take a salary but they are enriching themselves. Clownish.
 
Careful. “Quid pro” is stealing from Trump. The Hunter Biden sideshow is so obvious a diversion from the President’s corrupt use of Constitutional power you might think it would have closed by now, but here we are.

The only people trampling on law are Schiffhead and his followers.
 
Who is this "we", kemosabe?Ah, we don't know the Fathers "role".....but there must be "conflicts of interests!".

Maybe....because it sounds....mmm....fabricated.


What I have a hard time understanding is how a trumper can even begin to so hypocritical about the children of political parents and their incomes derived from influence and connections. How does that work?

Right, what Biden bragged about is fabricated but Trump being a Russian agent is the gospel. It would be funny if not so damn dumb.
 
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No one believes that.

Most Americans are wondering why Trump acolytes keep trying to gaslight the public with the kinds of idiotic, fact-free talking points about the Bidens. We already know, for a FACT, that the Ukranians already concluded that Hunter Biden violated no laws.

We already know, for a FACT, that the entire Hunter Biden story has been discredited as another bat-crap-crazy-conspiracy-theory from the far-right fever swamps of the alt-right internet. Every legitimate major news organization has reported on this, already. Heck, even FOXNEWS is reporting that BOTH Ukrainian and U.S. investigators ruled out any possibility of illegality on the part of Biden in his dealings with Burisma. Listen to one of your own, i.e. "Judge Andrew Napolitano": Judge Napolitano on whether Democrats coordinated with whistleblower | On Air Videos | Fox News

We already know that, even though Hunter Biden did nothing wrong, the TRUMP KIDS have been profiting off of their daddy's presidency for the last 3 years, with Ivanka and Jared leading the charge. Most recently, Ivanka was awarded 16 separate Chinese patents for her "beauty care" line of products. And she's ON THE PAYROLL of the White House, for Pete's sake.

So, you people aren't fooling anyone. Not any longer. The public understands that the Trumps are corrupt, inept and compromised...and that Trump's alt-right followers are too brainwashed (or just too stupid) to be taken seriously at this point.

Glad to see you have the utmost faith in the Ukrainians while talking out the other side of your mouth about their corruption when it suits your purposes. Dismissed.
 
No more difficult than for you to admit that Jared has zero diplomatic qualifications or experience and yet he is jetting around on AF1 as "ambassador for peace in the ME" while obtaining sweetheart loan deals for his family business from the very foreign countries he is "negotiating" with. If that doesn't "reek" then neither does Hunters deal.

NYT: Kushner's business got $500M in loans after White House meetings - CNNPolitics

Jared Kushner's company under renewed scrutiny over Chinese and Israeli deals | US news | The Guardian

I don't support Kushner or anyone getting sweetheart deals out of public service.
 
Right, neither Trump nor any of his kids even take a salary but they are enriching themselves. Clownish.

A salary would be pennies for them. These are very rich people. It's a fact that Kushner's family were in deep financial trouble on a mortgage they owed at 666 Madison Ave. And it's a fact that a Canadian firm where Qatar was the biggest investor bailed them out. And it's a fact that Kushner was involved in ME policy which included a blockade of Qatar.

All those are facts. Which fact do you deny?

Is Qatar lying?

Qatar admits it unwittingly helped bail out Jared Kushner's skyscraper

Why don't you just admit to yourself that you don't care about corruption if you support the politician?
 
I don't support Kushner or anyone getting sweetheart deals out of public service.

But why is Kushner working in the WH? He has no foreign policy experience. He's only Trump's son-in-law.

Trump said he would clean up the swamp. But this is very swampy.
 
A salary would be pennies for them. These are very rich people. It's a fact that Kushner's family were in deep financial trouble on a mortgage they owed at 666 Madison Ave. And it's a fact that a Canadian firm where Qatar was the biggest investor bailed them out. And it's a fact that Kushner was involved in ME policy which included a blockade of Qatar.

All those are facts. Which fact do you deny?

Is Qatar lying?

Qatar admits it unwittingly helped bail out Jared Kushner's skyscraper

Why don't you just admit to yourself that you don't care about corruption if you support the politician?

I'll make sure not to vote for Kushner.
 
I don't support Kushner or anyone getting sweetheart deals out of public service.

So you admit that if Hunter is corrupt so is Jared and Ivanka and they are still benefiting from their corrupt positions that are solely based on nepotism? That arguably makes investigating them much more important.
 
I'll make sure not to vote for Kushner.

Or the Administration that is more guilty of nepotism than any other in recent memory one would hope. It would be terribly hypocritical otherwise don't you think? That is if you are truly against such nepotism or just when Democrats do it.
 
Right, neither Trump nor any of his kids even take a salary but they are enriching themselves. Clownish.

Ivanka and Jared continue to enrich themselves, and earned more the $83 MILLION during the first year of the Trump presidency. Just in the past year, Ivanka has sought, and been granted, 16 difference patents for her cosmetics products by the Chinese government. Estimates are that the value of those patents will be in the 10 figure (i.e. Billion $) range. She's earned another $4 MILLION PER YEAR (on average) just from her stake in the Trump D.C. hotel.

Jared's real estate company increased its net holdings by more than $50 MILLION, just in the first year (2017) of his father-in-law's presidency.

Jared and Ivanka are members of their, but yeah...you're right...she and Jared aren't "enriching" themselves because they "graciously" and "selflessly" declined the $180K salaries in the White House.:roll:

Only idiots and Trump acolytes believe that.
 
Ivanka and Jared continue to enrich themselves, and earned more the $83 MILLION during the first year of the Trump presidency. Just in the past year, Ivanka has sought, and been granted, 16 difference patents for her cosmetics products by the Chinese government. Estimates are that the value of those patents will be in the 10 figure (i.e. Billion $) range. She's earned another $4 MILLION PER YEAR (on average) just from her stake in the Trump D.C. hotel.

Jared's real estate company increased its net holdings by more than $50 MILLION, just in the first year (2017) of his father-in-law's presidency.

Jared and Ivanka are members of their, but yeah...you're right...she and Jared aren't "enriching" themselves because they "graciously" and "selflessly" declined the $180K salaries in the White House.:roll:

Only idiots and Trump acolytes believe that.

So, those patents have only been granted because Trump is POTUS I guess. Seeing as how Trump is making life miserable for the Chinese, your theory doesn't hold water.
 
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