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Biden is finished, and Warren has some issues.

Dans La Lune

Dans La Lune

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Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg, wbo has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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Generally accurate in my view.

If Biden falls away, it's unlikely that Buttigieg can step up to take his place; Yang is at least as likely to be the third wheel should there be one at all.
 
AOC Endorsement of Sanders will light a fire in the prog base, and older dems will vote blue no matter who. This is Sanders' race to win. With Biden's brain literally melting, and Warren being exposed as a "pragmatic" politician who blatantly will not tell the truth, I think she will begin to fade.
 
Biden was never a contender.

Joe’s sell by date long expired.
 
Trump said:
Biden was never a contender.

Joe’s sell by date long expired.
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I think we saw it dribble out of his cranium into his eye a few debates ago. The man is finished. In case the establishment hasn't figured it out, populism is back in style.
 
If Biden wins South Carolina - he is still on top.
 
haymarket said:
If Biden wins South Carolina - he is still on top.
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SC alone can't carry him.

Biden's steady decay hasn't really abated, and I can't see this debate doing him any favours.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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Warren gained from those who abandoned people saying they like her because she's more progressive than Biden, but for whatever reason they prefer her to Bernie (Hillary crazy bitter supporters who hate Bernie for no good reason, people who fear the word socialist without understanding Bernie's policies, etc.)

Bernie has started to do what he needs to, explaining why he's a better pick than Warren.
 
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Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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Sounds to me like you were prejudiced toward Bernie to begin with and have now gotten your hopes up.
 
Surrealistik said:
SC alone can't carry him.

Biden's steady decay hasn't really abated, and I can't see this debate doing him any favours.
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If he wins SC with African American support, it is a pretty good sign that he can repeat that pattern in other states and that would bode well for Biden.
 
The basic problem is that the demorat POTUS candidates are stuck with having to get the approval of the far left portion of their base on board (to win the DNC nomination) and then "evolve" back to center left to have any realistic chance of getting the required share of independents during the general election.

The idea that Buttigieg could become the "centrist" in place of Biden is wishful thinking since he lacks the ability to energize the black vote (Biden's ace in the hole to win in the SC primary), talks too much like an elite policy wonk (is not the least bit folksy?) and has no national government experience.

My bet is on Warren to prevail since she has the far left positions covered without ever having declared herself to be a socialist intent on taxing the hell out of the middle class. Once AOC endorses Sanders (later this week?) then more DNC primary voters will move from Sanders (and the rest of the present hangers on) to Warren. There is simply no way that the DNC is going to let an avowed socialist, backed by AOC, become their POTUS nominee.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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“.......but, but, Barack and I......”
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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No hope for Gabbard at all?
 
Dans La Lune said:
I am very biased towards Bernie, which is why I'm happy to see this path opening up for him.
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Do you think any Bernie voters will think twice about supporting Bernie because of his health?

If you really care about someone that just had heart attack would you want them in the most stressful job in the world?
 
Dans La Lune said:
She definitely has a chance.

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That's harsh. I find her well spoken, thoughtful, having her own mind instead of falling in lockstep with the expected mantra.
 
The endorsement of Bernie by 'the squad" mut have the more pragmatic Democrats shaking their head. The fear would be that it actually helps this kooky gadfly get the nomination and they realize that his chances of winning a general election are bout ...ohhh.....zero.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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Bernie won New Hampshire by a landslide in 2016 and now he’s polling 3rd there.
 
Lovebug said:
That's harsh. I find her well spoken, thoughtful, having her own mind instead of falling in lockstep with the expected mantra.
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I was a big Gabbard fan back in 2016. Then I scratched the surface and she's not what you think. In some matters she's very right-wing.
 
Lovebug said:
That's harsh. I find her well spoken, thoughtful, having her own mind instead of falling in lockstep with the expected mantra.
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Did you even watch the debate? She’s a ****ing moron, multiple times she showed she didn’t have a clue about what was going on in Syria and then Mayor Petey shut her down with a simple but succinct sentence
 
Crovax said:
Did you even watch the debate? She’s a ****ing moron, multiple times she showed she didn’t have a clue about what was going on in Syria and then Mayor Petey shut her down with a simple but succinct sentence
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Care to share sentence?
 
Dans La Lune said:
Biden's star is fading. He was being sustained entirely myths and fantasies that bore little resemblance to the man. He is also caught in a corruption scandal (not illegality). He stumbled through the debate. I am calling it now -- he's done. How could he possibly come back? He's running out of money because all his donors have maxed out. Done, done, done.

Warren had a decent enough performance last night, but there's a chink in her armor and everyone can see it. She can't throw her full weight behind Medicare For All. She refuses to articulate it in the same way that Bernie does. I would be nervous as a M4A supporter that Warren is all-in.

Prediction #1: Bernie catches up to Warren, and if it comes down to a battle of ideas, Bernie wins pretty handily. This is Bernie's lane. He owns it.

Prediction #2: With Biden on the mat, the corporate wing puts all their remaining eggs into Buttigieg's basket, who has gone full-steam centrist. Klobuchar and Kamala are non-factors.

It will be a three person race, with Bernie having a good shot at getting this. Bernie just sealed up the progressive endorsements. Warren is in the lead, but she's kinda cornered. She can't out-progressive Bernie, and she can't move to the right.

Andrew Yang is a wild card / long shot.
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I thought we covered this, whoever gets the nomination, be it a rock, a turnip or Joe running down the street in his underwear screaming. We intend to make that nominee president. Paybacks are hell aren’t they?


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