Breaking down the Dem Debate

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

All I can say is OmyGawd

Trump, Impeach, Trump

Not one of them said anything about the winning economy, all on Trump's watch.
All their arguments were logic fails; appeals to emotion.

There were no winners tonight.

Dans La Lune said:

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

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Drudge had Gabbard on top. Hmmm. Must have worn that white number again.

Ill have to wait for the talking heads to tell me Bloomberg is perched in a tree somewhere waiting for Biden to finally die.

Lieawatha ...done deal

Trump said:

Lieawatha ...done deal

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Versus Donnie scumbag, the narcissist adulterer? AKA General Bone Spurs.

With the exception of Tulsi, Bernie and Andy...

...a clown show put on by arsonists from an asylum for the criminally insane.

I mean...they all made some good points, but for some of them those points were vaguely presented and blindingly obvious safe points.

I'd say Warren, Sanders, and Yang made some gains, Biden perhaps held on but I'm not sure, and the rest are simply pretending to be able to tread water as they slowly sink under the surface.

I skipped this one. The stage was too crowded and CNN did horrible in their previous "debate."

Let's wait until the herd starts to thin a little. The criteria will be higher to qualify for November's debate.

Phys251 said:

I skipped this one. The stage was too crowded and CNN did horrible in their previous "debate."

Let's wait until the herd starts to thin a little. The criteria will be higher to qualify for November's debate.

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smart move

Phys251 said:

I skipped this one. The stage was too crowded and CNN did horrible in their previous "debate."

Let's wait until the herd starts to thin a little. The criteria will be higher to qualify for November's debate.

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The problem is the heard leaders are both grifters. BTW, Warren admitted that she is really Afro-American Indian Mexicanski, with a trace of Big Foot.

So.... where’s the beef?

The Mark said:

I mean...they all made some good points, but for some of them those points were vaguely presented and blindingly obvious safe points.

I'd say Warren, Sanders, and Yang made some gains, Biden perhaps held on but I'm not sure, and the rest are simply pretending to be able to tread water as they slowly sink under the surface.

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In a TV interview Yang said he wanted to give everyone a guaranteed income of 1,000 a month. He has my vote. We can all sit around and live off the government teat.

Dans La Lune said:

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

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I found out Cory Booker is a vegan.

trixare4kids said:

All I can say is OmyGawd

Trump, Impeach, Trump

Not one of them said anything about the winning economy, all on Trump's watch.
All their arguments were logic fails; appeals to emotion.

There were no winners tonight.

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The economy isn't actually 'winning', by conservative republican standards and measures.

Sad that you'd actually, seriously try and reference logic and poopoo appeals to emotion.

Phys251 said:

I skipped this one. The stage was too crowded and CNN did horrible in their previous "debate."

Let's wait until the herd starts to thin a little. The criteria will be higher to qualify for November's debate.

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1. With proportional allotments of delegates in all 58 primaries and caucuses, and enough candidates that will split the vote along the way, the convention in July will definitely be brokered. Once that debacle is over, the traitor-in-chief will have five full weeks to smear, define, and rat**** the DEM nominee before the GOP convention, with previous help from DEM candidates who attacked the nominee.

2. Individual One has chosen his opponent — Sanders — just as the Nixon camp chose their opponent — McGovern. This is Cohn/Stone/Segretti all over again. Biden is to Muskie, with the added caveat that foreign oppo was used, as #45 said he would. Next to be taken down will be Warren, with back-stabbing Democrats with a huge assist, which started tonight.

3. I see only one ticket that can take out trump. Coattail effects up or down are just too hard to qualify or quantify this early. DEM debates started too soon. There should have been two debates this week. Candidates determined by polls and donors is a great way to give away another election. So-called ‘non-trump’ voters are as fractured as ever.

Most of the Squad just endorsed Bernie. Notably AOC, the endorsement every progressive has been chasing -- including Warren.

Outlook said:

In a TV interview Yang said he wanted to give everyone a guaranteed income of 1,000 a month. He has my vote. We can all sit around and live off the government teat.

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You can live off of one thousand dollars a month, wow I am impressed.

Dans La Lune said:

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

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I disagree with your "Best", and it appears most others do too from what I've read this morning.

Pete Buttigeig had his best night yet.

It's just too damn bad he's gay. I think for so many in America today that's his largest hurdle to clear.


Sanders is too old. Yang is just a bit too kooky.
Biden needs to try to gracefully bow out of this sooner rather than later, but I fear he won't.

Those I'd absolutely cut from the next debate are easy to pick:

Harris
O'Rourke
Gabbard (although she's HOT)
Steyer (WTF is this guy anyway?)
Booker
Castro
Yang

If there was one more to cut it'd be Klobuchar, but only if the next debate had to be cut down to four.

Buttigeig definitely should make the next debate.

Dans La Lune said:

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

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I was quite impressed with Yang and he is absolutely correct on a lot of points and I would happily vote for him next year, however, I doubt he will get the nomination. He is simply too forward thinking for the American people and most people won't realize he was right for another 20 years.

Dragonfly said:

I disagree with your "Best", and it appears most others do too from what I've read this morning.

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Yes, the MSM is quite busy propping up the Buttigieg and Klobuchar. :lol:

I can only assess them from my perspective. They were terrible. They almost make Biden look good.

Pete Buttigieg had his best night yet.

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His voluntary M4A is a scam that would simply be a dumping ground for sick people.

Also, Buttigieg is polling at 0% with black people, in large part because of his actions as mayor. He doesn't get scrutiny because he isn't a top tier candidate.

Dans La Lune said:

Yes, the MSM is quite busy propping up the Buttigieg and Klobuchar. :lol:

I can only assess them from my perspective. They were terrible. They almost make Biden look good.



His voluntary M4A is a scam that would simply be a dumping ground for sick people.

Also, Buttigieg is polling at 0% with black people, in large part because of his actions as mayor. He doesn't get scrutiny because he isn't a top tier candidate.

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I will admit I couldn't stomach watching more than about maybe 40% of that debate last night.

Far too many people involved.

Once the field gets cut down to no more than five, I'll start paying more attention.

For the life of me though I just don't see what so many find appealing about Biden.
I have no clue why he's polling so strong.

trixare4kids said:

All I can say is OmyGawd

Trump, Impeach, Trump

Not one of them said anything about the winning economy, all on Trump's watch.
All their arguments were logic fails; appeals to emotion.

There were no winners tonight.

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Not one of them said anything about the winning economy, all on Trump's watch

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The economy was coming back by itself

You really believe the president is responsible?


So if we go in recession, Trump is now responsible right?(ROLLING EYES)

Dragonfly said:

I will admit I couldn't stomach watching more than about maybe 40% of that debate last night.

Far too many people involved.

Once the field gets cut down to no more than five, I'll start paying more attention.

For the life of me though I just don't see what so many find appealing about Biden.
I have no clue why he's polling so strong.

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he is familiar and safe for a lot of people. especially those who approved of Obama.

tacomancer said:

he is familiar and safe for a lot of people. especially those who approved of Obama.

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On paper, yes, I can see that.

In these debates though, he's just a stumbling, old, and confused mess at times. He does NOT inspire confidence when it comes to being POTUS.

Dragonfly said:

On paper, yes, I can see that.

In these debates though, he's just a stumbling, old, and confused mess at times. He does NOT inspire confidence when it comes to being POTUS.

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Agreed. He is showing that he is not the right person for the job.

Dans La Lune said:

The debate isn't over, and currently Biden is rambling about something. Anyways:

Top Three Dems I no longer wish to hear from:

1) Pete Buttigeig
2) Kamala Harris
3) Amy Klobuchar *UGGHHHHHHH* (Yeah, her moment is coming, Bill Maher)

People who did the best:

1) Warren (after a bumpy start)
2) Sanders
3) Yang

Tulsi Gabbard was a mess. She got spanked by Warren on foreign policy, and Warren's foreign policy isn't that great, and it's supposed to be the reason Tulsi is running.

Joe Biden faded into the background along with Tom Steyer, and just behind Castro.

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I largely agree with this. Biden was weak and stumbling (and seems slated to bleed even more support), and Sanders and Warren had the best showing. Sanders didn't get as much talking time as Warren but really made it count, while Warren had a consistently good performance, albeit lacking in home runs.

Buttigeig generally spent most of the debate oscillating between his usual empty platitudes and ranting about how 'divisive' plans better and bolder than his would be, while doing his best to disparage or dismiss them at the margins (and generally being soundly rebuked). He can't leave this primary soon enough.


However, I will say I was pleasantly surprised by Steyer, who did make very blunt, direct and excellent points, largely in agreement with Sanders, concerning the modern state of America as a de facto plutocracy ruled over by people like him, and his willingness to employ a variety of strong measures to combat historic economic injustice and the vastly disproportionate political power of billionaires and corporations. I certainly wouldn't vote for him over Sanders or Warren, but he is definitely on the right side of these issues, and I'm happy to see that he's not simply a magnate posing as a conservative/'moderate' Dem that concern trolls and pearl clutches over a left-ward shift as he primarily looks out for his own immediate interests as per Bloomberg. I'm impressed with him as an ostensible man of integrity who is willing to act in ways blatantly contrary to his own self-interest for the greater good of the country.