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Texas officer who fatally shot woman in her home arrested on murder charges

Drawdown said:
Good. Now I hope they sue the city into bankruptcy over that.
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Really? You want all citizens to be punished for what one reckless LEO did.

I also believe the LEO who shot the women should be charged with murder/man slaughter.
 
AGENT J said:
You must be int the wrong thread because that hilarious, unhinged, triggered melt down you just posted got nothing to do with this thread
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I was sparked to reply because of the comment "fry his ass."
 
mike2810 said:
Really? You want all citizens to be punished for what one reckless LEO did.

I also believe the LEO who shot the women should be charged with murder/man slaughter.
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Not all citizens. A few will be getting filthy rich out of the deal. Otherwise, yes. You are not going to change the shoot first culture by letting the city pawn this off as one bad cop.
 
marke said:
I was sparked to reply because of the comment "fry his ass."
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:shock::lamo
You know that make you posted meltdown even worse right? lol
 
marke said:
Before subjecting the officer to a lynching by an energized black and liberal lynch mob, we should allow this officer to be tried in court with all the evidence to be shown and allow honest unbiased juries to determine the guilt or innocence. That is the way it is supposed to be done in God Bless America.
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That woman had a right to be in her home playing video games with her nephew and not be gunned down from someone outside. In fact she had a right to grab a weapon when she saw flashlights shining through her windows at 230AM if in fact she was holding that gun. So yeah, God Bless America's citizens relying on police to protect them and not kill them.
 
Lisa said:
How are the neighbor the problem? He hadn't seen the lady, he was concerned about her safety so he called the cops to check on her. Does that give the cop the right to kill her by mistake and not be held accountable for his fatal decision because he seems to be afraid of his own shadow and the fact that he wears a badge?

What would you do it it was your daughter or mother that he killed? Would you give him a gold star and pat him on the back, after your mother/daughter's funeral?
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Just be glad he's not your neighbor.
 
Airyaman said:
Manslaughter is more in order for this one.
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No way. Once again, whatever the charge, I hope they add gross negligence and depraved indifference.

He broke nearly every rule and police policy for using a gun/lethal force.
 
Lisa said:
That works for me. They should be held to a higher standard than the general public because of their social position.
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And their training! How to react to situations, read them, de-escalate them, and having been exposed to stress and escalating/scary simulations out on the range.
 
Napoleon said:
Because the police are tools and, like any tool, can be dangerous if not used properly. The police are for managing criminals not for you to find out why your neighbor leaves their door open at night.
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They called the non-emergency number and that is one service the police provide. It's not up to neighbors to 'use' the cops...that's why the cops have training...to act appropriately in the normal course of their duties. Like welfare checks.
 
Lursa said:
Just be glad he's not your neighbor.
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I have redneck MAGAites to the south of me and my backyard are religious wackadoodles, one of which I am related to. The neighbor to the north of me is fine.
 
Drawdown said:
Not all citizens. A few will be getting filthy rich out of the deal. Otherwise, yes. You are not going to change the shoot first culture by letting the city pawn this off as one bad cop.
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The few getting rich will most likely be lawyers. :mrgreen:

If a town goes bankrupt it will basically affect all citizens of that town. Sorry, you can't see that.

imo, you believe the "shoot first" is a bigger problem than I believe it is.
 
mike2810 said:
The few getting rich will most likely be lawyers. :mrgreen:

If a town goes bankrupt it will basically affect all citizens of that town. Sorry, you can't see that.

imo, you believe the "shoot first" is a bigger problem than I believe it is.
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Maybe we should ask Botham Jean's and Atatiana Jefferson's families about that?
 
Lisa said:
I have redneck MAGAites to the south of me and my backyard are religious wackadoodles, one of which I am related to. The neighbor to the north of me is fine.
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sounds most annoying but safe
 
independentusa said:
I wonder what would have happened if the woman had shot the policeman thinking he was someone trying to break in. There is a castle law in Texas.
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I guess you are going to have to use your imagination for that 'what if". My guess is that she would have been no worse off.
 
TurtleDude said:
sounds most annoying but safe
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those descriptions dont sound safe to me lol It could always be worse but that doesnt sound safe to me at all.
 
TurtleDude said:
sounds most annoying but safe
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Its a very boring neighborhood. The street used to be brick but it was paved over about 15 years ago. There are trees lining the street and its safe. Dull but safe.
 
AGENT J said:
those descriptions dont sound safe to me lol It could always be worse but that doesn't sound safe to me at all.
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The MAGAites keep to themselves but the house drags down the neighborhood. The people on other s other side of the MAGAites are CPAs mixed race couple. The religious loons are polite and quiet but you know that they are judging you. They have a competition among themselves who can mow their yard the most times in a week. The next door neighbor and I speak to each other she is friendly. She is an accountant at a local fabricator.

There used to be a gun store that the militia wackjob owner ran out of a spare apartment. Now that it was closed the neighborhood is quiet. The people across the street like to smoke weed but they are harmless. There is a former minister on the corner and on the other corner are the assistant fire chief and his son who is an EMT on the fire dept. They are thoughtful and don't use their sirens when there is a run after 10pm.

The hospital is about 1/4 mile away and then the life flight is needed the helicopter make my house shake because it comes in so low to their helipad.
 
Napoleon said:
Let us know when the neighbor is arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. In the interim, I hope the police stop taking non-emergency busybody calls nationwide.
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That isn't going to happen the neighbor did nothing wrong.
 
Based on what we know the cop is going down. He pretty much violated every procedure and law out there.
his afraid for his life defense isn't going to work even though that is what it is going to be.

max will be a murder charge.
 
AGENT J said:
:shock::lamo
You know that make you posted meltdown even worse right? lol
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No, it didn't. I am opposed to the rush to judgment by people who want to think the worse and who fan the flames of hatred and bigotry by condemning the accused before the evidence is even all out. That is why we have courts, juries and judges, because lynching is wrong.

Adam Schitff has had a history of declaring Trump guilty before finding any evidence of guilt, and then having to backtrack once he is proven wrong. Why are Americans like that and why are Americans allowing him to be like that?

If this police officer is guilty then I hope justice will be done. Jumping to conclusions, prejudging and condemning is not the proper path to justice.
 
SkyFox76 said:
That woman had a right to be in her home playing video games with her nephew and not be gunned down from someone outside. In fact she had a right to grab a weapon when she saw flashlights shining through her windows at 230AM if in fact she was holding that gun. So yeah, God Bless America's citizens relying on police to protect them and not kill them.
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This is the first time I heard that the woman picked up a gun. You see how limited facts being bandied about can twist the story in wrong ways. If the woman picked up a gun, then did the officer think he was in danger? If the officer thought he was in danger then was he justified to respond with deadly force?

The reason we try cases in court is because trying them on TV with biased judges and juries is not legal, not proper, and not civilized. Let the case be judged in court where it is supposed to be. All the facts will come out and the judge and jury will have to sort it out according to their best judgment.
 
Lisa said:
How can the called have any fault? He was concerned for the welfare of a neighbor. That is not a crime. Is it so difficult for the cop to knock on a door and ascertain that the person inside is alive and in reasonable health?
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He's trolling to excuse the actions of coward cops. Don't mind him if he ****s himself all over the thread.
 
SkyFox76 said:
A person could be concerned that a parent (in another state) isn't answering their phone, or an elderly neighbor who you see every day isn't out. So you knock on their door, they don't answer, then what? Just go home and turn on the TV? Or would you call authorities to come check that person?
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A person calling the authorities because an elderly parent living 2000 miles away hasn’t answered the phone in a couple of days is a radically different situation than the guy next door calling without even bothering to check himself. And even in this case I’d make it a point to know who my parents friends are and call them before calling the authorities.

Assuming I know the person should be home - and I don’t know about you but I don’t keep track of my neighbors comings and goings - if the door’s open and they don’t answer a knock or a call I probably go in.

If the door is locked and there’s 3 days worth of mail in the mailbox and I know they’re not on vacation and they don’t answer a knock or a phone call I’d likely call the police/EMS/FD. But at this point we’re again in a radically different situation than the one in the OP.

At least where I live house burglaries are rare and typically happen in empty houses. It’s MUCH more likely that if someone doesn’t answer when you know they’re home it’s either because they don’t want to be bothered or because they’ve had an accident.

Calling the police as a first resort seems stupid to me.
 
Lisa said:
How can the called have any fault? He was concerned for the welfare of a neighbor. That is not a crime. Is it so difficult for the cop to knock on a door and ascertain that the person inside is alive and in reasonable health?
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He’s not talking about the case here but one where a caller purposefully placed a call to the police and lied about the circumstances. The cops went to scene believing there was a threat based on the caller’s fabrication when there wasn’t one and someone was killed.
 
Master Debator said:
He's trolling to excuse the actions of coward cops. Don't mind him if he ****s himself all over the thread.
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If you read his post you’d note that he isn’t talking about this situation but another one.
 
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