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    Irrelevant. Turkey invaded Syria. It is up to Syria to defend their own borders. And, Syria is defending their own borders. This isn't rocket science.
    They have never defended their own borders under Assad and they are not now. They are simply providing an anvil for Turkey to hammer the Kurds against. Russian forces moving in just to make sure the "right people" get killed and to put up the same sort of blocking force against US forces that we were providing vs Turkish forces before Trump sent them to the rear.

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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    They have never defended their own borders under Assad and they are not now. They are simply providing an anvil for Turkey to hammer the Kurds against. Russian forces moving in just to make sure the "right people" get killed and to put up the same sort of blocking force against US forces that we were providing vs Turkish forces before Trump sent them to the rear.
    We were there to fight ISIS and won. No need to be there anymore. If ISIS makes a comeback in that area you can come back later to say, "I told you so".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    We were there to fight ISIS and won. No need to be there anymore. If ISIS makes a comeback in that area you can come back later to say, "I told you so".
    GREAT ANSWER! That one should go into the DP Forum hall of shame.

    And for the record, what does your response have to do with Assad "defending his borders"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Irrelevant. Turkey invaded Syria. It is up to Syria to defend their own borders. And, Syria is defending their own borders. This isn't rocket science.


    "Turkey invaded Syria. It is up to Syria to defend their own borders."

    Iran invades Saudi Arabia. It is up to SA to defend their own borders."

    "And, Syria is defending their own borders."

    Really? What confrontation can you cite?

    "This isn't rocket science."

    Yet it was all decided by a very stable genius of great and unmatched wisdom. Or, do you disagree that this was not all Trump's decision, alone? Do you think your President is a "very stable genius" of "great and unmatched wisdom" as He says?

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    Funny how society has done a complete 180 since Hillary lost in 2016. Now it's the leftists who want to keep troops in foreign countries they never heard of have jackbooted Antifa thugs terrorising people in the streets.

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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    "Turkey invaded Syria. It is up to Syria to defend their own borders."

    Iran invades Saudi Arabia. It is up to SA to defend their own borders."

    "And, Syria is defending their own borders."

    Really? What confrontation can you cite?

    "This isn't rocket science."

    Yet it was all decided by a very stable genius of great and unmatched wisdom. Or, do you disagree that this was not all Trump's decision, alone? Do you think your President is a "very stable genius" of "great and unmatched wisdom" as He says?
    Syria has not asked for our help in defending their borders. You know darn well if Iran were to invade SA that SA would ask for US help.

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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    There is no country called the Kurds. Turkey invaded Syria. It is up to Syria to defend it's own territory. That's not our job. Let Syria deal with it. Trump was right, yet again. Funny how the left want to get us out of endless wars, unless it is Trump, then endless wars are fine.
    Kurds had a pretty good chance of carving out a homeland in Syria. We can argue that point all day, but now that we've pulled out, there is no hope of that.


    I get your point about "endless wars", but the Kurds did most of the fighting for us against ISIS, and turning our backs against when have a detrimental effect on America's foreign policy for many years to come. One of the generals, I forgot who it was, pointed out that the number of soldiers in Syria didn't actually cost us that much, and pulling out was penny wise and pound foolish.
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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    Kurds had a pretty good chance of carving out a homeland in Syria. We can argue that point all day, but now that we've pulled out, there is no hope of that.


    I get your point about "endless wars", but the Kurds did most of the fighting for us against ISIS, and turning our backs against when have a detrimental effect on America's foreign policy for many years to come. One of the generals, I forgot who it was, pointed out that the number of soldiers in Syria didn't actually cost us that much, and pulling out was penny wise and pound foolish.
    The closest we have on Kurdish loses is north of 11,000 dead. We have a more accurate figure for US deaths in Syria attriting the Caliphate. 4 US dead attriting the Caliphate.

    Notice I do not term this effort "defeating ISIS". We have NOT defeated ISIS. We have simply attrited the Caliphate, a great achievement on the road to defeating ISIS but not the defeat of ISIS. Frankly I always thought the Caliphate was the worst idea ISIS ever had. All it did was paint a target on their backs.

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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Syria has not asked for our help in defending their borders. You know darn well if Iran were to invade SA that SA would ask for US help.


    You darn well know that Turkey is not invading Syria. They're invading "Kurdistan". Slaughtering man, woman and child. Soldier and civilian. Syria's soldiers are not even fighting the Turks. We told the Kurds we would protect them. We gave them our word. We went back on our word to them. Everybody who understands that one must stand by their own word knows that. Especially "the generals" (the ones Trump know more than) that gave their word to the Kurd commanders. It's bad enough that Bush2 made the first time in American history unprovoked first-strike attack on another nation when invading Iraq. But back-stabbing a faithful ally that donated their blood to an American cause of fighting the ISIS terrorist who exist to destroy America?

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    Re: Trump, the great betrayer

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    You darn well know that Turkey is not invading Syria. They're invading "Kurdistan". Slaughtering man, woman and child. Soldier and civilian. Syria's soldiers are not even fighting the Turks. We told the Kurds we would protect them. We gave them our word. We went back on our word to them. Everybody who understands that one must stand by their own word knows that. Especially "the generals" (the ones Trump know more than) that gave their word to the Kurd commanders. It's bad enough that Bush2 made the first time in American history unprovoked first-strike attack on another nation when invading Iraq. But back-stabbing a faithful ally that donated their blood to an American cause of fighting the ISIS terrorist who exist to destroy America?
    Turkey is invading Syrian territory. There is no country called "Kurds".

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