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U.S. military officers who fought in Syria say they are devastated and ashamed

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[h=2]U.S. military officers who fought in Syria say they are devastated and ashamed by Trump’s decision to abandon Kurdish-led forces.[/h]On Dec. 20, 2018, the day after U.S. President Donald Trump abruptly announced via Twitter that the United States would withdraw all U.S. forces from Syria, a group of U.S. soldiers set out on a routine patrol through Manbij, a Kurdish-held town in northern Syria.

A member of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) approached the American troops, according to a U.S. Army officer on patrol that day, who spoke to Foreign Policy on the condition of anonymity. The man broke down in tears, thanking the U.S. service members for their support.

“He took off his unit patch and gave it to me. It was the most emotional moment I’ve ever experienced,” said the officer, who fought alongside the SDF in the yearslong battle to defeat the Islamic State and is one of many retired and current service members who say they are devastated by Trump’s latest decision to withdraw troops from the border, paving the way for Turkey to launch a major attack on northeastern Syria.

“It is unacceptable to turn our back on them to a tyrant like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan, who views all Kurds as terrorists,” the retired officer said. “There will be a whole generation of U.S. military that will never forget this betrayal nor stop apologizing for it.”
 
HumblePi said:
[h=2]U.S. military officers who fought in Syria say they are devastated and ashamed by Trump’s decision to abandon Kurdish-led forces.[/h]On Dec. 20, 2018, the day after U.S. President Donald Trump abruptly announced via Twitter that the United States would withdraw all U.S. forces from Syria, a group of U.S. soldiers set out on a routine patrol through Manbij, a Kurdish-held town in northern Syria.

A member of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) approached the American troops, according to a U.S. Army officer on patrol that day, who spoke to Foreign Policy on the condition of anonymity. The man broke down in tears, thanking the U.S. service members for their support.

“He took off his unit patch and gave it to me. It was the most emotional moment I’ve ever experienced,” said the officer, who fought alongside the SDF in the yearslong battle to defeat the Islamic State and is one of many retired and current service members who say they are devastated by Trump’s latest decision to withdraw troops from the border, paving the way for Turkey to launch a major attack on northeastern Syria.

“It is unacceptable to turn our back on them to a tyrant like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan, who views all Kurds as terrorists,” the retired officer said. “There will be a whole generation of U.S. military that will never forget this betrayal nor stop apologizing for it.”
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They have to be pulled out. They're needed in Saudi Arabia to protect the Kingdom of Saud.
 
That's right kids, if you can't win them with facts. Just tell them a sob story and call them **** if they don't agree with you.
 
Oborosen said:
That's right kids, if you can't win them with facts. Just tell them a sob story and call them **** if they don't agree with you.
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or you can just stay in the dark by lodging your head up a giant orange ass.
 
SCrider said:
or you can just stay in the dark by lodging your head up a giant orange ass.
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Just pointing out how this isn't a one sided story.
Because if all the left has is to tell a sob story and to spit in the faces of people who don't agree with them. Then I don't have the slightest amount of time to spare for their faked sense of morality.

Were it Obama, or Hillary that made this decision. They'd be praising the move and screaming **** the Kurds, or some other inane response like that.

I'd still be sitting here saying that the decision had to be made either way.
 
Oborosen said:
Just pointing out how this isn't a one sided story.
Because if all the left has is to tell a sob story and to spit in the faces of people who don't agree with them. Then I don't have the slightest amount of time to spare for their faked sense of morality.

Were it Obama, or Hillary that made this decision. They'd be praising the move and screaming **** the Kurds, or some other inane response like that.

I'd still be sitting here saying that the decision had to be made either way.
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All the decades of foreign wars and interventions and suddenly THIS is the turning point? The one time we have the chance to do something actually worthwhile, to protect a national identity from destruction, and we pass it up in order to please Turkey, perpetrators of the Armenian genocide, and what looks like another to come? Where's the justice in this policy.
 
Irredentist said:
All the decades of foreign wars and interventions and suddenly THIS is the turning point? The one time we have the chance to do something actually worthwhile, to protect a national identity from destruction, and we pass it up in order to please Turkey, perpetrators of the Armenian genocide, and what looks like another to come? Where's the justice in this policy.
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Can’t wait to hear Dems in debate attack Trump for removing troops from Syria...up is down....anti Trump 24/7/365
 
Oborosen said:
That's right kids, if you can't win them with facts. Just tell them a sob story and call them **** if they don't agree with you.
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That's right kids, this is the age of Trump. Integrity, and responsibility are meaningless in America.

It has become a country dominated by liars and conmen, one only need to look at not only who they chose for their leader, but the fact that they support and defend every lie, and every con.

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

$25 million settlement finalized in Trump University lawsuit - CNNPolitics

Trump has made over 12,000 lies or misleading statements


It's why the USA is the laughing stock of the world.

Diplomats Stunned by Trump’s Feud With Denmark Over Greenland | Vanity Fair
“HE HAS MADE US A LAUGHING STOCK”: DIPLOMATS STUNNED BY TRUMP’S FEUD WITH DENMARK
 
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Trump said:
Can’t wait to hear Dems in debate attack Trump for removing troops from Syria...up is down....anti Trump 24/7/365
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He didn't remove troops from Syria, he just cleared the way for a Turkish attack on the Kurds. People who are supposed to be our Allies.
 
Irredentist said:
All the decades of foreign wars and interventions and suddenly THIS is the turning point? The one time we have the chance to do something actually worthwhile, to protect a national identity from destruction, and we pass it up in order to please Turkey, perpetrators of the Armenian genocide, and what looks like another to come? Where's the justice in this policy.
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It's better than just letting our people stay there. With no clear goals, or even the means to achieve them.
 
Who knew the Democrats loved war so very, very much...

:shrug:
 
Who knew Republicans loved Putin, Assad and Erdogan so much. It's become quite emotional indeed.

Kim Jong Un has become a Republican favorite too writing his love letters to Trump who swoons over 'em. Stole a kiss in Singapore the two of 'em did.

It's Conservatives, Libertarian Rightists and Republicans who've switched sides.

It's this one by which the American allies the Kurds get slain by the strongman tyrant Erdogan that's mobilized our military's sentiment against Trump. The Putin-Trump Rowers who never wore the uniform haven't any clue of the severity of this betrayal by Trump. We know well Trump is the guy who says he can't remember which foot had the pretend bone spurs. His bonehead supporters love it.
 
Trump said:
Can’t wait to hear Dems in debate attack Trump for removing troops from Syria...up is down....anti Trump 24/7/365
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Who are you going to blame when ISIL returns to their former power because the Kurds aren't holding them in check?
 
Tangmo said:
Who knew Republicans loved Putin, Assad and Erdogan so much. It's become quite emotional indeed.

Kim Jong Un has become a Republican favorite too writing his love letters to Trump who swoons over 'em. Stole a kiss in Singapore the two of 'em did.

It's Conservatives, Libertarian Rightists and Republicans who've switched sides.

It's this one by which the American allies the Kurds get slain by the strongman tyrant Erdogan that's mobilized our military's sentiment against Trump. The Putin-Trump Rowers who never wore the uniform haven't any clue of the severity of this betrayal by Trump. We know well Trump is the guy who says he can't remember which foot had the pretend bone spurs. His bonehead supporters love it.
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Can you just once, refrain from letting your ignorance shine so brightly as this?
 
Trump said:
Can’t wait to hear Dems in debate attack Trump for removing troops from Syria...up is down....anti Trump 24/7/365
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That’s right. This guy literally can’t do anything right. I was ready to give him a chance right after the election. The sixty million Americans who voted for him and were so passionate about him couldn’t be ALL wrong about him, could they? Maybe he would have some fresh new insights or do SOME things right.

No he couldn’t.
 
Oborosen said:
Can you just once, refrain from letting your ignorance shine so brightly as this?
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By doing what? Chasing after Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate for another 6 years straight? Or signing up for Trump U because it’s better than Harvard?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Who knew the Democrats loved war so very, very much...

:shrug:
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Preventing the genocide of an ally isn't being a warmonger, lieutenant strawman.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Who knew the Democrats loved war so very, very much...

:shrug:
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I keep hearing how this is hypocritical because there was no outrage by Democrats at Obama for pulling out of Iraq. But there is absolutely no equivalence. When Obama pulled out of Iraq, the place was reasonably stable. No one thought they were being abandoned by us.

This abandonment of the Kurds, who fought alongside and shed so much blood for us over there, when we KNEW they were going to get eaten alive if we just abandoned them, was a betrayal of a loyal ally that will be remembered by any potential future ally for decades to come, if ever. This was a truly egregious betrayal.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Who knew the Democrats loved war so very, very much...

:shrug:
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It was the Dems who got the country into Vietnam too, claiming we needed to protect our "allies" as well...
 
PoS said:
It was the Dems who got the country into Vietnam too, claiming we needed to protect our "allies" as well...
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Yes! That’s why now we should never care about any loyalty to any allies! (Sarcasm)
 
Oborosen said:
~ Were it Obama, or Hillary that made this decision ~
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1) You realise you actually confess in that statement that Trump has betrayed US battlefield allies?

2) Give me an example of where Obama made anything like this decision and betrayed US battlefield allies?

3) Why now is the US beginning to backtrack and threaten Erdogan?
 
ataraxia said:
Yes! That’s why now we should never care about any loyalty to any allies! (Sarcasm)
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Yes, our allies, the Kurds- who engage in terrorism. If you think theyre our friends, then I sure would like to know who you consider as enemies.
 
PoS said:
It was the Dems who got the country into Vietnam too, claiming we needed to protect our "allies" as well...
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It was far more complicated than that.

We were well into Vietnam or French Indochina as it was called during WW2 as a way to subvert the Japanese and then we stayed there to support the french colonial interests during the 1950s. When the French pulled out after the rout at Dien Bein Phu we stayed and then we slowly ramped up our military presence. Kennedy tried to get us out but Johnson ramped it up after Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.
 
PoS said:
Yes, our allies, the Kurds- who engage in terrorism. If you think theyre our friends, then I sure would like to know who you consider as enemies.
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The Kurds fought alongside us during Bush's nightmare in Iraq and they were pivotal in subduing ISIL. We cannot betray them now after what they did for us. We cannot allow a minority to be wiped out in genocide just so Trump can please Erdogan and Putin.
 
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