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The new Teflon Don?

HumblePi said:
I live in the NY area and knew all about Gotti and Sammy 'the bull' Gravano. John Gotti played his dirty games on a much smaller scale. Donald Trump will definitely go down in infamy and outlast John Gotti's criminal reputation.

Guess who got the conviction on Gotti? It was Robert Mueller who got him sent to prison. He was with the FBI at the SDNY office at that time. Even the Gambino crime family wasn't safe from Robert Mueller.
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Yeup, and Gotti ended up in prison, .....don't feed my fantasies.....
 
[video]https://www.mrctv.org/videos/medias-35-straight-months-impeachment-obsession-predate-trump-presidency[/video]

Perhaps the reason he has seemed like he is 'teflon' is because the idiots in the media and on the left have been screeching impeachment nonstop over literally nothing since before he was even elected. Its not hard to avoid 'conviction' of the ridiculously fabricated **** when it is all ridiculously fabricated ****, especially when even the idiots on the left pressing it KNOW it is all ridiculously fabricated **** and are spreading it anyway. Then you have the idiot rats in congress wadling up to the microphone calling to 'peach fotty five'...idiots that have gone so far as to claim they dont need a reason to impeach. Sadly...they represent the idiot left well.
 
noonereal said:
In the late 80's, early 90's we had a guy called John Gotti who everyone on the planet knew was a criminal but the state could never convict him.

He was given the nick name of the Teflon Don.

Today we have the same situation. A man called Donald Trump who everyone on the planet knows is a criminal but cannot seem to be impeached.

Will the new Teflon Don go down as the original Teflon Don eventually did?

Still a long shot that he would be convicted of his crimes by the senate but it is becoming more and more possible by the day.
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As little respect as I have had for DonDon all these years, I am beginning to think he could not carry John Gotti's jock strop.

Look who Trump is running with. He is running with Rudy and who is Rudy running with! Well there is Dmetri Firtash, Putin ally and Ukrainian billionaire currently under arrest in Austria and trying to avoid extradition back to the US, much involved in the Manifort scheme to economically take over Ukraine. Rudy has been getting all sorts of Biden BS from Firtash, even admits to it. Rudy has also been working with Manafort now in prison. Firtash just added Digenova and his wife to his legal team in the effort to avoid extradition. Are there any sleazier attorneys in this world than Digenova and his wife...well maybe Rudy.

There is Parnas and Fruman, prominently featured in a photo with Trump, Pence, and Rudy just arrested today trying to escape the country and into the Ukraine dirt scheme run by DonDon up to their armpits.

So we have Parnas, Fruman, Firtash and Manafort three now in jail and one in prison all feeding Rudy dirt from Ukraine...all garbage by the way.....all under orders from DonDon.

Hmmmm......I wonder how long it will be before Rudy is in jail. How long for DonDon. Donny Boy REALLY stepped in with this Ukraine thing. If he had not made that phone call MAYBE he could just throw Rudy under the bus and gotten away with it.

This is DonDon's real problem much discussed by me and others in these pages. DonDon simply loves risk. He can't help himself. Its one of his many malignant pathologies. Give DonDon enough rope and he will hang himself. What do you think the American voting public will think when they get a whiff of the crowd DonDon has been running with.

Do you think there will be much credence given to Barr's many overseas journeys trying to do exactly what Rudy is doing? Do we really think these are good uses of the taxpayer's money? Will ANYBODY think they are good uses of the taxpayer's money.
 
HumblePi said:
I live in the NY area and knew all about Gotti and Sammy 'the bull' Gravano. John Gotti played his dirty games on a much smaller scale. Donald Trump will definitely go down in infamy and outlast John Gotti's criminal reputation.

Guess who got the conviction on Gotti? It was Robert Mueller who got him sent to prison. He was with the FBI at the SDNY office at that time. Even the Gambino crime family wasn't safe from Robert Mueller.
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Any one who lived in NYC in the 70's, 80's and 90's knew trump was a conman but the flyover country rubes didn't and trump really conned them
 
Marxistleninist said:
Any one who lived in NYC in the 70's, 80's and 90's knew trump was a conman but the flyover country rubes didn't and trump really conned them
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I tried my best to warn them but I have family members and neighbors in my blue state that are rabid supporters. I haven't talked to any of them about what's going on this past week. I figure I'll wait to bring it up after they've been given more information if they ever turn Fox News off and get to some legitimate news.
 
noonereal said:
In the late 80's, early 90's we had a guy called John Gotti who everyone on the planet knew was a criminal but the state could never convict him.

He was given the nick name of the Teflon Don.

Today we have the same situation. A man called Donald Trump who everyone on the planet knows is a criminal but cannot seem to be impeached.

Will the new Teflon Don go down as the original Teflon Don eventually did?

Still a long shot that he would be convicted of his crimes by the senate but it is becoming more and more possible by the day.
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I still find it unlikely that he'll be removed from office by the Senate. GOP Senators are self-serving cowards.

I do find that it is rather likely that if he's still alive (the man is a walking time bomb for a stroke or a heart attack with all his rage, his obesity, and his junk eating, and he's not young), he'll be prosecuted once he is out of the presidential office, especially if the next president is a Democrat who will be unwilling to extend a presidential pardon to him. In any case, even if he is pardoned by his successor, there's still the matter of New York State prosecution, which is not affected by federal presidential pardons.

Trump knows it, which is why he will try all he can to stay in power, like a drowning man grabbing a ring buoy.
 
jnug said:
As little respect as I have had for DonDon all these years, I am beginning to think he could not carry John Gotti's jock strop.

Look who Trump is running with. He is running with Rudy and who is Rudy running with! Well there is Dmetri Firtash, Putin ally and Ukrainian billionaire currently under arrest in Austria and trying to avoid extradition back to the US, much involved in the Manifort scheme to economically take over Ukraine. Rudy has been getting all sorts of Biden BS from Firtash, even admits to it. Rudy has also been working with Manafort now in prison. Firtash just added Digenova and his wife to his legal team in the effort to avoid extradition. Are there any sleazier attorneys in this world than Digenova and his wife...well maybe Rudy.

There is Parnas and Fruman, prominently featured in a photo with Trump, Pence, and Rudy just arrested today trying to escape the country and into the Ukraine dirt scheme run by DonDon up to their armpits.

So we have Parnas, Fruman, Firtash and Manafort three now in jail and one in prison all feeding Rudy dirt from Ukraine...all garbage by the way.....all under orders from DonDon.

Hmmmm......I wonder how long it will be before Rudy is in jail. How long for DonDon. Donny Boy REALLY stepped in with this Ukraine thing. If he had not made that phone call MAYBE he could just throw Rudy under the bus and gotten away with it.

This is DonDon's real problem much discussed by me and others in these pages. DonDon simply loves risk. He can't help himself. Its one of his many malignant pathologies. Give DonDon enough rope and he will hang himself. What do you think the American voting public will think when they get a whiff of the crowd DonDon has been running with.

Do you think there will be much credence given to Barr's many overseas journeys trying to do exactly what Rudy is doing? Do we really think these are good uses of the taxpayer's money? Will ANYBODY think they are good uses of the taxpayer's money.
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Funny thing about Rudy is that he had only a 2% disapproval rate when he stepped down as NYC mayor. I am proud to say, I was part of that "wise" 2% at the time.
 
HumblePi said:
I tried my best to warn them but I have family members and neighbors in my blue state that are rabid supporters. I haven't talked to any of them about what's going on this past week. I figure I'll wait to bring it up after they've been given more information if they ever turn Fox News off and get to some legitimate news.
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Actually Fox News hasn't been that generous to Trump. They're fed up with Trump, and they are starting to show his shortcomings.
 
VanceMack said:
[video]https://www.mrctv.org/videos/medias-35-straight-months-impeachment-obsession-predate-trump-presidency[/video]

Perhaps the reason he has seemed like he is 'teflon' is because the idiots in the media and on the left have been screeching impeachment nonstop over literally nothing since before he was even elected. Its not hard to avoid 'conviction' of the ridiculously fabricated **** when it is all ridiculously fabricated ****, especially when even the idiots on the left pressing it KNOW it is all ridiculously fabricated **** and are spreading it anyway. Then you have the idiot rats in congress wadling up to the microphone calling to 'peach fotty five'...idiots that have gone so far as to claim they dont need a reason to impeach. Sadly...they represent the idiot left well.
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Actually they don't need a reason to impeach. Sadly, it's a political process rather than a legal one. Theoretically, Congress can remove Trump from office simply for not liking the orange color of his skin. Yes, the rules require "high crimes and misdemeanors" but it is entirely up to Congress to define said high crimes and misdemeanors, and if they were to declare that having orange skin was a high crime and a misdemeanor, there is NO remedy for it, in the Constitution. It's entirely Congress' prerogative.

So, whoever said that, is actually NOT an idiot.

This said, I think there are BOTH legal and political compelling reasons to impeach Trump and remove him from office.

Will Congress do it? Most likely, they won't. But they could, if they wanted to.
 
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noonereal said:
Funny thing about Rudy is that he had only a 2% disapproval rate when he stepped down as NYC mayor. I am proud to say, I was part of that "wise" 2% at the time.
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Reading his bio on Wiki, there's one part especially that's very telling, it's this:

"Giuliani was credited with bringing the "perp walk", parading of suspects in front of the previously alerted media, into common use as a prosecutorial tool. After Giuliani "patented the perp walk", the tool was used by increasing numbers of prosecutors nationwide.

Giuliani's critics claimed that he arranged for people to be arrested, then dropped charges for lack of evidence on high-profile cases rather than going to trial. In a few cases, his arrests of alleged white-collar criminals at their workplaces with charges later dropped or lessened, sparked controversy, and damaged the reputations of the alleged "perps"

That right there tells a lot about Giuliani. He's a narcissistic with a grandiose self-image. He ruined a lot of people's lives to create controversy for himself.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Actually they don't need a reason to impeach. Sadly, it's a political process rather than a legal one. Theoretically, Congress can remove Trump from office simply for not liking the orange color of his skin. Yes, the rules require "high crimes and misdemeanors" but it is entirely up to Congress to define said high crimes and misdemeanors, and if they were to declare that having orange skin was a high crime and a misdemeanor, there is NO remedy for it, in the Constitution. It's entirely Congress' prerogative.

So, whoever said that, is actually NOT an idiot.

This said, I think there are BOTH legal and political compelling reasons to impeach Trump and remove him from office.

Will Congress do it? Most likely, they won't. But they could, if they wanted to.
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That is everything wrong with what is going on today.

Trump is a douchebag, but since before he took office he was negotiating to bring back manufacturing jobs. Democrats did everything they could to **** on the process. Trump has done everything he could to try to keep the markets growing. Democrats are doing everything they can to **** on the process. Trump has worked to keep the forward momentum with jobs growth and as a result we have record low unemployment rates in the black American, Latino and women work force...and democrats are doing everything they can to **** on the process. For many decades our government has allowed and in fact encouraged unfair trade practices. Trump has tried to correct those imbalances and democrats have done everything they can to **** on the process. Trump has done the same thing Obama did in trying to secure our borders...in fact their words are almost identical. Democrats have spent the entire time ****ting on the process.

But...orange man bad.

Trump is a douchebag. Democrats are far worse.
 
noonereal said:
I nearly peed myself when I read this.... then it dawned on me, you may really believe this and you are allowed to vote!

This country is toast.

Thanks to all Trumpets.
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This entire corrupt era has been caused by Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. They are great con men.
 
Marxistleninist said:
Any one who lived in NYC in the 70's, 80's and 90's knew trump was a conman but the flyover country rubes didn't and trump really conned them
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The New York City con man being supported by Southern and/or Southern Christian Men is the most comical part of this entire era.
 
Casca XV said:
I'm sure "Peeing yourself" is a regular common occurrence. Probably while standing on a wooden crate on a street corner shouting at people about the Wonders of Leftist Collective Ideology.

I'm also sure that if Leftist like you ever gain total power, I wont be allowed to vote. I will either be in a reeducation camp fighting starvation or a mass grave.

Regarding political and personal slander, President Trump my be the greatest victim in US history.

Fortunately this is still a nation where being innocent and fighting back can win battles.

With every battle he wins I am comforted knowing my personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Right are a little more secure and I am further away from that reeducation camp or mass grave.
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:laughat:
 
HumblePi said:
Reading his bio on Wiki, there's one part especially that's very telling, it's this:

"Giuliani was credited with bringing the "perp walk", parading of suspects in front of the previously alerted media, into common use as a prosecutorial tool. After Giuliani "patented the perp walk", the tool was used by increasing numbers of prosecutors nationwide.

Giuliani's critics claimed that he arranged for people to be arrested, then dropped charges for lack of evidence on high-profile cases rather than going to trial. In a few cases, his arrests of alleged white-collar criminals at their workplaces with charges later dropped or lessened, sparked controversy, and damaged the reputations of the alleged "perps"

That right there tells a lot about Giuliani. He's a narcissistic with a grandiose self-image. He ruined a lot of people's lives to create controversy for himself.
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It is what he did to the homeless that will guarantee him damnation to hell.
 
noonereal said:
In the late 80's, early 90's we had a guy called John Gotti who everyone on the planet knew was a criminal but the state could never convict him.

He was given the nick name of the Teflon Don.

Today we have the same situation. A man called Donald Trump who everyone on the planet knows is a criminal but cannot seem to be impeached.

Will the new Teflon Don go down as the original Teflon Don eventually did?

Still a long shot that he would be convicted of his crimes by the senate but it is becoming more and more possible by the day.
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I think the donald would rather be known as the dapper don.
 
noonereal said:
In the late 80's, early 90's we had a guy called John Gotti who everyone on the planet knew was a criminal but the state could never convict him.

He was given the nick name of the Teflon Don.

Today we have the same situation. A man called Donald Trump who everyone on the planet knows is a criminal but cannot seem to be impeached.

Will the new Teflon Don go down as the original Teflon Don eventually did?

Still a long shot that he would be convicted of his crimes by the senate but it is becoming more and more possible by the day.
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Democrats had better hope and pray they bring Teflon Don down before he brings down Teflon Hillary, Teflon Comey, Teflon Clapper, Teflon Weissman, Teflon Strzok, Teflon MCCabe, Teflon Holder, Teflon Lynch and dozens of others.
 
The Right is desperately scrambling to get Pelosi to move forward now. Why? Because Trumpworld, crumbles more each day. There seems no end to it and why would we expect there to be an end to it. The horror of a truly corrupt President, one that makes the corruption of all other Chief Executives including Nixon pale in comparison while Trumpkin's malignant pathologies come into full view. The Right trying to cloak this as "Palace Intrigue" is laughable.

Rudy is under investigation now. What a shocker. Rudy, assisted by scumbag Manafort from Prison, Firtash under house arrest in Austria and attempting to avoid extradition back to the US, and now his two buddies, co-owners of a company called "Fraud Guarantee" (can't make this stuff up). What a crew. THAT was and is the sludge running a shadow State Dept under the direction of Donald Vladimir Trumpkin.

I actually do wish it would end sometime in the next few days. Heck you don't even have to pull hard on a thread without having the whole thing unravel and ensnare another administration dirtbag. Pence, Pompeo, Sondland, Volker, Trump fully ensnared. Barr partially ensnared and Trump backing the bus over Rudy as we speak.

More administration officials leaving. Trump loses 6 big court cases, his NY tax case, his DC financial records case, his wall case, three Immigration cases all in the space of 1 week and none of these administration dirtbags can stand the gaze of Ambassador Yovanovitch. Just the optics today leave the WH with its yo-yo in its hand.

Apparently more WBer's coming forward and more witnesses will feel emboldened by the courage of Yovanovitch.

All the feeble Trumpettes can come up with is "PLEASE GOD HURRY NANCY" before there are even more revelations. Doubt she will be hurried as she has already rejected being bullied.
 
And just to make the week perfect, Trumpkin DID NOT win the Nobel Peace Prize this year either. Oh Gosh....he had such a good shot at it too! Ah-huh
 
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