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Biden Burisma evidence

Helix said:
i heard that it could have been as much as twentyteen gajillion a week, and it was all funneled into a plan to help Hillary re-attack Benghazi and hide the emails.
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You are totally wrong, ben Gazzi is is the Mooslin terrorist who is actually Obama's mother and who is hiding the eMails in the Hawai'ian Department of Vital Statistics in a secret file labelled "Academic Transcripts".
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
I think that they are reading from Sen. Mcarthy's "I hold in my hand a list of __[insert number than used yesterday]__ names of people who __[insert currently fashionable accusation]__." paper.
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The poster di di mao’ed.
 
Mycroft said:
What part of "investigation" do you not understand?
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Until someone has exhausted all of their appeals to no avail, following being convicted, after they have been tried, subsequent to being indicted they are **I*N*N*O*C*E*N*T** and it is an abuse of process and authority to conduct a so-called "investigation" of an **I*N*N*O*C*E*N*T** perso ..

Oh.

Wait!

We aren't talking about Mr. Trump or any member of "Team Trump" or any "Republican" or any "conservative" are we -

Right!

There is absolutely no need to waste time, effort, and money on any silly obsolete fripperies like "trials" and such, they have been accused so that means that they are GUILTY and the only thing to do with someone who is GUILTY is to

Lock him up.

Lock him UP!

LOCK him UP!!!

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!
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Bullseye said:
How about we do it the legal way, unlike left wing tactics. We conduct an investigation, we gather evidence, and then determine if an indictment is appropriate? I know that violates every progressive kangaroo law principle, but it's worked for a long time.
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You mean like you strenuously opposed when the subject of the allegations was Mr. Trump?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
You mean like you strenuously opposed when the subject of the allegations was Mr. Trump?
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Huh? Just spewing generalities because you have nothing of substance to say?
 
JasperL said:
Right, I'm unable to "prove" a negative. What I've asserted is there is not a shred of evidence Joe Biden was paid a nickel by Rosemont Seneca, for anything, ever, and making baseless, evidence free claims is aka lying.

Like this - Trump is a serial child rapist! Prove me wrong!! Or, Trump and Manafort were gay lovers, and Trump is sad his lover is in jail! Prove me wrong! Or, Putin funneled $1 billion to Trump properties since 2016! Prove me wrong! You cannot prove any of those claims are false.

If you want to defend the claim Joe Biden was paid by Rosemont Seneca, show your work. Simple.
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You're setting new levels of fail JasperL.

Sure you want to do that?
 
Good4Nothin said:
So Trump had a conversation with someone in the Ukraine about the Bidens possibly being corrupt. And somehow that is interpreted as asking a foreign power to interfere in a US election?

I don't understand the reasoning. It seems like just another desperate attempt to get rid of Trump.
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Well, it's like that. Trump threatened to withold promised security aid unless they investigated Biden.. a political opponent. That is using the power of the office to interfer with the opposition using by extorting a foreign government
 
RAMOSS said:
Well, it's like that. Trump threatened to withold promised security aid unless they investigated Biden.. a political opponent. That is using the power of the office to interfer with the opposition using by extorting a foreign government
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Care to post a link to where it is sais that happened? Are you confusing that with Biden threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine if officials did not fire the country’s top prosecutor and giving them six hours to do it?
 
Sabre said:
Care to post a link to where it is sais that happened? Are you confusing that with Biden threatening to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine if officials did not fire the country’s top prosecutor and giving them six hours to do it?
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Why. let's look at some articles. You are all mixed up, and misinformed about not only what Trump did, but what Biden did. That's sad.

From Trump’s Ukraine Whistle-blower Scandal: What We Know

In a July 25 phone call, Trump pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the business dealings of Joe Biden’s son, as he was holding up U.S. aid to the country. (Though Bloomberg cast doubt on the claim that the former vice-president interfered in Ukrainian politics to aid his son Hunter, Trump could still use the story against his potential 2020 rival.) The call came to light via a complaint from an intelligence-community whistle-blower, which Trump officials initially withheld from Congress. The 9-page complaint, which was made public this week, describes Trump administration efforts to cover up what the president told he Ukrainian counterpart, and Rudy Giuliani’s key role in urging Ukraine open investigations that could influence the 2020 election.
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And, that also has a link to the whistle blower document. The bolded section is the part that is impeachable.

The redacted version of the complaint is here

ANd here is concerns about the pressuring being quid quo pro.

Texts Detail Top Diplomat's Concerns About Possible Trump-Ukraine Quid Pro Quo : NPR


I probably could post a dozen or more links about that.
 
RAMOSS said:
Why. let's look at some articles. You are all mixed up, and misinformed about not only what Trump did, but what Biden did. That's sad.

From Trump’s Ukraine Whistle-blower Scandal: What We Know

And, that also has a link to the whistle blower document. The bolded section is the part that is impeachable.

The redacted version of the complaint is here [/url

ANd here is concerns about the pressuring being quid quo pro.

[url=https://www.npr.org/2019/10/04/767080125/texts-show-top-u-s-diplomat-in-ukraine-concerned-over-possible-quid-pro-quo]Texts Detail Top Diplomat's Concerns About Possible Trump-Ukraine Quid Pro Quo : NPR

I probably could post a dozen or more links about that.
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I had hoped you had something more concrete than a whistleblowers accusations that have no back up, just hearsay, I've read plenty of that. Biden on the other made the coercion threat of withholding the 1 billion in loan guarantees and it is on video of him telling about it, first person.

If you are interested in factual here is the vid of Biden:
YouTube

I have cut it down to just that part as close as I could, you might want to save a bit more time and move it ahead to min 51 on the slider. It runs from 51 to 53. Or not, up to you.
 
Helix said:
i heard that it could have been as much as twentyteen gajillion a week, and it was all funneled into a plan to help Hillary re-attack Benghazi and hide the emails.
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Nah! Hillary received the money in order to produce a Steele Dossier2.
 
ocean515 said:
You're setting new levels of fail JasperL.

Sure you want to do that?
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It's not me insisting that the burden of proof is on the accused to prove a negative - that's your bucket of fail position.

Again, if you think it's been proved Joe Biden was paid by Rosemont Seneca, show your work, with links to the evidence. You cannot do that, of course.... Hence, "prove he did NOT get paid!!" BS.
 
rocket88 said:
Honestly, do I buy that Biden may not be on the up and up? Yes.

Do i think that excuses Trump? No.

Biden or Trump, either way you're picking someone with conflict of interest and abuse of power issues. But please, go on ....
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This has been my thinking since, well, before this scandal popped up.
I would think it funny as hell if someone else gets the nomination (as I have been saying) and all of this was for naught.
One thing is for sure, if someone else gets the nod, you won't hear anyone on the right talk about Hunter Biden, ever again.
 
JasperL said:
It's not me insisting that the burden of proof is on the accused to prove a negative - that's your bucket of fail position.

Again, if you think it's been proved Joe Biden was paid by Rosemont Seneca, show your work, with links to the evidence. You cannot do that, of course.... Hence, "prove he did NOT get paid!!" BS.
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Last comment I will make on this sad BS you're attempting.

You made the claim first.

Now you turn it on me to prove your claim wrong?

Pathetic.

You're done.
 
HAL9000 said:
Not a new story.

Biden Faces Conflict of Interest Questions That Are Being Promoted by Trump and Allies - The New York Times

But your article alleges that the payments to Rosemont Seneca, of which Hunter is a cofounder, were payments to Joe Biden. But it doesn't support this conclusion at all.
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According to democrats Joe Biden is not connected to his son in areas which seem to indicate clear politically corrupt nepotism. Also according to democrats Trump is corruptly connected to his children in their own independent business dealings which show no signs of being corrupt.
 
marke said:
According to democrats Joe Biden is not connected to his son in areas which seem to indicate clear politically corrupt nepotism. Also according to democrats Trump is corruptly connected to his children in their own independent business dealings which show no signs of being corrupt.
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Cause the Trump organization is an independent business that has nothing to do with Trump... just shut up.
 
marke said:
According to democrats Joe Biden is not connected to his son in areas which seem to indicate clear politically corrupt nepotism. Also according to democrats Trump is corruptly connected to his children in their own independent business dealings which show no signs of being corrupt.
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Apparently you don’t know the definition of nepotism.

As for Trump being “corruptly connected” to his children, there is a great deal of already known evidence supporting that belief.

HAL9000 said:
Cause the Trump organization is an independent business that has nothing to do with Trump... just shut up.
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Horse ****! What an idiotic assertion. You should take your own advice and “shut up”.
 
Bullseye said:
Huh? Just spewing generalities because you have nothing of substance to say?
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Not at all, simply pointing out the disconnect in your attitude between allegations of wrong doing when made against "OUR Guys" and when made against "THEIR Guys".
 
marke said:
According to democrats Joe Biden is not connected to his son in areas which seem to indicate clear politically corrupt nepotism. Also according to democrats Trump is corruptly connected to his children in their own independent business dealings which show no signs of being corrupt.
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The Biden Conspiracy Theory with all it's twists and turns (a sure sign of a CT with no foundation) was hatched in Steve Bannon's Government Accountability Institute and peddled heavily by John Solomon then picked up by other Right wing whack jobs.

Now we already have substantial evidence of Rudy, his henchmen, Trump and Sondland CORRUPTLY attempting to cook up a corruption claim in Ukraine and you boys want to just keep drilling down that rat hole.

Are you kidding? It should seem obvious that the real result would be another FABRICATION ala' Bannon.

I don't know where you think you are going with this anyway. At this stage of events nobody in this country is going to go for more horse dung American "investigation" in Ukraine anyway. If Ukraine decides to investigate Borisma further they will and that will be that.

You want to investigate something investigate Bannon's little CT shop of horrors.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Not at all, simply pointing out the disconnect in your attitude between allegations of wrong doing when made against "OUR Guys" and when made against "THEIR Guys".
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Nope, that's projection of your sense of "justice" onto me. I don't have a "OUR Guys"; what I have, and you and your ilk lack is a deep belief in the Constitution and its Amendments. Find evidence that stands up to that and conduct a process that follows that and I'll support the result. So far the mass hysteria and mob mentality of the left and the DMIC isn't even on the same planet as the Constitution.
 
Bullseye said:
Nope, that's projection of your sense of "justice" onto me. I don't have a "OUR Guys"; what I have, and you and your ilk lack is a deep belief in the Constitution and its Amendments. Find evidence that stands up to that and conduct a process that follows that and I'll support the result. So far the mass hysteria and mob mentality of the left and the DMIC isn't even on the same planet as the Constitution.
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The evidence has been found and continues to be found, despite lawless obstruction on the part of your god.
The process is following it.
There is no mass hysteria and/or mob mentality, nor can you demonstrate otherwise.
The laughable fiction that you somehow, magically, have some love of the Constitution is exactly that: fiction.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The evidence has been found and continues to be found, despite lawless obstruction on the part of your god.
The process is following it.
There is no mass hysteria and/or mob mentality, nor can you demonstrate otherwise.
The laughable fiction that you somehow, magically, have some love of the Constitution is exactly that: fiction.
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Rarely has some much bull**** been compacted into so few sentences. Well done.
 
Bullseye said:
Rarely has some much bull**** been compacted into so few sentences. Well done.
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LOL! Given what I was responding to......

Sad that you actively hate the rule of law and support criminality and corruption, but it's no skin off my teeth if you do.
 
Bullseye said:
Nope, that's projection of your sense of "justice" onto me. I don't have a "OUR Guys"; what I have, and you and your ilk lack is a deep belief in the Constitution and its Amendments. Find evidence that stands up to that and conduct a process that follows that and I'll support the result. So far the mass hysteria and mob mentality of the left and the DMIC isn't even on the same planet as the Constitution.
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Yeah, right, sure.
 
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