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Pulling out of Syria, good or bad decision?

I say get out and move on. We don't need to be anywhere in the middle east. If bad things happen after we leave we can go back and hold those bad people responsible. Their is a reason we see horrible things in Africa but the US doesn't lend a hand to help them, we should treat the middle east with the same rational.
Its funny to see the Trump haters commit double think. They want us to stay in this foreign war but want to elect Bernie Sanders and cut the military budget by 80%. Both cant be true at the same time except in (their world).
 
VanceMack said:
I dont know if it is yet the right decision...but there damn sure should be some serious thought put into all of this.
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There are always issues on everything- its politics.
 
VanceMack said:
I'm happy that kneeling subjects and crippled dependent pets dont get to make foreign policy decisions that could start wars that they themselves will never have the balls to have to go and fight.

Run along now. You have no opinion of consequence. Maybe you should content yourself to trying to decide which master your country is eager to serve.
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More infantile 'insults' from someone with nothing else to offer. Keep 'em coming.
 
If you want to Steve Bannon the United States the first thing you have to do is isolate it. They are doing a pretty good job of isolating it. That said I truly question the logic and the sense of isolating the United States. Sort of tells you how desperate some of these jokers are to remake the country and overturn the Constitutional Republic.
 
SkyChief said:
It's not often that I agree with Trump on something, but pulling troops out of the Middle East is always a good idea.

To hell with warmonger Lindsay Graham.
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He's not pulling troops out of the ME, he's just having them moved to a different location in the ME so Turkey can do as they wish.
 
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Few people outside Trumpster bubble think this is a good idea.

And most of the ones inside Trumpster bubble only think its a good idea because it pushes their isolationist button and because they jerk their knees and salivate whenever Trump speaks and cheer for whatever he says.

It could have been the exact opposite a day, or an hour before, and it wouldn’t matter/

After all, these are the same people yelling about Obama “leading from behind”.

They all said that hated that.

But now, they’re all here talking right out the opposite sides of their mouths.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but what is stoppiing the European nations of NATO (rumored to have military forces) from protecting the (suddenly so precious?) Kurds or fighting ISIS in Syria?
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Nothing; we have no plans to betray our allies as your idiot-in-chief has done. So what prompted Trump apart from his need to impress Erdogan on his imminent visit to the US? The Kurds were always 'precious'. They did all the heavy lifting against ISIS.

As US withdraws troops from Syria, France and UK remain in the back seat
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but what is stoppiing the European nations of NATO (rumored to have military forces) from protecting the (suddenly so precious?) Kurds or fighting ISIS in Syria?
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They already have boots on the ground.

However, the Trumpettes simply do not understand the weight and bearing of the support of the leader of the western democracies. You boys are content to just give that position away utterly wrapped around the axle of what you see as the cost of maintaining it and completely oblivious to the direct benefits to the United States for having it.
 
snakestretcher said:
Of course it's about Russia. Syria is Russia's client state and Trump just handed Assad/Putin a political victory.
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Yep, as the rest of our alleged NATO allied nations sit back and make demands of the US military to go to (stay at?) war (forever?) for them. Why no similar criticism of those other NATO nation's "leaders"?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, as the rest of our alleged NATO allied nations sit back and make demands of the US military to go to (stay at?) war (forever?) for them. Why no similar criticism of those other NATO nation's "leaders"?
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What demands? If Trump wants to be remembered for betrayal he's done a fine job of cementing his place in history. America is not fighting 'for us'; we're all supposed to be in this together for the good of the world, and every NATO nation involved in the conflict has made as much of a contribution as every other.

American-led intervention in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, as the rest of our alleged NATO allied nations sit back and make demands of the US military to go to (stay at?) war (forever?) for them. Why no similar criticism of those other NATO nation's "leaders"?
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We have or had 1,000 troopers on the ground in Syria. Trump wants a 1,000 troopers? Take them from somewhere other than Syria. Trump has given Erdogan and Putin a tremendous gift here. Wonder what Erdogan is giving back to Trump. It certainly WILL NOT be anything that benefits the people of the United States, the National Security of the United States. It will be something that is simply a benefit to Trump's personal ambitions.
 
jnug said:
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They already have boots on the ground.

However, the Trumpettes simply do not understand the weight and bearing of the support of the leader of the western democracies. You boys are content to just give that position away utterly wrapped around the axle of what you see as the cost of maintaining it and completely oblivious to the direct benefits to the United States for having it.
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Trump has removed maybe 100 US troops from that area - surely the other NATO nations can spare that many (from parade duty in their homelands?) without fear of a Russian invasion.
 
US official states this morning, "NO US Troops have left Syria at this point. Still coordinating with Kurds"

In other words, Trump is and was just trying to occupy a few minutes of media A-block time in what is shaping up to be a tough news week for him. WHAT A SHOCK. Another example of the so called anti-politican who just happens to be an uber-politician.

Trump is a horsesass. In fact he is a pathological mess AND a horsesass.

At the least Trump is going to find out in 2020 that there is a penalty for putting everybody's pulse and blood pressure in the red every 5 minutes just because he likes to do it. Works when you are negotiating with a plumbing contractor. Doesn't work when you are negotiating with the Voters. He might not even get to November 2020. Whatever...he will go down in November 2020.
 
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snakestretcher said:
What demands? If Trump wants to be remembered for betrayal he's done a fine job of cementing his place in history. America is not fighting 'for us'; we're all supposed to be in this together for the good of the world, and every NATO nation involved in the conflict has made as much of a contribution as every other.

American-led intervention in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia
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OK, then supply the 100 to 1000 "boots on the ground" that Trump is removing - surely that is not too heavy of a lift for those so sure that their plan (of protecting the Kurds forever?) is justified.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, then supply the 100 to 1000 "boots on the ground" that Trump is removing - surely that is not too heavy of a lift for those so sure that their plan (of protecting the Kurds forever?) is justified.
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Why should we do your job for you? I suspect the next time America wants help from her NATO allies we won't be so willing to assist if this is an example of US 'loyalty'.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, then supply the 100 to 1000 "boots on the ground" that Trump is removing - surely that is not too heavy of a lift for those so sure that their plan (of protecting the Kurds forever?) is justified.
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Trump said by Tweet that we are leaving. There are 1,000 troopers left there not 100. So square that circle before blathering more nonsense.

Square up the circle of the acknowledged leader of the free world LEAVING an ally in the lurch.

Oh wait...you boys don't care about that. Has no value to you....you just see it as a cost. MAGA!!!!
 
independentusa said:
Trump in a single moment has decided he is pulling troops out of Syria and leaving it to Turkey. He has done this right after talking to the President of Turkey. Everyone knows this will allow Turkey to attack the Kurds who have done all of the fighting for us against ISIS. The last town held by ISIS was taken without the loss of a single American life because the fighting and dying was done by the Kurds. This decision has even split the GOP as most are saying it is a bad decision, although a few talking heads on Fox are saying he is just keeping one of his campaign promises. So is this a good decision? Is this an attempt to deflect from the impeachment, something Trump has done before?
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It's a betrayal of our allies. The "leaker", which did no AmeriCAN a favor letting the world know our President's private conversation, did make an accurate point: "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come". On the world stage the Kurds are about as inconsequential as it gets, but now, EVERY ONE of our Allies have to be wondering what being our ally means, if anything.
 
jnug said:
We have or had 1,000 troopers on the ground in Syria. Trump wants a 1,000 troopers? Take them from somewhere other than Syria. Trump has given Erdogan and Putin a tremendous gift here. Wonder what Erdogan is giving back to Trump. It certainly WILL NOT be anything that benefits the people of the United States, the National Security of the United States. It will be something that is simply a benefit to Trump's personal ambitions.
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Why, exactly, can't other NATO nation's supply those (allegedly critical) 1000 boots on the ground?
 
jnug said:
Trump said by Tweet that we are leaving. There are 1,000 troopers left there not 100. So square that circle before blathering more nonsense.

Square up the circle of the acknowledged leader of the free world LEAVING an ally in the lurch.

Oh wait...you boys don't care about that. Has no value to you....you just see it as a cost. MAGA!!!!
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1K troops is militarily insignificant. Better to make them go home than risk their lives over a war that America has no business fighting.
 
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