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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    ok great. that very well might happen. he may even go to jail after his presidency if something actually is found.


    now, will Biden ever pay for his almost blatant admission of a crime? or even be investigated further?
    Biden will pay, for sure, by being eliminated from contention as presidential candidate for the dems in 2020, IMO...But yes, Biden and his son should, at least, be investigated for Ukraine.
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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    There will be no "transcript". What you got yesterday is all there is. According to others who were involved in previous admins, what was released yesterday was typically all that is ever created for such calls.
    I didn't realize they'd released it already.

    [looks it up] ...

    OK. So what do Democrats want here? Let's just say Pres. Trump is corrupt as all-get-out and pressured Pres. Zelensky.

    Pres. Zelensky denies it. Pres. Trump obviously denies it. There's no evidence of it on the transcript (or "memorandum"). The only thing they have to work on is double-hearsay from an anonymous whistleblower.

    Are they really going to use that as a basis for impeachment? I just... Does that seem reasonable to anybody here?

    Are they trying to lose the 2020 election? What do they hope to accomplish? I don't understand.

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    ok great. that very well might happen. he may even go to jail after his presidency if something actually is found. i do want to see actual proof firsthand though. I won;t accept rants and hyperbole of what might have happened because of how Trump acts, as evidence.


    now, will Biden ever pay for his almost blatant admission of a crime? or even be investigated further?
    I doubt he ever sees jail time.
    For me, and I am only speaking for me here. The Dems are doing the right thing on this WB scandal.
    It may not have the outcome I personally desire, but if Trump's actions are not Impeachable, no one will ever be able to be impeached for improper behavior.
    I am ok with them doing their jobs, even if it means short-term loses on the whole.

    ETA: I didn't see your Biden thing.
    I don't like Biden, never have he is an absolute Gaffe machine. I hope he is not the nominee.
    And if he has done wrong, I don't care if he goes to jail. Like, at all.

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Joseph Mcguire just admitted that he went to the White House legal council FIRST to seek advice as to whether the matter in the complaint was determined to be 'executive privilege' or not. DUH! Of course, he went right to the source of the whistleblower complaint!
    The whole phone call should be executive privilege.
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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    The whole phone call should be executive privilege.
    Write DonDon a letter in protest. He released the thing to the public no less.

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Biden was investigated
    and when he said , basically bragged he had the prosecutor fired, should he not be investigated again?


    "I remember going over and convincing our team, others, to convince that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

    So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a b-tch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time."


    you can find this video all over.

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by COTO View Post
    I didn't realize they'd released it already.

    [looks it up] ...

    OK. So what do Democrats want here? Let's just say Pres. Trump is corrupt as all-get-out and pressured Pres. Zelensky.

    Pres. Zelensky denies it. Pres. Trump obviously denies it. There's no evidence of it on the transcript (or "memorandum"). The only thing they have to work on is double-hearsay from an anonymous whistleblower.

    Are they really going to use that as a basis for impeachment? I just... Does that seem reasonable to anybody here?

    Are they trying to lose the 2020 election? What do they hope to accomplish? I don't understand.
    Quid quo pro: a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.

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    President Zelenskyy:...We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes

    The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Write DonDon a letter in protest. He released the thing to the public no less.
    The dems screamed. Trump responded.
    "Elitism is not just for the rich and powerful. Elitism is everywhere. The cry of the 'Nouveau-elite' is: You can't be racist but I can be racist. You can't be sexist but I can be sexist. You can't be fascist but I can act like a fascist and fascism only happens on the right." 01/09/19

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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    I have seen nothing that shows this yet.
    please cite the reference for this thought.
    Everyone, and I'm sure you as well, have read and dissected the first disclosure yesterday of the phone conversation between President Zelensky of Ukraine and Donald Trump. And no, I don't have time to abide you pulling me into a dispute over what was said, what was promised or what was requested by Trump in that conversation.










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    Re: Dissecting the whistleblower transcript today

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Nothing gets done because Moscow Mitch does not even allow bills passed by the House to even be debated on the floor of the Senate. The House has passed oodles of legislation. Its all sitting dormant over in the Senate thanks to Moscow Mitch.
    That is wrong on McConnell's part. All an incumbent has to say is, 'I tried but the bills were tied up.'
    "Elitism is not just for the rich and powerful. Elitism is everywhere. The cry of the 'Nouveau-elite' is: You can't be racist but I can be racist. You can't be sexist but I can be sexist. You can't be fascist but I can act like a fascist and fascism only happens on the right." 01/09/19

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