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Gender-neutral Barbies. Is there no limit to Marxist perversion?

Mashmont said:
People in every organization do bad things because people are fallible. But how does that alter the perfect teachings of Christ and of the bible? Saying I can't call out immorality because a few gay priests molested some kids is absurd.
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Oh spare us the deflection. Your church systematically, throughout decades and possibly more, raped, molested, pillaged and murdered youth. How many forced abortions were done on order of a priest who had raped a young girl?

And no. It's not absurd. The church is a pathetic criminal institution with ZERO moral authority.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I dunno how Marx gets brought into these conversations.

Definitely don’t remember anything about Gender Neutral Barbie Dolls in the communist manifesto.
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Gee, that's silly isn't it? The Bible also didn't speak against nuclear holocaust. Derp.
 
Mashmont said:
You're knocking down a strawman that you set up. I never said there should be a law against it. I just think customers ought to make them pay for their immoral decision.
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Yeah, I'm sure Mattel's customer base is gonna be up in arms about this. :roll:
 
Drawdown said:
Wasn't Andy from Raggedy Ann and Andy kind of Gender Neutral? Was Andy a boy; was Andy a girl?
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Ann was the girl. Andy was the boy. Simple. Derp.
 
Mashmont said:
Mattel, maker of Barbie, introduces gender-neutral dolls

Pathetic and disgusting. Mattel should be boycotted until they remove this trash. There is no such thing as a gender-neutral person. God made us MALE or FEMALE. There is nothing in between and nothing ambiguous. These leftists who claim they embrace science clearly do not. TWO genders. Period.

But the manipulation of little girls through this vile unnatural leftist propaganda is what has me absolutely fuming. Is nobody safe from this onslaught from the Marxist left to degrade the nuclear family? We all know the end-game, of course. To further weaken the father, mother, child family through abortion, through gender confusion, through homosexual acts. If they can make this collapse occur, America will be ripe for Marxist takeover, and that will mean unimaginable wealth and power for the very few, and total abject poverty for the rest of us.

Let's fight this evil. Let Mattel know how you feel. Boycott the hell out of them until they drop this garbage.
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Barbie and Kens mom would be rolling around in her grave if she knew this.
 
Obscurity said:
Oh spare us the deflection. Your church systematically, throughout decades and possibly more, raped, molested, pillaged and murdered youth. How many forced abortions were done on order of a priest who had raped a young girl?

And no. It's not absurd. The church is a pathetic criminal institution with ZERO moral authority.
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Once again, the actions of a relatively few bad apples have zero to do with the perfect teachings of Christ or the Bible. Tell me this. Do you condemn irreligion and atheism because atheist regimes murdered 100 million in the last century? Bet not.
 
Obscurity said:
Oh spare us the deflection. Your church systematically, throughout decades and possibly more, raped, molested, pillaged and murdered youth. How many forced abortions were done on order of a priest who had raped a young girl?

And no. It's not absurd. The church is a pathetic criminal institution with ZERO moral authority.
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Where does he say he's speaking on behalf of his church? Why would you even assume that?

Even if he was, how would it invalidate has arguments?

Tu quoque is a logical fallacy. It's universally recognized as such. You're not on solid ground here.
 
Now, this was a real Marx-ist toy. 2.jpg

I had this WW II play set, but my dad became worried when I wanted a doll house. I figured the little blue plastic SWAT guys needed a house to breach and the little plastic family that came with the metal doll house would be ideal as hostages for the terrorist Germans from the Navarone toy. I still have these army guys in the closet. I thought my nephews would want them, but they were only interested in video games. Something tells me that this is an intentional loss leader by Mattel to advertise. Nothing more. Let's show how woke we are and sell more of our popular products. My sister and her friends borrowed my G.I. Joe's for her dream house one time. They said Ken was too gay. G.I. Joe wasn't too happy to get killed during the Swing Set Assault of 1975 after an R&R with Barbie and Skipper.
 
Mashmont said:
Pathetic and disgusting. Mattel should be boycotted until they remove this trash. There is no such thing as a gender-neutral person. God made us MALE or FEMALE. There is nothing in between and nothing ambiguous. These leftists who claim they embrace science clearly do not. TWO genders. Period.
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Dolls don’t have any genitals (at least, not the ones you should be giving to children) so by your definition, aren’t they all genderless? :cool:
 
Jetboogieman said:
I dunno how Marx gets brought into these conversations.

Definitely don’t remember anything about Gender Neutral Barbie Dolls in the communist manifesto.
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The Mattel corporation is doing this to destroy their stock price and start another and final stock market crash bringing about the complete and permanent collapse of the capitalist system and the begging of a new and glorious communist red dawn
 
COTO said:
Where does he say he's speaking on behalf of his church? Why would you even assume that?

Even if he was, how would it invalidate has arguments?

Tu quoque is a logical fallacy. It's universally recognized as such. You're not on solid ground here.
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I'm on solid ground. He doesn't get to enforce morality while he holds to a hideous church that is hell bent on raping children.
 
Quag said:
The Mattel corporation is doing this to destroy their stock price and start another and final stock market crash bringing about the complete and permanent collapse of the capitalist system and the begging of a new and glorious communist red dawn
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168D Chess!
 
Mashmont said:
Once again, the actions of a relatively few bad apples have zero to do with the perfect teachings of Christ or the Bible. Tell me this. Do you condemn irreligion and atheism because atheist regimes murdered 100 million in the last century? Bet not.
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Tens of thousands of children raped and beaten by catholic priests and nuns
 
Obscurity said:
I'm on solid ground. He doesn't get to enforce morality while he holds to a hideous church that is hell bent on raping children.
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Like I said. Since atheist Joe Stalin, atheist Pol Pot, and atheist Mao murdered 70 million between them, then you should be equally critical of atheism, and all irreligion. Why aren't you?
 
Quag said:
The Mattel corporation is doing this to destroy their stock price and start another and final stock market crash bringing about the complete and permanent collapse of the capitalist system and the begging of a new and glorious communist red dawn
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No, they're doing it to suck up to the PC Marxist left. All corporations seek to be politically correct now. I'm looking for the pioneer who stands with Chick-fil-a and Hobby Lobby to stand up to the PC garbage. Those are the corporations I will support.
 
vegas giants said:
If I present it will you apologize on behalf of the catholic church to all those kids?
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Sure. Right after you apologize on behalf of atheists for their murder of 100 million between 1933-77. Deal?
 
HonestJoe said:
Dolls don’t have any genitals (at least, not the ones you should be giving to children) so by your definition, aren’t they all genderless? :cool:
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Obviously there is decency involved. But Barbie is unmistakably female. Gee, do I really have to explain this? I hope you're just playing dumb.
 
Mashmont said:
Like I said. Since atheist Joe Stalin, atheist Pol Pot, and atheist Mao murdered 70 million between them, then you should be equally critical of atheism, and all irreligion. Why aren't you?
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I'm not creating threads at the moment proclaiming a moral superiority. You are.
 
Mashmont said:
Sure. Right after you apologize on behalf of atheists for their murder of 100 million between 1933-77. Deal?
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Here is just one tiny country

In the Republic of Ireland, starting in the 1990s, there were a series of criminal cases and government enquiries related to allegations that priests had abused hundreds of minors over previous decades. State-ordered investigations documented "tens of thousands of children from the 1940s to the 1990s" who suffered abuse, including sexual abuse at the hands of priests, nuns, and church staff in three dioceses.[137]


Wait until I get to the US
 
Obscurity said:
I'm on solid ground. He doesn't get to enforce morality while he holds to a hideous church that is hell bent on raping children.
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What do you want from me?

Tu quoque is a logical fallacy. It is a logically invalid argument. Should the readership ignore this?

@Mashmont says this marketing of "gender neutral" dolls by Mattel is immoral. He's said multiple times that he's basing this moral judgment on scripture, i.e. "the perfect teachings of Christ or the Bible", not the moral authority of the Catholic Church. This discussion has absolutely nothing to do with the Catholic Church unless/until somebody invokes the church as their basis for opposing the marketing of the dolls.

If you want to attack his argument legitimately, either i) dispute that the marketing is contrary to scripture, or ii) dispute that scripture is the true foundation of moral law.

Better still, since neither of these arguments will lead anywhere, try arguing that the dolls pose no practical harm to children and debate him on that basis. Either way, get off your present arc. It's logically invalid, irrelevant, and a dead end. Ask yourself: are you here to debate the thread topic, or are you here to rail against the Catholic Church for no good reason?
 
Mashmont said:
Mattel, maker of Barbie, introduces gender-neutral dolls

Pathetic and disgusting. Mattel should be boycotted until they remove this trash. There is no such thing as a gender-neutral person. God made us MALE or FEMALE. There is nothing in between and nothing ambiguous. These leftists who claim they embrace science clearly do not. TWO genders. Period.

But the manipulation of little girls through this vile unnatural leftist propaganda is what has me absolutely fuming. Is nobody safe from this onslaught from the Marxist left to degrade the nuclear family? We all know the end-game, of course. To further weaken the father, mother, child family through abortion, through gender confusion, through homosexual acts. If they can make this collapse occur, America will be ripe for Marxist takeover, and that will mean unimaginable wealth and power for the very few, and total abject poverty for the rest of us.

Let's fight this evil. Let Mattel know how you feel. Boycott the hell out of them until they drop this garbage.
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Why are you so easily offended over a Barbie doll?!
 
Mashmont said:
Obviously there is decency involved. But Barbie is unmistakably female. Gee, do I really have to explain this? I hope you're just playing dumb.
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I was mostly playing sarcastic because I found it a ridiculous thing to get so worked up about but there was an element of a viable point behind it. If long hair, breasts and wearing dresses are enough to define Barbie as female, why aren’t they enough for transgender person?
 
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