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    Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Nancy Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming
    But it remains the case that only Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) will decide whether the caucus moves forward with impeachment. On Friday afternoon, she called on the Trump administration to end the stonewalling on the whistleblower complaint—and promised that her committees will move to get it if they do not comply. But, notably, she did not broach the topic of impeachment.

    The comments sparked renewed frustration among the ranks of lawmakers worried that the failure to begin impeachment proceedings has effectively abetted more ethically-dubious activity from Trump.

    “She’s still holding back,” one pro-impeachment lawmaker said of Pelosi. “If impeachment isn’t for this, why is impeachment in the constitution?”

    Privately, lawmakers put the tally on those who support impeachment at just under 140 members of the House. But that number has been steadily growing over the course of the summer even as Pelosi has said she sees no political upside in its pursuit.
    This is truly pathetic. Trump abuses his office to target Democrats and rubs Pelosi's nose in it like a dog.

    We've talked endlessly about what Republican leaders will tolerate from Trump, but what we aren't discussing enough is what Democratic leaders are tolerating from him.

    They are the majority. There is no excuse not impeach to him. The line has been crossed. Don't give me this "well, Republicans will never convict him" because by that logic, Pelosi shouldn't bring a single bill to the floor, since McConnell will never let it come up for a vote, right?

    And don't give me this crap that "kitchen table issues" are the buzz around America, because Pelosi hasn't done a damn thing to make that the Democratic message. No, she's talked endlessly about what a criminal Trump is, and then runs and hides when her bluff is called.

    If you're too afraid to impeach a President that is recruiting foreign assistance for next years election to beat you, and is breaking the law to conceal it, you're a pathetic loser that deserves to go down in history as Trump's greatest accomplice during his reign of debauchery.

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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

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    Nancy Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    This is truly pathetic. Trump abuses his office to target Democrats and rubs Pelosi's nose in it like a dog.

    We've talked endlessly about what Republican leaders will tolerate from Trump, but what we aren't discussing enough is what Democratic leaders are tolerating from him.

    They are the majority. There is no excuse not impeach to him. The line has been crossed. Don't give me this "well, Republicans will never convict him" because by that logic, Pelosi shouldn't bring a single bill to the floor, since McConnell will never let it come up for a vote, right?

    And don't give me this crap that "kitchen table issues" are the buzz around America, because Pelosi hasn't done a damn thing to make that the Democratic message. No, she's talked endlessly about what a criminal Trump is, and then runs and hides when her bluff is called.

    If you're too afraid to impeach a President that is recruiting foreign assistance for next years election to beat you, and is breaking the law to conceal it, you're a pathetic loser that deserves to go down in history as Trump's greatest accomplice during his reign of debauchery.
    Psst, here's the secret, the majority of Dems never wanted to bring formal charges or they would never have voted for Pelosi as speaker. And you will be able to tell when they change their minds. There will be a major and very public movement in the caucus to replace her if she doesn't get out of the way. Pelosi is doing exactly what the majority in her caucus currently want. They want to scream and shout in those districts where it is popular to scream and shout, and slow walk this everywhere else.

    Voters will decide whether these high crimes and misdemeanors warrant his replacement in about 13 months, while they simultaniously decide if they want to replace the House membership.
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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

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    Nancy Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    This is truly pathetic. Trump abuses his office to target Democrats and rubs Pelosi's nose in it like a dog.

    We've talked endlessly about what Republican leaders will tolerate from Trump, but what we aren't discussing enough is what Democratic leaders are tolerating from him.

    They are the majority. There is no excuse not impeach to him. The line has been crossed. Don't give me this "well, Republicans will never convict him" because by that logic, Pelosi shouldn't bring a single bill to the floor, since McConnell will never let it come up for a vote, right?

    And don't give me this crap that "kitchen table issues" are the buzz around America, because Pelosi hasn't done a damn thing to make that the Democratic message. No, she's talked endlessly about what a criminal Trump is, and then runs and hides when her bluff is called.

    If you're too afraid to impeach a President that is recruiting foreign assistance for next years election to beat you, and is breaking the law to conceal it, you're a pathetic loser that deserves to go down in history as Trump's greatest accomplice during his reign of debauchery.
    I wasn't okay with it until this whole whistle-blower thing came out, then I began to trust her judgement again. She's clever because she's playing it both ways, she's allowing the public to become outraged enough by her reticence that she's actually building a coalition of support from the public. She's been playing this politics game since she was a child, she knows how to work it and she's still sharp as a tack. I put my trust in her the day she said that "Trump is self-impeaching" and I'm certain she knew that sooner or later, and before the 2020 election, that Trump would get crazier and sloppier and eventually do something so egregious that there would be an overwhelming roar from both sides to impeach him.





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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    I wasn't okay with it until this whole whistle-blower thing came out, then I began to trust her judgement again. She's clever because she's playing it both ways, she's allowing the public to become outraged enough by her reticence that she's actually building a coalition of support from the public. She's been playing this politics game since she was a child, she knows how to work it and she's still sharp as a tack. I put my trust in her the day she said that "Trump is self-impeaching" and I'm certain she knew that sooner or later, and before the 2020 election, that Trump would get crazier and sloppier and eventually do something so egregious that there would be an overwhelming roar from both sides to impeach him.

    There is no strategy, she simply doesn't want to do it because she doesn't like political wars.

    The idea that "she's playing 3d chess" is delusional. She's made it loud and clear that not only she not playing 3d chess, she's not playing ANYTHING.

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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Trump is good for the democrats, that's why she isn't pushing impeachment.

    Trump is a polarizing force and more people are finding themselves in opposition to Trump. That's more people voting the democratic ticket. Why do you think there are 20 democrat candidates? They smell blood.

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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    There is no strategy, she simply doesn't want to do it because she doesn't like political wars.

    The idea that "she's playing 3d chess" is delusional. She's made it loud and clear that not only she not playing 3d chess, she's not playing ANYTHING.
    Evidently you know very little about Nancy Pelosi.




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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Pelosi is arguably the most politically astute person in D.C.; her political prowess over the decades is legendary.

    There's a reason for this; the woman is not only one of the smartest living politicians, she understands democratic voters better than just about anyone on the planet.

    Should Trump be impeached for high crimes & misdemeanors? Of course. Does the House have the votes to do so? Probably. Would impeaching Trump mere months, perhaps weeks, before Nov. 2020 do anything whatsoever to assist Democratic candidates maintain their seats in 2020 and garner new ones? Nope. Would Trump actually be convicted by the Senate and removed from office mere months, perhaps weeks, before Nov. 2020? Of course not. Never. Not even if every GOP Senator was promised a personal lap-dancer for life with daily/hourly blow jobs on demand.

    So what in whatever God one worships' name would be the freaking point? Democrats have everything to lose, and not even the slightest possibility of winning.

    If Trump isn't re-elected, I suspect there will be a line of indictments and arrest warrants waiting outside the WH in January of 2021; problem solved. If Trump is indeed re-elected, then the House has had an extra year or two to get their impeachment investigation strategy in line to convince the general public with incontrovertible evidence that this president is corrupt to the core; if the damned general public doesn't care and has already re-elected Trump, America has bigger problems than any impeachment could resolve in less than a generation. It will prove that American citizens don't care about having a corrupt government as long as the corruption gives them what they personally want.

    So y'all tell me, what could possibly be the upside for the Democrats and the American people of wasting the next year on a fool's errand instead of working on healthcare and other issues that we know the majority of Americans desperately want, pointing at Moscow Mitch and the GOP Senate when Americans are denied what they want, and using that obstructionism as a campaign platform for the entire Democratic 2020 Platform?
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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    I wasn't okay with it until this whole whistle-blower thing came out, then I began to trust her judgement again. She's clever because she's playing it both ways, she's allowing the public to become outraged enough by her reticence that she's actually building a coalition of support from the public. She's been playing this politics game since she was a child, she knows how to work it and she's still sharp as a tack. I put my trust in her the day she said that "Trump is self-impeaching" and I'm certain she knew that sooner or later, and before the 2020 election, that Trump would get crazier and sloppier and eventually do something so egregious that there would be an overwhelming roar from both sides to impeach him.

    Yep. You get it.
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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Evidently you know very little about Nancy Pelosi.
    The only thing Democrats and anti-trumpers know how to do these days is attack each other.

    Notice the silence from all of the Democratic candidates when the T-party attacks one particular Democrat, no matter who it is.
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    Re: Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

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    Nancy Pelosi Not Budging on Impeachment and Her Colleagues Are Privately Screaming

    This is truly pathetic. Trump abuses his office to target Democrats and rubs Pelosi's nose in it like a dog.

    We've talked endlessly about what Republican leaders will tolerate from Trump, but what we aren't discussing enough is what Democratic leaders are tolerating from him.

    They are the majority. There is no excuse not impeach to him. The line has been crossed. Don't give me this "well, Republicans will never convict him" because by that logic, Pelosi shouldn't bring a single bill to the floor, since McConnell will never let it come up for a vote, right?

    And don't give me this crap that "kitchen table issues" are the buzz around America, because Pelosi hasn't done a damn thing to make that the Democratic message. No, she's talked endlessly about what a criminal Trump is, and then runs and hides when her bluff is called.

    If you're too afraid to impeach a President that is recruiting foreign assistance for next years election to beat you, and is breaking the law to conceal it, you're a pathetic loser that deserves to go down in history as Trump's greatest accomplice during his reign of debauchery.
    For some reason I think Pelosi has a better handle on this than her critics from the peanut gallery. The voters well know Trumpís sins and foibles and his support remains entrenched around 40 percent. He wonít win with that number. Pelosi doesnít want to boost him with a sympathetic impeachment trial presided over by McConnell who will orchestrate it as an attack against a wronged man. Voter interest will be there for the impeachment hearings in the House but it will be there in spades for that trial. Pelosi is no dope.
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