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    Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?

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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    It's clearly obstruction of justice and defiance of the Constitution.




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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    No, the president does not have the right to stop Congressional investigation into him/her, or into anything else.

    The presidency already has too many extra constitutional powers: the de facto power to declare war is the biggest and most dangerous of those. The power to levy taxes in the form of tariffs is another. It's time to rein in the presidency and restore the balance of powers.
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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    Are you talking about Executive privilege? If not, what are you referring to, as your OP is vague on substance and heavy on hyperbole.

    Hard to figure out the foundation for your....question?

    I can say that while the Constitution does not expressly authorize Congress to "investigate, it's list of powers and duties implies the ability to do so prior to enacting legislation, taxation, impeachment, and other duties.

    In regards to the President, it is implied by the duties of that Office certain executive privileges to perform the functions of that Office.

    How these implied powers interact, and how much authority this gives Congress vs the President remains to be seen.
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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, the president does not have the right to stop Congressional investigation into him/her, or into anything else.

    The presidency already has too many extra constitutional powers: the de facto power to declare war is the biggest and most dangerous of those. The power to levy taxes in the form of tariffs is another. It's time to rein in the presidency and restore the balance of powers.
    Sad to say but the voices of change aren't going to be coming out of Congress. Change will happen only when Americans have had enough of this travesty of justice and march on Washington and all over the country to protest.




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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    So, your arguing that the "balance of power" requires that the President cede any and all rights in face of a hostile congress fishing for something, anything, with which to prosecute him? At what point does a President have the right to say No. Not just Trump, but any President.
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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    He has a right that constitutional procedures be followed. Nadler has a ďmake believeĒ impeachment inquiry. He has no choice. He doesnít have the votes for a real one so a fake one will have to do. Dumb people donít care about that. As long as the I word is in there they feel like in their heads, momentum is building! Woooo....

    I donít think America is as pissed off as the people under your rock think they are.
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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    It seems that this president has used his man Barr and others in his administration into stopping all and any investigations into his actions and his family ties. If this is upheld by the courts, then future presidents will be able to do the same. It certainly means the end to so called balance of power between the executive, Legislative and Judical branches of our government. So what is happening does not just effect Trump, but future presidents who will and can do the same. So does Trump's actions meet with your approval considering what it means for the future of our country?
    Trump hasn't stopped any investigation. None. Heck, he doesn't even have the power to tell Congress to stop investigating whatever they want to investigate.

    On the other hand, there is absolutely no law that says that Trump has to give up his own rights, as a citizen and as the President, because a corrupt Congress wants to investigate him for nonsense.

    So quit your crying. Move on. Go vote next year.
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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Are you talking about Executive privilege? If not, what are you referring to, as your OP is vague on substance and heavy on hyperbole?

    Hard to figure out the foundation for your....question?

    I can say that while the Constitution does not expressly authorize Congress to "investigate, it's list of powers and duties implies the ability to do so prior to enacting legislation, taxation, impeachment, and other duties.

    In regards to the President, it is implied by the duties of that Office certain executive privileges to perform the functions of that Office.

    How these implied powers interact, and how much authority this gives Congress vs the President remains to be seen.
    The SCOTUS says that they do have the power to investigate, even if it isnt mentioned word for word in the US Constitution.

    The Court has long since accorded its agreement with Congress that the investigatory power is so essential to the legislative function as to be implied from the general vesting of legislative power in Congress. “We are of the opinion,” wrote Justice Van Devanter for a unanimous Court, “that the power of inquiry—with process to enforce it—is an essential and appropriate auxiliary to the legislative function. . . . A legislative body cannot legislate wisely or effectively in the absence of information respecting the conditions which the legislation is intended to affect or change; and where the legislative body does not itself possess the requisite information—which not infrequently is true—recourse must be had to others who possess it. Experience has taught that mere requests for such information often are unavailing, and also that information which is volunteered is not always accurate or complete; so some means of compulsion are essential to obtain what is needed. All this was true before and when the Constitution was framed and adopted. In that period the power of inquiry—with enforcing process—was regarded and employed as a necessary and appropriate attribute of the power to legislate—indeed, was treated as inhering in it. Thus there is ample warrant for thinking, as we do, that the constitutional provisions which commit the legislative function to the two houses are intended to include this attribute to the end that the function may be effectively exercised.”

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    Re: Does the President have the right to stop any Congressional investigation into him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Trump hasn't stopped any investigation. None. Heck, he doesn't even have the power to tell Congress to stop investigating whatever they want to investigate.

    On the other hand, there is absolutely no law that says that Trump has to give up his own rights, as a citizen and as the President, because a corrupt Congress wants to investigate him for nonsense.

    So quit your crying. Move on. Go vote next year.
    What rights of Donald Trump do you believe are being infringed?

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