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Nearly Half Of The US Homeless Live In California

Checkerboard Strangler said:
So you're essentially saying that you never knew EMTALA even existed.
Okay well...I guess it is time for you to go look it up and learn about it.

Yeah? Repeal EMTALA? Something you Republicans put in place?
Here's a suggestion. Seeing as how ER care costs five times what ordinary basic care costs, and is rising in cost at almost TWICE the rest of healthcare, did you know that it is much much cheaper to just expand state Medicaid to include everybody, even illegals, who constitute a large number of the folks who overcrowding the **** out of emergency rooms every day.

No one in their right mind would ever consider expansion of Medicaid programs if they knew it was much more expensive.
The whole reason it even comes up is because it is simpler and cheaper.
EMTALA is Reagan era legislation and it was never a good solution.
But the solution does not reside in going back to how it was before EMTALA.

There is no way that idea would ever work, and if you even think about the result in a serious manner, you will become quickly horrified, unless you're a pure sociopath.

If so, do any of the following statements resonate with you on a deep level?

*I fantasize about a natural disaster wiping out most of humanity such that a small group of people can start all over
*I think society should be burned to the ground
*Sometimes I just feel like destroying beautiful things
*There is no right and wrong in the world
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I knew it existed, I wasn't aware that federal funds were used for it.
 
Nap said:
I don't believe it is the responsibility of the federal government to use federal funds for any natural disaster.
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Sorry but I hate to inform you, yours is pure fringe ideology.
You cannot muster sufficient numbers to even budge the needle on that score.

What's the ultimate end game on this anyway, overthrowing the government?
Sorry but I do not envision much hope for your dream even under the most thoroughly Republican world imaginable, which by the way existed in reality, from January 2017 to January 2019.

If ever there was a time when you guys could have ramrodded something like that through, it was then.

I never saw this side of you, it's amazing.
 
Nap said:
At least we don't have to worry about drug needles and human feces on the sidewalk, now that is disgusting. :p
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At least we don't need red state dollars to help us. Oh wait, you have none to give us, and you're too busy taking our tax dollars and flushing them down the toilet.
 
Nap said:
And I don't believe they should have recieved a dime of federal funds. Tornadoes happen frequently in Mississippi and that is a danger you sign up for living in the state, it shouldn't be the responsibility of tax payers across the country to support your decision.
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Most of the money was related to major infrastructure damages.

Bridges, roads, hospitals, power grids, water treatment plants, communications towers, etc.

You don't use any of those do you?

I mean that would look bad if you did, because then you personally have benefitted.

You don't drive, use power or water, have a mobile or landline phone or ever need medical attention.

Also tornados get all the blame but hurricane damage comes in the 100's of millions a day.
 
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Nap said:
Lol, I'm not a conservative by any means...

How many votes did the ACA get from Republicans? I seem to recall them being adamantly against it.
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I don't know what that statement means these days, but I had you pegged wrong. I thought you were a connie but you're a hardcore libertarian, like...almost "frontier days pioneer style".
I'm betting you don't live in Jackson proper, you probably live a good ways out of town, right? Grew up there mostly?
You know what? I can believe something like that just might work in rural Mississippi, for about 35% of the population in rural MS.
That is a very very tiny subset of the population of the USA.

What works for about thirty-five percent of the population of rural Mississippi is never going to work for most of the people who live in the USA, which is mostly made up of people who live in cities or suburbs of cities...large cities.

Jackson is 173 thousand people. Your outlook on federal funds might work for about fifty thousand people down there.
And that's fifty thousand of the wealthiest people down there, by the way.

Good luck!
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sorry but I hate to inform you, yours is pure fringe ideology.
You cannot muster sufficient numbers to even budge the needle on that score.

What's the ultimate end game on this anyway, overthrowing the government?
Sorry but I do not envision much hope for your dream even under the most thoroughly Republican world imaginable, which by the way existed in reality, from January 2017 to January 2019.

If ever there was a time when you guys could have ramrodded something like that through, it was then.

I never saw this side of you, it's amazing.
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I never claimed I was mainstream in any way. I'm simply and individual with a wide range of stances on different positions.

I think you seem to have a misconception about what my goals or aspirations are, you are correct that it will never happen here in the US and no it is not to overthrow the government but limit the federal government to allow more power to the people to govern themselves. I'm not a fan of people that have never visited an area making decisions for the people that live there.
 
Nap said:
I knew it existed, I wasn't aware that federal funds were used for it.
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How old are you?

Have you lived in Jackson MS long?

Are you an example of the schooling available in Jackson?

You appear over and over again to be outmatched.

I'm asking to find out whether I should continue to debate you or if I should pity you.
 
Nap said:
At least we don't have to worry about drug needles and human feces on the sidewalk, now that is disgusting. :p
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That’s because those drug needles and human feces you speak of are under the trailers that plumbers encounter.
 
Nap said:
I never claimed I was mainstream in any way. I'm simply and individual with a wide range of stances on different positions.

I think you seem to have a misconception about what my goals or aspirations are, you are correct that it will never happen here in the US and no it is not to overthrow the government but limit the federal government to allow more power to the people to govern themselves. I'm not a fan of people that have never visited an area making decisions for the people that live there.
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Have you been everyplace in America?

Then why do you want to have a say in what we believe?

By your own statement you shouldn't?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I don't know what that statement means these days, but I had you pegged wrong. I thought you were a connie but you're a hardcore libertarian, like...almost "frontier days pioneer style".
I'm betting you don't live in Jackson proper, you probably live a good ways out of town, right? Grew up there mostly?
You know what? I can believe something like that just might work in rural Mississippi, for about 35% of the population in rural MS.
That is a very very tiny subset of the population of the USA.

What works for about thirty-five percent of the population of rural Mississippi is never going to work for most of the people who live in the USA, which is mostly made up of people who live in cities or suburbs of cities...large cities.

Jackson is 173 thousand people. Your outlook on federal funds might work for about fifty thousand people down there.
And that's fifty thousand of the wealthiest people down there, by the way.

Good luck!
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I wouldn't say hardcore Libertarian, but I am with them at the federal level. I just think most issues (outside of civil rights cases) should be handled locally. For instance, the civil war to end slavery and the federal government striking down segregation/jim crow were the right thing to do, I'm against stuff like federal drug laws, but have no issue if a community decides they want to outlaw heroin or marijuana.
 
Moderate Right said:
Nearly half of the U.S.’s homeless people live in one state: California - MarketWatch


I'm finally beginning to see the liberal light. I now understand that this is what liberals want - non workers mooching off of the federal government, living in a generational cycle of poverty where they can't even afford housing of any kind. And, open the borders to more illegals so they can join the crowd. If liberals wanted to fix the problem they could fix it at the state level but they won't because this is the way they want it and then blame it on the feds and on Trump and the Republicans.
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"The Golden State" After decades of Leftist Democrat rule California is no longer qualified to be called that.
 
Nap said:
I wouldn't say hardcore Libertarian, but I am with them at the federal level. I just think most issues (outside of civil rights cases) should be handled locally. For instance, the civil war to end slavery and the federal government striking down segregation/jim crow were the right thing to do, I'm against stuff like federal drug laws, but have no issue if a community decides they want to outlaw heroin or marijuana.
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A stifling patchwork of conflicting laws and myriad fiefdoms struggling from town to town, yeah that's going to work real well! :lamo
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
A stifling patchwork of conflicting laws and myriad fiefdoms struggling from town to town, yeah that's going to work real well! :lamo
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A centralized government where half the population thinks the other half is evil doesn't seem to be working well at the moment........
 
Nap said:
A centralized government where half the population thinks the other half is evil doesn't seem to be working well at the moment........
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I can't help it "half the population" has been actively reinforcing outmoded Lost Cause nonsense for 154 years.
Now that tribal nonsense is on steroids, thanks to reality show style hyper-nationalism masquerading as populism.

We always had some level of this nonsense, but I remember when for most civilized people it amounted to the level of little more than what would seem like friendly football rivalry.

Like I said, wife and I lived down in the deepest heart of Dixie for thirteen years and y'all ain't foolin' nobody.
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
Believe it or not, it actually isn't "half the country".
Half the country doesn't take it to such extremes. Hell, half the country is independents, now. More than half.
 
Moot said:
He's also coming for the donations. I heard he earned over $7 million in CA during the last election. Apparently, someone in CA must like him.
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In the last two days, Trump earned 15 million in campaign donations during his trip to CA.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I can't help it "half the population" has been actively reinforcing outmoded Lost Cause nonsense for 154 years.
Now that tribal nonsense is on steroids, thanks to reality show style hyper-nationalism masquerading as populism.

We always had some level of this nonsense, but I remember when for most civilized people it amounted to the level of little more than what would seem like friendly football rivalry.

Like I said, wife and I lived down in the deepest heart of Dixie for thirteen years and y'all ain't foolin' nobody.
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
Believe it or not, it actually isn't "half the country".
Half the country doesn't take it to such extremes. Hell, half the country is independents, now. More than half.
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And the only way to return to that is to decentralize much of the federal government. The more power and involvement the federal government becomes the worse it is going to get. Increased power and scope of the federal government is the steroid put into tribalism as it then becomes all important to have "my" guy ruling the country as opposed to "theirs". If the federal government was largely there to just protect the rights of the people and focus on foreign policy we would have much less division and more importantly less wars abroad as that would be the key policies elected into office. Sometimes it seems as if much of the division on domestic policy is intentionally instigated in order to divert attention away from the horrors our government enacts overseas.
 
Kreton said:
Just because they are in Cali doesn't mean Cali caused it. People who are homeless tend to go where it is warm. And near the ocean. Or where they think they can find work.
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The Left Wing Democrats running the State caused it.
 
It strikes me as odd that liberals who don't live in California lack the foresight to see that homelessness on a grand scale is going to come to their city, state, and zip code eventually. Today we're talking about the homeless problems in California, tomorrow it'll be Idaho, Oregon, Colorado, etc.
 
And how many of these so-called homeless are truly homeless? Most of the ones I've seen are just panhandlers looking for free money handouts.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
It is a hoot when Trumpsters come here weekly and try to make California out to be a 3rd world country... lol They have what? The 5th or so largest economy in the world.

And what do the Trumpster Republicans have? Mississippi which is 50th in everything in the US and does mooch Fed money... If it wasn't for their mooching off of California and NY, etc. Mississippi and many other red states would be a 3rd world countries...
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lol They have what? The 5th or so largest economy in the world.
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Finish the story(LOL)


California faces a $1 trillion unfunded pension liability and lawmakers focus on foam and plastic straws
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California faces a $1 trillion unfunded pension liability and lawmakers focus on foam and plastic straws – Orange County Register
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Or perhaps the other state bus their homeless to California, to get rid of their problem and make it California's

Personally I think California should give each homeless person a bus ticket, and $200 to move to Kansas. The $200 can only be accessed 2 weeks after being in Kansas.
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Me thinks it has more to do with Calif's HIGH rent/Housing cost

Be very,very quiet
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Or perhaps the other state bus their homeless to California, to get rid of their problem and make it California's

Personally I think California should give each homeless person a bus ticket, and $200 to move to Kansas. The $200 can only be accessed 2 weeks after being in Kansas.
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Or perhaps the other state bus their homeless to California, to get rid of their problem and make it California's
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Do ya think other states are also busing their Homeless to Hawaii because they have more Homeless per capita than any other state?(LOL)
 
Luther said:
Do ya think other states are also busing their Homeless to Hawaii because they have more Homeless per capita than any other state?(LOL)
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Makes you wonder if ridiculous home prices and a high cost of living contributes to homelessness, couldn't possibly be that though. /s
 
Nap said:
Makes you wonder if ridiculous home prices and a high cost of living contributes to homelessness, couldn't possibly be that though. /s
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That and good weather. Just like Hawaii
 
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