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Powerful Sand Hook Promise Video

It was in his house.

and he committed capital murder to get it. think that through again. If a death sentence is something you would earn by obtaining a weapon, that is not UNRESTRAINED as you dishonestly claimed.
 
Yeah, making decisions and laws always works best when driven by panic, emotion and irrational thinking. :roll:

If it gets the ball rolling that is fine with me
 
The equation is with the unfortunate but inevitable consequence of an unrestrained gun market. It is simply dumb to say this implies supporting that consequence. It only means you are willing to put up with it.

We don't have an "unrestrained gun market". I don't know anyone - including die-hard 2A people - who think there should be no regulations or restrictions. And, no, being against strict gun control laws against law-abiding citizens doesn't mean we're willing to put up with mass killings performed by non-law-abiding citizens.
 
This packs a real punch.

Campaign - Sandy Hook Promise

I suspect the gun worshippers among us may not like it much. But it is amazing.

The video was very moving, it does pack a general emotional punch

what is a gunworshipper?

what do you think they wont like about it?

What do you think the video should inspire?


I like the video very much and I think it shines a light on how crazy and out of control a school shooting can be, but it didnt impact my stance on guns at all. why would it??
Maybe its because i have a normal stance on guns thought . . i dont know/ . . .
 
Of course it’s true and if you aren’t willing to support the necessary restrictions then the least you can do is have the courage of your convictions to admit that the wholesale slaughter of children is the price you’re willing to pay to own a piece. Because it’s just a fact.

its not a fact at all, not even close, lying just clouds the issue

what are the "necessary restrictions"? who gets to determine those and how?
 
How about we try to save their lives?
We are. What you and your ilk don't seem to grasp is licensed/registered guns kill just as dead. If the shooter drops that gun after shooting it MAY help solve the crime, but the victim is still dead. Give the huge percentage of mass shootings done with legally obtained guns adding licensing/registration wouldn't deter anyone.
 
How about we try to save their lives?

......by focusing on the PEOPLE who want to use the inanimate objects to hurt them instead of pretending the inanimate objects themselves are the problem.
 
I watched the video this morning. Nicole Hockley was a guest on MSNBC this morning and showed it. She lost her 6-year-old son, Dylan in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook School.

1.) I applaud men and women whose children were murdered at Sandy Hook for getting out and being activists for gun control.
2.) It's been a horrible time for those parents, many of whom have been targets of hatred. When a parent's child has had their body ripped into pieces in a horrible death, those parents shouldn't be subjected to hate mongering, threats on their lives and media scrutiny and judgements.
3.) Jeremy Richman was the father of 5 year old Avielle Richman who was murdered at Sandy Hook. Richman founded the Avielle Foundation, dedicated to preventing violence and building compassion through brain research, community engagement and education.
4.) Jeremy Richman committed suicide last March. He suffered survivor guilt and PTSD. Jeremy Richman was the 3rd such suicide. Just days earlier, the city of Parkland, Florida, was rocked by two apparent suicides involving survivors of a gunman's rampage on Valentine's Day 2018 that killed 17 students and staff at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
5.) Why are parents and family of slain children forced to pick up the gauntlet and fight for gun legislation when this should be a bipartisan issue? It shouldn't be a political tug of war between the NRA, Congress, the family of victims and the American public. This should be an easy choice,
6.)YES we need new gun legislation even if it's just something palliative that the Congress comes up with to quiet down the uproar until the next mass murder. Do something, even if it's just for show.
7.) But Jesus Christ, people need to come together on this issue. Kids are being traumatized by the fears of being murdered in their classrooms. I hardly recognize this country anymore, it's not the same one I grew up in.

1.) agreed nothing wrong with supporting causes in general
2.) in general that should never happen but i dont know what all the parents are doing
3.) that sounds awesome, good steps to take and a good thing to do
4.) so very sad, i wished they would of got/found the help they needed or another way
5.) well unfortunately thats how many things happen in this country. Theres a reason why narcan is so available and insulin is going up and up. I agree it should be bipartisan BUT you need bipartisan ideas not ideas totally one sides one way or another and i see that alot.
6.) actually no, thats what a law should never be, just for show and palliative, that can actually cause more harm than good
7.) that i agree with but again it takes both sides working on something real and the reality is many ideas floated around arent going to do anything
 
and he committed capital murder to get it. think that through again. If a death sentence is something you would earn by obtaining a weapon, that is not UNRESTRAINED as you dishonestly claimed.

Sorry, but, believe it or not, his dead mother was not the national market.
 
We don't have an "unrestrained gun market". I don't know anyone - including die-hard 2A people - who think there should be no regulations or restrictions. And, no, being against strict gun control laws against law-abiding citizens doesn't mean we're willing to put up with mass killings performed by non-law-abiding citizens.

All right. How about a loosely restrained gun market by comparison to the Western democracies we like to compare ourselves to and which have nothing like the gun violence we have.
 
Sorry, but, believe it or not, his dead mother was not the national market.

sandy hook has no value in terms of claiming a "failure" of current laws
 
All right. How about a loosely restrained gun market by comparison to the Western democracies we like to compare ourselves to and which have nothing like the gun violence we have.

You mean we have constitutional rights and nanny states do not, and left-wingers are mad that we gun owners vote against the facade that gun control laws concocted by lefties are designed to control real criminals?
 
This packs a real punch.

Campaign - Sandy Hook Promise

I suspect the gun worshippers among us may not like it much. But it is amazing.

The following page was linked directly from the page you linked to:

Sandy Hook Promise and Bark Partner to Help Protect Children Nationwide - Sandy Hook Promise

In 2015, Bark launched its flagship product, Bark for Families, which monitors text messages, emails, YouTube, and 24+ social media platforms for issues like cyberbullying, online predators, adult content, depression, acts of violence, suicidal ideation, and more.

It seems that people on the left will instinctively, automatically, and without hesitation endorse any possible intrusion of government bureaucracy into people's personal lives. The vaguer (e.g. "depression") the better.
 
Leftist Authoritarians using sadness, despair and other emotions caused by a tragedy to disarm Law Abiding Real Americans.

Taking goose liver pate off the menu at a restaurant does not mean you are being starved.
 
Massive emotional scare tactic. Probably will do more damage than it will prevent.

Actually it is a scene from reality that is only being recreated for the camera.
 
Yeah, making decisions and laws always works best when driven by panic, emotion and irrational thinking. :roll:

People have and use their emotions. It is part of what makes us human. Even the hard right has them.
 
The video was very moving, it does pack a general emotional punch

what is a gunworshipper?

what do you think they wont like about it?

What do you think the video should inspire?


I like the video very much and I think it shines a light on how crazy and out of control a school shooting can be, but it didnt impact my stance on guns at all. why would it??
Maybe its because i have a normal stance on guns thought . . i dont know/ . . .

Just look at the hostile reaction from some gun fanatics in this thread and it clearly answers your questions.
 
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