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NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll: Biden & Warren UP, Harris takes a major nose dive

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For The Record - I only post polls from DNC approved sources. This is the third national poll this month and the first to come out post third debate:

NBC NEWS / WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL (September 13th to September 16th)

1. Joe Biden - 31% (Gained 5% from the last NBC/WSJ poll)
2. Elizabeth Warren - 25% (Gained 6% from the last one)
3. Bernie Sanders - 14% (Gained 1%)
4. Pete Buttigieg - 7%
5. Kamala Harris - 5% (Went down by 8%)
6. Andrew Yang - 4% (Was at 2% last time)
7. Cory Booker & Amy Klobuchar - 2%
9. Michael Bennett, Julian Castro, Tulsi Gabbard, Beto O'Rourke & Tom Steyer 1%

Good news for both Biden and Warren. They are up from the last NBC/WSJ poll. We might be seeing signs of Sanders falling off the wagon here. Harris' campaign had one great month, and has really looked awful since then. The Yang gang continues to get stronger and stronger.

Your thoughts?
 
Warren's killing it. Her crowds are growing, her polls are rising, her message and rhetoric are sharpening. It may well be that winning the nomination is yet another thing she has a plan for.
 
I would like to see Gabbard to better, she is the only Den candidate I could see myself voting for. If she drops out before my states primary I plan to vote Biden for the comedy he would bring to the election agianst Trump. Warren would make me reconsider voting 3rd party in the general.
 
Harris sucks.



Good Lord, Buttgieg would be great. But we can't have nice things in this country, can we?
 
The biggest job of the next President will be restoring dignity and respect, world wide, to the office. Joe Biden has the best credentials to do that. Warren is making a good run and could over take Biden or at least give him a run for his money. It's early yet but it seems those with sensible policies are rising to the top. Right now it looks like a Biden/Warren ticket would make the best team to upset trump. But who knows what will happen by the end of the primaries. If Warren gets the nod I think, at this point, she would do well to pick Buttigieg; that would be another very strong ticket. I think the Democrats have a much better than good chance of unseating tRump. Once we're past the craziness of such a deep field and settle down to REAL rhetoric and they have a firm platform the sensibility of a Democratic ticket will be apparent, as will the senselessness of reelecting this narcissistic maniac that has fostered so much divisiveness in our country.
 
BrotherFease said:
For The Record - I only post polls from DNC approved sources. This is the third national poll this month and the first to come out post third debate:

NBC NEWS / WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL (September 13th to September 16th)

1. Joe Biden - 31% (Gained 5% from the last NBC/WSJ poll)
2. Elizabeth Warren - 25% (Gained 6% from the last one)
3. Bernie Sanders - 14% (Gained 1%)
4. Pete Buttigieg - 7%
5. Kamala Harris - 5% (Went down by 8%)
6. Andrew Yang - 4% (Was at 2% last time)
7. Cory Booker & Amy Klobuchar - 2%
9. Michael Bennett, Julian Castro, Tulsi Gabbard, Beto O'Rourke & Tom Steyer 1%

Good news for both Biden and Warren. They are up from the last NBC/WSJ poll. We might be seeing signs of Sanders falling off the wagon here. Harris' campaign had one great month, and has really looked awful since then. The Yang gang continues to get stronger and stronger.

Your thoughts?
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This explains why Gabbard is spouting off about Trump...

Tulsi Gabbard Rips Trump: Acting Like 'Saudi Arabia's Bitch'

Tulsi Gabbard Shreds Trump for 'Pimping Out' US Military

She's sucking hind tit and she's desperate to find a way to keep in the race.
 
Greenbeard said:
Warren's killing it. Her crowds are growing, her polls are rising, her message and rhetoric are sharpening. It may well be that winning the nomination is yet another thing she has a plan for.
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Plus she landed the Working Families Party Endorsement who backed Bernie in 2016.
 
Greenbeard said:
Warren's killing it. Her crowds are growing, her polls are rising, her message and rhetoric are sharpening. It may well be that winning the nomination is yet another thing she has a plan for.
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Yep. For the past 3.5 months, we have seen Warren continuing to go up in the polls. She started off in June at 11%, and now is averaging 20% in September. I fully expect the Bernie Bros to jump ship and favor Warren.
 
azgreg said:
Plus she landed the Working Families Party Endorsement who backed Bernie in 2016.
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Warren is Harvard. Therefore it will be Warren. It is that simple.
 
BrotherFease said:
Yep. For the past 3.5 months, we have seen Warren continuing to go up in the polls. She started off in June at 11%, and now is averaging 20% in September. I fully expect the Bernie Bros to jump ship and favor Warren.
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Sanders is going to go to at least Iowa. He has a good chance to win there and/or New Hampshire, and then he'll want to win his home state of Vermont before dropping out, which could take him to Super Tuesday.

One thing that's clear from the polls is where each candidate is likely to draw eventual support.

Warren is going to get the support of Sanders, Yang, O'Rourke, and likely Booker and Gabbard, and if ALL of them got out of the race after Iowa that would put her in the mid 40's in the polls, and very capable of winning the primary.

Biden will get the support of Delaney, Bennett, and Klobuchar, but that's only a like 4% of the vote. The question is where the support of Harris and Buttigieg will go, as that's a must win for Biden, which I suspect he will get the majority of in the end.

I'd say the math still favors Biden.
 
joko104 said:
Warren is Harvard. Therefore it will be Warren. It is that simple.
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It will be Biden if Clinton doesn't announce. He is also the only one polling over 50% in the RCP against Trump for the head to head matchups. For whatever it is worth, they also have Mayor Pete beating Trump by over 2% so I don't put a lot of stock in their numbers beyond just showing where the trends are going over time. Also Warren taught at Harvard. She didn't go there.
 
Greenbeard said:
Warren's killing it. Her crowds are growing, her polls are rising, her message and rhetoric are sharpening. It may well be that winning the nomination is yet another thing she has a plan for.
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Anyone see Maddow tonight? Warren was her guest.
She refused to toss Bernie under the bus and did her move deftly and courteously, citing instead their long friendship, and the fact that this time around a LOT of people are energized, and "everybody's out there".

But Bernie's been pressing a lot of flesh and pushing hard to raise attention and money, and he only got a measly one percent bump for all his efforts of the last two months. I realize that some of his most staunch loyalists will revolt but I think an awful lot of them will gravitate to Warren if he folds.
And I wager that will put her well past Joseph R. Biden.
 
azgreg said:
Plus she landed the Working Families Party Endorsement who backed Bernie in 2016.
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Ah. See I think Bernie will drop out soon and endorse Warren. I think that will be easier for him and his bros to swallow than a Clinton endorsement ever was. I mean he did do that eventually but Warren and Bernie seem friendlier.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Anyone see Maddow tonight? Warren was her guest.
She refused to toss Bernie under the bus and did her move deftly and courteously, citing instead their long friendship, and the fact that this time around a LOT of people are energized, and "everybody's out there".

But Bernie's been pressing a lot of flesh and pushing hard to raise attention and money, and he only got a measly one percent bump for all his efforts of the last two months. I realize that some of his most staunch loyalists will revolt but I think an awful lot of them will gravitate to Warren if he folds.
And I wager that will put her well past Joseph R. Biden.
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It would def be easier for the Bernie Bros. That's for sure. I see some of them talking Warren in a more positive way every day.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
She refused to toss Bernie under the bus and did her move deftly and courteously, citing instead their long friendship, and the fact that this time around a LOT of people are energized, and "everybody's out there".
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That's a good strategy on her part. She wants the Bernie Bros to change their mind, and vote for her. She figures attacking Saint Bernard will not move the needle for her.
 
Irwin Corey said:
Biden/Warren ticket would make the best team to upset trump
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... or rather Warren/Biden. As other posters pointed out, accounting for supporters of Bernie and other candidates, Warren would be far ahead of Biden if rest dropped out.
 
Slavister said:
... or rather Warren/Biden. As other posters pointed out, accounting for supporters of Bernie and other candidates, Warren would be far ahead of Biden if rest dropped out.
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Biden is unlikely to accept another VP nod that's why I suggested Warren/Buttigieg.
 
azgreg said:
Plus she landed the Working Families Party Endorsement who backed Bernie in 2016.
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To be fair, WFP also wanted to endorse Warren in 2016 if she ran and pushed a campaign to get her to announce. Warren in 2016 failed to endorse Bernie, which was a shame, given that Sanders did specifcially advise her he would not run if she did.

Her endorsing of HRC is a stain on her record in my eyes. HRC embodied none of the policies Warren has ever promoted - EXCEPT Single Payer, which HRC did fight for in the 90's; the ACA is simply a copy paste of the republican counter to HRC's proposed SP system; the HEART ACT.
 
Greenbeard said:
Warren's killing it. Her crowds are growing, her polls are rising, her message and rhetoric are sharpening. It may well be that winning the nomination is yet another thing she has a plan for.
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Her star is absolutely in ascension.
 
BrotherFease said:
That's a good strategy on her part. She wants the Bernie Bros to change their mind, and vote for her. She figures attacking Saint Bernard will not move the needle for her.
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If she attacks Bernie she loses the base and probably the nomination. No doubt, she needs any of the Bernie folks to embrace her if she has a hope to beat Biden; but I think the same is true for Sanders.

Time will tell.

The biggest part of the challenge here is thinning the herd.

Gabbard, Booker, Harris, Yang, Klobuchar, O'Rourke and Castro should drop.

Pete, Biden, Warren, Sanders in the next debate.

This is the primary time when voters begin to pay attention. The conversation among all dems, with the exception of Biden, has already shifted leftward in a way that was not imagined before.

As a Bernie voter, I will vote for -whoever- the nominee is, but will be voting for, donating to, and supporting Bernie until the nomination is complete.
 
Mr Person said:
Harris sucks.



Good Lord, Buttgieg would be great. But we can't have nice things in this country, can we?
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I used to be on the Harris train, but the simple fact of the matter is that she’s demonstrated precisely zero clarity in her messaging. Everybody knows what Warren is for and what she’ll do when she enters the White House (after fumigating it, of course). What the hell is Harris going to do? Does she know?
 
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