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The Trayvon Martin hoax.

KLATTU said:
Please list.
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Please stop RUNNING and stay on subject. If you want to RE-debate the merits of Kavanaugh for a lifetime seat on the USSC....start a new thread and I'll consider joining.

In the meantime, answer a few questions about your own thread, please:

-Why did you post (and defend) an OP from a white nationalist publication...about a book from a notorious right wing conspiracy theorist from the Infowars "family"?
-Why do you think it is the case that all of your OP's get discredited so quickly?
-Do you consider yourself to be a white nationalist?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... that must be why they make such excellent husbands and fathers. ;)
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That's shameful...I expect better from you.

And yes, I'm sure you dont care.
 
KLATTU said:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/the_trayvon_hoax__a_fraud_on_america.html
"At the heart of the case was a mysterious witness, a young black woman known only as Diamond or Witness # 8. She was on the phone with Trayvon immediately before he was shot and killed by Zimmerman who, while yelling for help, acted in desperate self-defense after being sucker punched by the larger and stronger Trayvon who broke his nose and was dangerously pounding his head into the concrete pavement.

Diamond’s true identity before, during and after the trial (which ultimately exonerated Zimmerman) was carefully hidden by the Trayvon team and Florida prosecutors who knew the accusations against Zimmerman had nothing to do with justice -- they were about politics and money. Only if Zimmerman was brought to trial, could there be lawsuits and possible financial gain.

At the trial, Diamond was called as a key witness to convince the jury that Zimmerman had been stalking an innocent young Trayvon because he was black. The witness who came to the stand as Diamond and Witness #8 was Rachel Jeantel, a Haitian/American teenager who had been enrolled in a school program for students with intellectual disabilities. She badly perjured herself. “Those who countenanced Rachel’s participation by allowing her to testify are guilty of cruelly exploiting someone with disabilities to get an arrest.” Her perjury “changed the course of race relations in the United States. Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder. There would have been no charge of murder and no arrest without Rachel’s lies being entered as sworn testimony.”

With extensive and highly biased coverage of the trial by ABC reporter Matt Gutman and other irresponsible media, those in the legal system ignored available evidence, which Gilbert subsequently uncovered, showing Rachel Jeantel was not Diamond, the girl who had been on the phone with Trayvon just before he was killed. She was fraudulently substituted long before the trial for the real Diamond. But why? Who arranged it? How did they get away with it?
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I've followed your posts long enough to know you're a racist. So it's no surprise you think a young Black kid who was running away from an armed man stalking him is to blame for being shot by the stalker.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I've followed your posts long enough to know you're a racist. So it's no surprise you think a young Black kid who was running away from an armed man stalking him is to blame for being shot by the stalker.
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And that's really the bottom line, here.

The Trayvon Martin murder brought a lot of bigots and racists out into the public. It wasn't "divisive". Angry white conservatives were already angry and 'divided" from the rest of the country. It didn't create these people. They just used it, and (as we can see in this thread) continue to use it, as a rally cry for the cowardly brand the "new" white nationalism that we're seeing today. Trump is part of it, but he's just their voice.
 
ultmd said:
And that's really the bottom line, here.

The Trayvon Martin murder brought a lot of bigots and racists out into the public. It wasn't "divisive". Angry white conservatives were already angry and 'divided" from the rest of the country. It didn't create these people. They just used it, and (as we can see in this thread) continue to use it, as a rally cry for the cowardly brand the "new" white nationalism that we're seeing today. Trump is part of it, but he's just their voice.
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And these conservative racists who always claim that people have a right to defend themselves don't seem to think that a Black boy being chased down by an armed man at night for no reason has any right to defend himself.
 
akyron said:
Black people and other minorities have been merely resources to exploit for democrats for a long long time. We all look the same to democrats...
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You think if Treyvon were a little White boy running from some Black man with a gun that the Black man with a gun would have been found not guilty? LOL

It's not a complicated case. Martin wasn't involved in any crime. He was just on his way home when he was stalked by Zimmerman, a man with a gun. Martin had every right to feel threatened and to defend himself. Zimmerman had no right to chase him and stalk him.

Try to imagine a man stalking you in the dark on your way home.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Statistical facts don't have shame or conform to political correctness.

CNN's Don Lemon says more than 72 percent of African-American births are out of wedlock | PolitiFact
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Statistics can be used in misleading ways. You're not comparing apples to apples.

Group A is poorer than Group B. So naturally, group A will have more out-of-wedlock births and other dysfunctions. Race and other attributes of the groups are coincidental.

If I take a group of poor Whites in Appalachia and compare them to middle-class Blacks in New York would that be statistically honest? Could I then conclude that White men are bad fathers?
 
What I remember most of the Trayvon Martin thing was NBC(?) editing the 911 call to make it look like Zimmerman told them he was black without being asked, for the express purpose of making Zimmerman look racist.

Zimmerman was also half Hispanic, and they tried to pass him off as full white for more racial effect.

Kawontay Witherspoon, 19, got shot in Baltimore on the 6th. His shooter wasn't white (or half white like Zimmerman) so no one cares. Sorry Kawontay, but it appears your life wasn't worth squat.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Statistics can be used in misleading ways. You're not comparing apples to apples.

Group A is poorer than Group B. So naturally, group A will have more out-of-wedlock births and other dysfunctions. Race and other attributes of the groups are coincidental.

If I take a group of poor Whites in Appalachia and compare them to middle-class Blacks in New York would that be statistically honest? Could I then conclude that White men are bad fathers?
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Hispanics are only slightly less poor than blacks, yet have a significantly better single mother rate. This suggests a cultural difference unrelated to poverty. Blacks are also much more violent than Hispanics, given that their poverty rates are so similar.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
You think if Treyvon were a little White boy running from some Black man with a gun that the Black man with a gun would have been found not guilty? LOL

It's not a complicated case. Martin wasn't involved in any crime. He was just on his way home when he was stalked by Zimmerman, a man with a gun. Martin had every right to feel threatened and to defend himself. Zimmerman had no right to chase him and stalk him.

Try to imagine a man stalking you in the dark on your way home.
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Bizzaroworld interpretation of events. Thankfully in the world inhabited by normals., the real facts came out in the trial.
 
Yet another despicable racist wingnut hate post.
 
I wonder when the crack reporters over at the NYT ( SNICKER) are going to discredit this storry?

Any guesses?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
And these conservative racists who always claim that people have a right to defend themselves don't seem to think that a Black boy being chased down by an armed man at night for no reason has any right to defend himself.
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Yep.

And most of these conservative racists are either too ignorant (of their own history), or just too young to remember that it was their side (i.e. the NRA and their white trash ancestors) who advocated for, and passed restrictive state and federal gun laws in the 1960's. But that was because in the 60's, it was the Black Panthers who were exploiting the 2nd Amendment to open-carry in the name of self-defense.

But it would be too much to ask these mouth-breathers to READ about laws like the '68 Gun Control Act, the Mulford Act, etc. etc.

These are people who are basically ineducable, because their ideology depends upon rejecting facts, history, science and, in general, objective truths.
 
KLATTU said:
Bizzaroworld interpretation of events. Thankfully in the world inhabited by normals., the real facts came out in the trial.
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Classic example of the "Bizzarowold" that possesses the brains of people like you.

The facts of the Martin/Zimmerman trial came out, and the ONLY people who believe justice was served, are white conservative racists and white nationalist sympathizers, like you.

That said, KLATTU....stop running and start answering the questions presented to you in this thread. Don't be a message board coward. Defend your arguments, or hush up. Come on...Let's those 'nads drop.
 
The only people who didn't think justice was served were minorities, and pandering white liberals, but those folks tend not to look at facts.

You know , the people who believed " Hands up don't shoot" and " I can't breathe".
 
ultmd said:
Yep.

And most of these conservative racists are either too ignorant (of their own history), or just too young to remember that it was their side (i.e. the NRA and their white trash ancestors) who advocated for, and passed restrictive state and federal gun laws in the 1960's. But that was because in the 60's, it was the Black Panthers who were exploiting the 2nd Amendment to open-carry in the name of self-defense.

But it would be too much to ask these mouth-breathers to READ about laws like the '68 Gun Control Act, the Mulford Act, etc. etc.

These are people who are basically ineducable, because their ideology depends upon rejecting facts, history, science and, in general, objective truths.
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LOL, the best way to get gun control passed is to arm Black people.
 
KLATTU said:
The only people who didn't think justice was served were minorities, and pandering white liberals, but those folks tend not to look at facts.

You know , the people who believed " Hands up don't shoot" and " I can't breathe".
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I'm sure you would be fine with some guy following you home at night. Maybe you would stop and say, "Hey, sir. Why are you following me? Oh, you think I'm criminal? No, I'm just a kid walking home."

The bottom line is an unarmed kid was just walking home when some nut with a gun mistook him for a criminal and began stalking him. There was a confrontation and the stalker shot him. But in your twisted thinking, the armed stalker is the victim.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
LOL, the best way to get gun control passed is to arm Black people.
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History agrees.

Similarly, the best way to get America to demand direct action/intervention in the fight against opioid abuse and addiction is to wait for the epidemic to focus acutely on white middle class families and white rural America, rather than just "urban" communities. Oxycontin and Meth are the new Crack Cocaine. Cocaine is still the main problem in those "urban" communities; but because Oxy and Meth are devastating middle class, suburban/rural white families (and not so much "urban" communities)....we're seeing what is going to become a MAJOR dedication of federal and state resources to curb this plague.

But we're not going to lock up the millions of dealing, abusing and addicted young white people involved in the Oxy/Meth epidemic. We're going to go after some of corporate entities, as well as the suppliers and the families who are profiting from it.

Simply put, white lives mean more than black/brown lives in our society.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I'm sure you would be fine with some guy following you home at night. Maybe you would stop and say, "Hey, sir. Why are you following me? Oh, you think I'm criminal? No, I'm just a kid walking home."
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:lamo
First...he'd soil himself.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I'm sure you would be fine with some guy following you home at night. Maybe you would stop and say, "Hey, sir. Why are you following me? Oh, you think I'm criminal? No, I'm just a kid walking home."

The bottom line is an unarmed kid was just walking home when some nut with a gun mistook him for a criminal and began stalking him. There was a confrontation and the stalker shot him. But in your twisted thinking, the armed stalker is the victim.
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If that's what actually happened, Zimmerman would have been convicted , It didn't so he wasn't.

End of story.
 
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