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Trump is Close to War

jnug said:
GM workers on strike. The world is crumbling under DonDon's feet. That is the REAL danger here because DonDon himself is the real danger everywhere!
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Lets not forget hurricanes,earthquakes,forest fires,the shootings in Chicago,Eddie Moneys death,cancer,Ben Rothelsberger and Drew Brees injuries,all Trumps fault.
 
gulfman said:
Lets not forget hurricanes,earthquakes,forest fires,the shootings in Chicago,Eddie Moneys death,cancer,Ben Rothelsberger and Drew Brees injuries,all Trumps fault.
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Gee I think it was DonDon that said no more plants would be closing.....Ah-huh. The Dems will be running those videos over and over and over again.

Trump has been in over his head from election night to this night and now its all starting to come home to roost all at once. He has done nothing in office but try to enrich himself and run for re-election. Those are the only two things plus deregulation he has done "successfully" and deregulation has been handled poorly, corruptly, with the common sense of an earthworm.

As for hurricanes and fires, its DonDon that is the Climate Change denier. Its DonDon that dances back and forth over the gun control issue like a puppet allowing the NRA to pull his strings.
 
It's all fun and games for their leaders when nations engage in proxy wars. The innocents they kill are 'them', not 'us'. It's another matter entirely when 'them' strike back. Time, perhaps, to remember that the word 'infantry' has an etymology. And, while we're at it, Kipling's famous lines also speak to paying a price. Curiously, it's almost never paid by the leaders of major nations.

"For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;"

Tommy, Rudyard Kipling.
 
Bullseye said:
Iran is the principal supporter and supplier to the Yemeni rebels. SA his the surveillance equipment to determine where the drones came from ( US does too) Likely our guys and SA folks are conferring on the origin of the attacks.
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Lol sure. Funny how no one is talking about the local rebels that have been around for 40 years....naw it has to be Iran or some Yemeni guy thousands of KM away...not locals that among other things have bombed US interests before...

No doubt that Trump could and would use this as an excuse for action against Iran regardless of the truth..

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Bullseye said:
I'm wondering if he's using these Tweets to warn Iran to cool it.
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He tweets to troll people, but it seems the leaders of the world have yet to figure it out...
 
PoS said:
He tweets to troll people, but it seems the leaders of the world have yet to figure it out...
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The WH statement the very first week Trump took office was that Trump tweets were official statements from the President of the United States. So sorry....if he is simply trolling then that may actually be worse than meaning the horse dung he tweets.
 
jnug said:
Gee I think it was DonDon that said no more plants would be closing.....Ah-huh. The Dems will be running those videos over and over and over again.

Trump has been in over his head from election night to this night and now its all starting to come home to roost all at once. He has done nothing in office but try to enrich himself and run for re-election. Those are the only two things plus deregulation he has done "successfully" and deregulation has been handled poorly, corruptly, with the common sense of an earthworm.

As for hurricanes and fires, its DonDon that is the Climate Change denier. Its DonDon that dances back and forth over the gun control issue like a puppet allowing the NRA to pull his strings.
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I recall the 'what the hell am I supposed to do now?' look on Trump's face after Obama gave him the tour. He looked positively shell-shocked. Isn't it odd that, after endlessly squealing that the entire election process was 'rigged', we never heard a word about fraudulent activity once he got the job. He evidently cares not a whit for fraud; the Trump 'university' is clear evidence he is happy to embrace it.
 
Airyaman said:
Always a tweet!

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Saudi Arabia should fight their own wars, which they won't, or pay us an absolute fortune to protect them and their great wealth-$ trillion!"
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How trumpian of him. Earth to DonDon. Just because all you and your IDIOT son-in-law see is Princes and kings does not mean that Saudi is rolling in prosperity. They aren't. All WE care about is their petrochemical products. All YOU care about is their ability to run up a nice hotel bill.

We made the deal with the devil to help protect Saudi oil assets ions ago because it was in the WEST'S interest to help Saudi protect them. But since you no longer believe in the world order, nobody knows who is on first, what is on second and third base.....I DON"T KNOW!
 
PoS said:
He tweets to troll people, but it seems the leaders of the world have yet to figure it out...
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Hi! It's my guess, and you're free to naysay it, of course, that the leaders of Russia, Iran, Israel and several other nations are well aware of the probable psychological diagnosis for President of the United States of America Donald Trump based on his statements and actions. The cost to them of having a top flight psychologist or two on staff is minimal compared to the benefit gained from insight into where the President is 'coming from'. In addition, insight into the best course of action in manipulating him isn't something to be bypassed.

Regards.
 
Torus34 said:
Hi! It's my guess, and you're free to naysay it, of course, that the leaders of Russia, Iran, Israel and several other nations are well aware of the probable psychological diagnosis for President of the United States of America Donald Trump based on his statements and actions. The cost to them of having a top flight psychologist or two on staff is minimal compared to the benefit gained from insight into where the President is 'coming from'. In addition, insight into the best course of action in manipulating him isn't something to be bypassed.

Regards.
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Really? I think it's more a question of who's actually manipulating who. Time will tell.
 
marke said:
The Bible gives clear indications that the world will go to war in the Middle East during the last days. People can blame it on Trump if they like.
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That's because the men who concocted the bible were from the mideast.. Had the men who concocted the bible been from Antarctica, this 'alleged war' would 'allegedly' take place in Antarctica.
 
marke said:
The Bible gives clear indications that the world will go to war in the Middle East during the last days. People can blame it on Trump if they like.
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The level of ignorance in the above post is astounding. The only thing more ignorant is the Bible itself, as in its ignorance of the New World, Southeast Asia, Europe, and Kangaroos. How come this book of "great" knowledge didn't know about Kangaroos?

It can predict the end of the world, but knowing anything about kangaroos was over god's head. :roll:
 
"Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a weak man's idea of a strong man."

What a great summation of the cult...
 
Grandpappy said:
Really? I think it's more a question of who's actually manipulating who. Time will tell.
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Hi! There's no reason to believe that those rating high on the scale of narcissism are not manipulative. They can be very good at it. There's a risk of impulsive behavior, though. This is especially true when sociopathology is added to the mix. It is this impulsive response pattern that can be used against the individual. As you say, time will tell. Let's hope that the price paid will not be too great.

Regards.
 
NeverTrump said:
Trump is very close to starting WWIII by tweet.

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I'm not saying he will (if he does he will) I'm saying it's very close.
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What everyone needs to realize is that everything that is happening with Iran is because Trump cancelled the agreement that Obama had done with them.

If he had not cancelled the agreement, none of this would be happening.

My questions are:

1) what benefits did anyone get from cancelling the agreement?
2) is the now real possibility of a new mideast war been worth Trump's decision to cancel?
3) a lot of things about the economy will be affected negatively if a new mideast war breaks out. Did Trump or the "yes" lackeys around him think of the possible consequences before they made the decision?
4) is this not more proof of Trump's total incompetence?
 
PoS said:
He tweets to troll people, but it seems the leaders of the world have yet to figure it out...
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He also Tweets to get stuff out undistorted or ignored by the lib media.
 
Luckyone said:
What everyone needs to realize is that everything that is happening with Iran is because Trump cancelled the agreement that Obama had done with them.

If he had not cancelled the agreement, none of this would be happening.

My questions are:

1) what benefits did anyone get from cancelling the agreement?
2) is the now real possibility of a new mideast war been worth Trump's decision to cancel?
3) a lot of things about the economy will be affected negatively if a new mideast war breaks out. Did Trump or the "yes" lackeys around him think of the possible consequences before they made the decision?
4) is this not more proof of Trump's total incompetence?
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What everyone needs to realize that while you profess to be an astute analyst and advisor when it comes to anything remotely associated with Trump you lose all objectivity and rationality in favor of just generating more meaningless effluvia.
 
PeteEU said:
Lol sure. Funny how no one is talking about the local rebels that have been around for 40 years....naw it has to be Iran or some Yemeni guy thousands of KM away...not locals that among other things have bombed US interests before...

No doubt that Trump could and would use this as an excuse for action against Iran regardless of the truth..

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I seriously doubt those local rebels have the expertise to target and conduct multiple sophisticated air attacks. Oh, and the Persian Gulf and Straight of Hormuz is probably one of the most surveilled areas in the world. This wasn't a guess.
 
Bullseye said:
I seriously doubt those local rebels have the expertise to target and conduct multiple sophisticated air attacks. Oh, and the Persian Gulf and Straight of Hormuz is probably one of the most surveilled areas in the world. This wasn't a guess.
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1) They would know where and what to strike. Most likely worked at the facilities or knew someone there who did.
2) Buying or getting a drone.. hell building one is pretty easy.
 
PeteEU said:
1) They would know where and what to strike. Most likely worked at the facilities or knew someone there who did.
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Not quite that easy.
PeteEU said:
2) Buying or getting a drone.. hell building one is pretty easy.
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These are outcast rebels, not oil gazillionaires. Buy some counts 15-20 drones were involved.


And, once again, we and our allies closely monitor air activity throughout the region.
 
Bullseye said:
Not quite that easy.
These are outcast rebels, not oil gazillionaires.
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LOL.. yea sure. You clearly dont understand much about Saudi Arabia and the internal politics. Many of the "rebels" against the Saudi King are in fact very very rich.

Buy some counts 15-20 drones were involved.
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Yea that is exactly what the Saudis and Americans would say. Regardless even if there was, it would be easy to get such drones.

And, once again, we and our allies closely monitor air activity throughout the region.
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You do understand that you dont have to be 100s of KM away to launch such an attack.... if you are local.

Oh and before you go all mad.. I lived in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for 15 years.. including in that area that was hit.
 
It should have been clear to anybody that could read a map that the attacks would likely have originated either from Iraq or from Iran. Iraq more likely than Iran which does not let Iran off the hook by any means.

If either the US or Saudi had definitive evidence we would be seeing it by now. Trump clearly does not give a rats behind about letting the world see the results of our surveillance capabilities first hand. The best the US government has been able to tell us so far is that they have "evidence that the attacks were staged in Iran". Big whoops, anybody could have guessed that much.

The attacks were at about 3:30AM Saudi time. That means we have been close to three day full days since the attacks and we have seen NOTHING in the way of hardware. No drone parts....no bomb fragments....NOTHING. No drone parts because the Saudi's were caught with their robes around their ankles. This late into the process even if the Saudi's produce something claiming it was from these attacks, nobody will believe it and nobody believes a single word that comes out of the US government any longer. Thank you DonDon.

So there is no way the US will be able to justify military intervention in the form of a retaliatory strike. Saudi will have to handle that on its own if it chooses to do so. Pretty smart on the part of the Iranians as they really have both Saudi and the US boxed. There is no definitive proof that the attacks were launched from Iran and there likely isn't any. Yammering about staging and all that crap is just that...crap. Won't give Trump cover for a retaliatory strike. How does that taste Orange Wild Man...Mr Bluster.

While our hands are pretty much tied on a retaliatory strike. Where was the Trump administration with all its military and defense assets when we should have been helping Saudi to protect those oil assets......checking Saudi hotel room invoices at Trump's DC hotel?

THIS is what happens when there is no longer a world order led by the United States and a President that tweets out that the US would charge "millions" to help Saudi protect oil reserves that have strategic import for the West including the United States. Smooth DonDon....Real Smooth. We can't retaliate militarily nor should we. However the old saw...an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure applies here. Benjamin Franklin said that DonDon and no, he is not a professor at Georgetown U.
 
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