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    Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    The 2016 election was a dumpster fire. I almost didn't vote, but ended up pulling for Clinton because she signed on to much of the platform Bernie wrote. And for a few other reasons.

    I can't and won't vote for Biden under any circumstances. He's demonstrably worse than Clinton in every way. And yes, while Biden is better than Trump, the calculation is not sufficient to get me on Biden's team. What sealed it for me was the last debate.

    His suggestion that black people don't know how to raise their children was just out-and-out racist, and his answer from then veered into an incoherent ramble on Venezuela. If this is the best Dems can do, I'm out. Let the moderates save the country from Trump, if they can.

    Biden's incoherent ramble...

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    Nina Turner's epic response.
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    The 2016 election was a dumpster fire. I almost didn't vote, but ended up pulling for Clinton because she signed on to much of the platform Bernie wrote. And for a few other reasons.

    I can't and won't vote for Biden under any circumstances. He's demonstrably worse than Clinton in every way. And yes, while Biden is better than Trump, the calculation is not sufficient to get me on Biden's team. What sealed it for me was the last debate.

    His suggestion that black people don't know how to raise their children was just out-and-out racist, and his answer from then veered into an incoherent ramble on Venezuela. If this is the best Dems can do, I'm out. Let the moderates save the country from Trump, if they can.

    Biden's incoherent ramble...

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    Nina Turner's epic response.
    Hello, I'm a big supporter of DSA politics as well, I did not vote for Clinton, but, I will probably end up voting for Biden in the general election, if he is the nominee. The country can't stomach another 4 years of Federalist Society judges being placed on the bench. And you can bet your ass that war with Iran will be off to the races come Jan. 2021, if Trump is reelected.

    Biden's incoherent rambling where he conflates poor people with black people in want of a decent phonograph, was extremely nauseating. If Democrats are stuck on stupid and nominate Joe ****ing Biden, I will have to go off the grid for the duration of the campaign, as I will NOT be able to watch or listen to Biden campaign and still support him. So, my best advice is to pretend you know nothing about politics or policy and rather than listen to anything Biden is saying, just follow your favorite team during the MLB season and poke your head in the voting booth to cast a vote to prevent the grave digger of American democracy (Mitch McConnell) from fulfilling his destiny.
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    The 2016 election was a dumpster fire. I almost didn't vote, but ended up pulling for Clinton because she signed on to much of the platform Bernie wrote. And for a few other reasons.

    I can't and won't vote for Biden under any circumstances. He's demonstrably worse than Clinton in every way. And yes, while Biden is better than Trump, the calculation is not sufficient to get me on Biden's team. What sealed it for me was the last debate.

    His suggestion that black people don't know how to raise their children was just out-and-out racist, and his answer from then veered into an incoherent ramble on Venezuela. If this is the best Dems can do, I'm out. Let the moderates save the country from Trump, if they can.

    Biden's incoherent ramble...

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    Nina Turner's epic response.
    I'm not happy to see Biden become the nominee, but for other reasons - mostly strategic.

    But unlike you, I will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is - bar none! No other nominee; Dem, Repub, or Indie, could be worse than Trump!
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    ...His suggestion that black people don't know how to raise their children was just out-and-out racist, and his answer from then veered into an incoherent ramble on Venezuela. If this is the best Dems can do, I'm out. Let the moderates save the country from Trump, if they can...
    I'm sure you'll sleep well at night knowing that you've helped keep that racist out of the WH. Look at how well Don has treated people of color for three years. Do you believe that our first black president's choice of Biden for VP, was a mistake and he should have picked Numnuts?

    Two choices, which one, it's such a difficult decision. Are you located in Moscow or Alabama?

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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal View Post
    I'm sure you'll sleep well at night knowing that you've helped keep that racist out of the WH.
    If my vote is the deciding factor, America has bigger problems than Trump.

    Look at how well Don has treated people of color for three years.
    Yes, it's terrible

    Do you believe that our first black president's choice of Biden for VP, was a mistake and he should have picked Numnuts?
    Biden wasn't chosen by Obama to get black voters, he was chosen to get white voters. Yes, Biden was a mistake and I can give you a laundry list of reasons why.

    Two choices, which one, it's such a difficult decision. Are you located in Moscow or Alabama?
    I'm putting all my eggs in the basket of 'Anyone but Biden' for the Democratic nomination. If that fails, and I just sign up out of party loyalty, then I was never sincere in the first place.

    Sorry, you can't guilt me into voting for Biden. Lay your burden at someone else's feet.
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    The 2016 election was a dumpster fire. I almost didn't vote, but ended up pulling for Clinton because she signed on to much of the platform Bernie wrote. And for a few other reasons.

    I can't and won't vote for Biden under any circumstances. He's demonstrably worse than Clinton in every way. And yes, while Biden is better than Trump, the calculation is not sufficient to get me on Biden's team. What sealed it for me was the last debate.

    His suggestion that black people don't know how to raise their children was just out-and-out racist, and his answer from then veered into an incoherent ramble on Venezuela. If this is the best Dems can do, I'm out. Let the moderates save the country from Trump, if they can.

    Biden's incoherent ramble...

    ...

    Nina Turner's epic response.
    Biden could be having dementia and in a wheel chair and he would be better than Trump having another 4 years.

    Trump is so bad that even cockroaches are thinking of running against him.

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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyone View Post
    Biden could be having dementia and in a wheel chair and he would be better than Trump having another 4 years.

    Trump is so bad that even cockroaches are thinking of running against him.
    Except that beyond the rhetoric and incompetence, Trump is basically no worse than a typical modern Republican. He just signs the bills and outsources the judical agenda to the Federalist Society. And I have bad news for Democrats, that ship has already sailed.

    Biden thinks Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence are perfectly fine and reasonable people to deal with. He effectively made the Bush Tax Cuts permanent, and told a room full of billionaires that nothing will fundamentally change for them if he's elected.

    I'm not the kind of voter Biden is trying to reach. And I can make an intellectual argument that Biden wouldn't be that much better on the policy. So... I'm totally missing the hook that would get me in his team.

    If the threat of Trump is so grave, why is Biden even among the top three? I didn't put him there.
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Can't vote for Biden if he's the nominee? Then don't you dare complain about Trump.

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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    Sorry, you can't guilt me into voting for Biden. Lay your burden at someone else's feet.
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    Re: Voted for Clinton, can't vote for Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    Except that beyond the rhetoric and incompetence, Trump is basically no worse than a typical modern Republican. He just signs the bills and outsources the judical agenda to the Federalist Society. And I have bad news for Democrats, that ship has already sailed.

    Biden thinks Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence are perfectly fine and reasonable people to deal with. He effectively made the Bush Tax Cuts permanent, and told a room full of billionaires that nothing will fundamentally change for them if he's elected.

    I'm not the kind of voter Biden is trying to reach. And I can make an intellectual argument that Biden wouldn't be that much better on the policy. So... I'm totally missing the hook that would get me in his team.

    If the threat of Trump is so grave, why is Biden even among the top three? I didn't put him there.
    I totally disagree with the bolded statement. Trump is so much worse than a normal Republican. He is totally incompetent, surrounds himself with "yes" men that follow everything he says, cares not all for other people (Biden is just the opposite), he never reads (to learn from the mistakes of others) and cannot ever be better since he considers that he never makes mistakes. Such a person cannot even hit the lottery once is a blue moon.

    Biden has principles, morals, ethics and humanity meaning that anything his age or his views causes a problem can be corrected. Trump is totally the opposite and his mistakes will never be corrected.

    Nonetheless, I have a strong feeling that Warren is going to get the nomination and that she will be our first female president, so stop worrying.
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