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How my powerful prayers defeated Hillary in '16. An absolute miracle!

Mashmont said:
non-practicing = irreligious = atheist. Basically all act and behave the same.
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Saul/Paul was a practicing Jew. So was the historical Jesus a Jew and never a Christian. Jesus also happened to voice what today would be called socialistic ideas and solutions for the poor and ill. But that's for another thread.

Non-practicing =/= irreligious =/= atheist. Irreligious means having no organised religious beliefs but perhaps being spiritualistic or entertaining some supernatural beliefs. Non-practicing means believing in a creed but not participating in the full spectrum of regular rituals of that creed. Atheist is engaging in the act of faith - that there is no divine - and having certainty in that act of faith in no divinity. So try to use the adjectives of faith correctly to avoid confusion.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Mashmont said:
Thank you, Angel. I was walking on clouds for quite awhile after Trump won.
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I felt a tremendous sense of relief and renewed hope for the nation; I was giddy with joy.
 
Mashmont said:
You've really bought the phony leftwing meme that Trump is somehow racist. But just to fill you in, the left created that narrative about Trump because he is currently polling at 22% among blacks. If that percentage holds up, it will spell absolute disaster for the Democrats in 2020, not only for the presidential election but all the way down through Congress. So that and that alone is what this lying smear campaign is all about.
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Ooops...you blew it.

First off, I am one who on multiple occasions has said the President isnt a racist, just a raging bigot. Fail number 1.

Fail number 2? An AP poll has Trump around 10% among blacks for his support number, and 80% think hes racist, so Im not sure where you are getting your numbers from. Best I can tell, only conservative slanted media are reporting anything close to the 22% you are claiming.

In order for that percentage to "hold up", as you said, it would have to be achieved first.

He would literally have to triple his support amongst blacks in order for that to happen. Good luck with that given history.
 
Mashmont said:
Hillary will say or do anything that might help her bottom line. She doesn't have a sincere bone in her body. She is cold, calculating, unlikeable, nasty. She can look at you and lie as easy as going through the McDonald's drive-thru. She would and did do everything she could for power and money., even to the point of allowing four men to die at Benghazi so as not to spoil a campaign meme of "al Queda is dead". Like all Marxists, it is all about HER and her power and wealth.
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You just described Donald Trump.
 
Iron_Merc said:
Kings is old testament. You might want to look into the dispensation of "grace"

God rarely gets involved in the politics of man you say? So you see no correlation between socialism and satan? None at all??
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Kings is an integral part of the Bible. To read the New Testament without reading and understanding the old is to read the Bible out of context.

I understand the dispensation of grace; I don't not understand your point. I suppose a part of this is I find your Star of David avatar a bit confusing with your introduction of a New Testament concept and somehow diminishing my Old Testament reference. Please explain yourself at you appear to be walking confliction. Unless, of course, you are referring to this concept...

https://www.israelsmisjonen.no/_service/316/download/id/13257/name/NCMI_Declaration.pdf

If so, I still do not get your point. What does this have to do with my previous post.

No, there is no more correlation between satan and socialism as there is between satan and capitalism. They each are economic systems, and they are never stand alone systems as there are always elements of one within the other. With each systems there are perversions; at the root of those perversions are the corruption of man (which could be satan, but it is ungodly selfishness). God abhors greed.
 
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Mashmont said:
Right after 0bummer won re-election, I was despondent. I had prayed sporadically, but wasn't living my best life. Then when the result happened, I decided to clean things up a bit, and become fervent in my prayers. So I said the Rosary every single day for the next four years, without exception. Every day. Took me 20-30 minutes a day. I offered the Rosary as prayer as I requested various things; protection for my family, well-being for friends and those who were sick, for the souls of loved ones. But I always ended by praying for the country, specifically for the 2016 election, that Hillary would lose.


I was FERVENT in my prayers. "Please, God. PLEASE spare the country. PLEASE don't allow the Supreme Court to go nutty left. Please help the unborn, God. Please. You can't possibly allow that evil woman to win. All the hatred and lies and criminal activity by her CANNOT be rewarded, God. PLEASE!!!!"


So all during 2015 and 2016, the media had Trump in trouble. Couldn't win the nomination. About to quit. This new scandal will be the one that does him in. On and on it went. They had him with a 90% chance to lose. Even the day before the election, they had him ten points down. No chance of winning. The exit polls, according to the early evening telecasts, had a huge Hillary win.


Still I kept on praying.


Then the tide suddenly turned. The most unlikely thing happened. From the ashes, Trump emerged the victor. Prayer worked. Fervent strong prayer every single day.


That episode confirmed for me the power of prayer and existence of God for me. God listened and answered. And I suspect a lot more than me were praying just as hard.
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Why is this in the political forum? Conspiracy theory would be more appropriate.
 
Irwin Corey said:
I was being facetious, here's the quote and what I replied to.



(I added the red for this post)

How many Super Bowl rings do most College Players win? :2wave:
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My bad. I overreacted to the overabundance of bull**** being said about Tim and didnt consider context. Lol
 
Angel said:
I felt a tremendous sense of relief and renewed hope for the nation; I was giddy with joy.
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So when Trump, an utterly despicable human being, was elected president, you were giddy with joy?
 
Mashmont said:
That episode confirmed for me the power of prayer and existence of God for me. God listened and answered. And I suspect a lot more than me were praying just as hard.
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Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?

Trump: That's a tough question.

It's not a tough question for a Christian.

 
Mashmont said:
See, you delude yourself. Trump is the only one telling the truth about how things are. The swamp wants all the power from themselves at the expense of the populus. That's why this constant war on Trump.
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Like how windmills give you cancer or that Mexico was going to pay for the wall?

I think about the only truthful thing Trump has said is that he'll grab some *****.
 
Mashmont said:
I love when atheist people lecture me about a book they don't even believe in.
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I am a practicing Lutheran and I'll put my knowledge of the Bible up against yours any day. I don't think you even pay attention when the lessons are read at Mass.

You whine about people judging you as you judge everyone here. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your hypocracy.
 
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Angel said:
I felt a tremendous sense of relief and renewed hope for the nation; I was giddy with joy.
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Why did the election of a liar, business failure, a con-man who lacks a reasonable grasp of the English language, and a sexual predator who praises dictators made you giddy with joy? Do you think that Jesus would approve of Donald Trump
 
Mashmont said:
I love when atheist people lecture me about a book they don't even believe in.
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I've known more atheist with a better understanding of the book than "Christians". I guess that's why they decided to be atheists.......
 
Lisa said:
Why did the election of a liar, business failure, a con-man who lacks a reasonable grasp of the English language, and a sexual predator who praises dictators made you giddy with joy? Do you think that Jesus would approve of Donald Trump
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I think that many of Trumps supporters feel that if someone that ****ed up can get elected they might be able to get themselves out of their mom's basement by the age of 50......
 
SCrider said:
I've known more atheist with a better understanding of the book than "Christians". I guess that's why they decided to be atheists.......
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I'm an atheist and I regularly quote the Bible to believers. I was also born in a conservative Roman Catholic home so I was forced to attend mass and CCD until the age of 18, even if I never believed a word of that nonsense.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
So when Trump, an utterly despicable human being, was elected president, you were giddy with joy?
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If you truly believe Donald Trump is "an utterly despicable human being," then your moral compass is pretty screwed up, my good countryman. Look to it.
 
Lisa said:
Why did the election of a liar, business failure, a con-man who lacks a reasonable grasp of the English language, and a sexual predator who praises dictators made you giddy with joy? Do you think that Jesus would approve of Donald Trump
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I don't see our thread posted yet in the Philosophy forum. Are you working on the OP?
 
Angel said:
If you truly believe Donald Trump is "an utterly despicable human being," then your moral compass is pretty screwed up, my good countryman. Look to it.
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Well let's see:

He has been married 3 times, and had multiple affairs.

Tiffany Trump, he openly joked about urging Marla Maples to abort.

He lies on average 5 to 7 times per day.

He was sleeping with porn stars while he had a newborn baby at home, and then paid them off to buy their silence.

He publicly absolved Kim Jong Un of the murder and torture of American citizens.

He has retweeted white supremacist propaganda on several occasions now.

Ran the most racist campaign for president since George Wallace.

I can go on and on. The man is literally the most despicable human being ever to set foot in the White House.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Well let's see:

He has been married 3 times, and had multiple affairs.

Tiffany Trump, he openly joked about urging Marla Maples to abort.

He lies on average 5 to 7 times per day.

He was sleeping with porn stars while he had a newborn baby at home, and then paid them off to buy their silence.

He publicly absolved Kim Jong Un of the murder and torture of American citizens.

He has retweeted white supremacist propaganda on several occasions now.

Ran the most racist campaign for president since George Wallace.

I can go on and on. The man is literally the most despicable human being ever to set foot in the White House.
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Yes, I am familiar with the official partisan spin on the man. If you buy into that as moral truth instead of the political tripe it is, then perhaps it is not your moral compass that's out of whack so much as your capacity for critical thought. But I wish you well with your hatred. I hope it gets you through the day gracefully.
 
Angel said:
I don't see our thread posted yet in the Philosophy forum. Are you working on the OP?
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Your arguments in the sexuality forum area logically incoherent religious mess so why should I bother continuing them in another forum. You have made a career of religiously putting the cart in front of the horse because in all of your arguments you illogically assume that your God exists, but with nothing of evidence to support your religious beliefs. Your god does not exist just because you have been convinced or you have managed to believe that it does. You must be able to put forth some sort of empirical evidence to support that your god exists, without invoking a circular logic or the watchmaker's fallacy. You have not been able to do that is more than a week, so why should I continue your religious charade?

Where in the evidence to support your god existing any more than Zeus, Ra, Jupiter, or Thor, that we know do not exist and are only known about as ancient myths?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Well let's see:

He has been married 3 times, and had multiple affairs.

Tiffany Trump, he openly joked about urging Marla Maples to abort.

He lies on average 5 to 7 times per day.

He was sleeping with porn stars while he had a newborn baby at home, and then paid them off to buy their silence.

He publicly absolved Kim Jong Un of the murder and torture of American citizens.

He has retweeted white supremacist propaganda on several occasions now.

Ran the most racist campaign for president since George Wallace.

I can go on and on. The man is literally the most despicable human being ever to set foot in the White House.
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According to Michele Bachmann and the easily duped rubes in this country, Trump is Biblical and Godlike.

I guess young men growing up in the church now know that the Ten Commandments can be ignored, money changing and grubbing is good, marital vows are not meant to be taken seriously, and it's okay to bear false witness against your neighbors. Trump does all of that and then some, and yet the "religious" people adore him.

I haven't seen such ignorance since Jim Jones and a few vats of purple Kool Aid in the jungle.
 
Angel said:
Yes, I am familiar with the official partisan spin on the man. If you buy into that as moral truth instead of the political tripe it is, then perhaps it is not your moral compass that's out of whack so much as your capacity for critical thought. But I wish you well with your hatred. I hope it gets you through the day gracefully.
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Where is Donald Trump's moral compass? This is a man who acts like violating the 10 commandments as a to-do list. Leviticus commands you to treat immigrants one of your own and yet Trump and conservatives are doing the very opposite.
The seven deadly sins are the cornerstone of his life.

People have always been immoral, shiftless, and self-gratifying. For ages, humankind struggled to find a conceptual system to operationalize their spiritual shortcomings.

Pride is an excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Envy is the desire for others' traits, status, abilities, or situation.

Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.

Lust is an inordinate craving for the pleasures of the body.

Anger is manifested in the individual who spurns love and opts instead for fury. It is also known as Wrath.

Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. It is also called Avarice or Covetousness.

Sloth is the avoidance of physical or spiritual work.
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Lisa said:
Your arguments in the sexuality forum area logically incoherent religious mess so why should I bother continuing them in another forum. You have made a career of religiously putting the cart in front of the horse because in all of your arguments you illogically assume that your God exists, but with nothing of evidence to support your religious beliefs. Your god does not exist just because you have been convinced or you have managed to believe that it does. You must be able to put forth some sort of empirical evidence to support that your god exists, without invoking a circular logic or the watchmaker's fallacy. You have not been able to do that is more than a week, so why should I continue your religious charade?

Where in the evidence to support your god existing any more than Zeus, Ra, Jupiter, or Thor, that we know do not exist and are only known about as ancient myths?
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Start the thread in the Philosophy forum, "Lisa and the Angel: a dialogue," if you think you want to discuss God and religion with me, Ms Lisa. But if all you have are the four or five talking points you keep repeating in these atheistic posts, then as an admirer of yours I'd advise you to drop the subject altogether in your reply posts to me.
 
Lisa said:
Where is Donald Trump's moral compass? This is a man who acts like violating the 10 commandments as a to-do list. Leviticus commands you to treat immigrants one of your own and yet Trump and conservatives are doing the very opposite.
The seven deadly sins are the cornerstone of his life.
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Judge not lest ye be judged, atheist.
 
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