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Women aren't the problem. LEFTWING women are.

marke said:
Male fighter pilots are generally better pilots, just like male race car drivers are generally better race car drivers.
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If I accept your statement as true, what is your point?
 
marke said:
Throwing money at the health crisis is not the best solution. Quarantines would have worked better.
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Quarantines happen only with proper resources. At the same time you need to research and develop treatment and cures.

Before you quarantine you have to understand what you may need to quarantine and why. You know....science.

Who would you quarantine? How would you know when to lift the quarantine?

How do you treat? How do you prevent the spread?

Your simplistic "quarantine" answer is beyond laughable.

Reagan bowing to the cruel whims of the Moral Majority was the least fiscally responsible thing he could have done. It was also the least "Jesus-y" thing he could have done. Not to mention immensely stupid from a public health standpoint. Pretty friggen dangerous as well. Ask Ryan White's family.
 
marke said:
Throwing money at the health crisis is not the best solution. Quarantines would have worked better.
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You cannot quarantine people who are not contagious to the general population. People have rights.
 
marke said:
Male fighter pilots are generally better pilots, just like male race car drivers are generally better race car drivers.
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I drove race cars and I have trophies for 1/3 of my races, which means that I finished in the top three 30% of the time. Meet me at the track and I'll show you how to watch my gearbox as I disappear into the distance.
 
SDET said:
I was hoping that you could figure that out for yourself. There were times in history where there wasn't a selection of jobs.
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Nor of a selection of successful men. And yet...you criticize women for having little choice but to deal with them? To settle for them?

And ah...why should such poor and unsuccessful men have the right to any woman and to father children? Why were there so many more poor men than rich ones? Why didnt they 'take' what they wanted?
 
One would think that modern US women would be grateful for how easy they have it instead of looking for grievances. Women back then became destitute when the man of the house died. She was grateful for each day that her husband came home having avoided a mine cave-in or a farm accident. Those were the REAL strong women, not the snowflakes of today.

Lursa said:
Nor of a selection of successful men. And yet...you criticize women for having little choice but to deal with them? To settle for them?

And ah...why should such poor and unsuccessful men have the right to any woman and to father children? Why were there so many more poor men than rich ones? Why didnt they 'take' what they wanted?
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SDET said:
One would think that modern US women would be grateful for how easy they have it instead of looking for grievances. Women back then became destitute when the man of the house died. She was grateful for each day that her husband came home having avoided a mine cave-in or a farm accident. Those were the REAL strong women, not the snowflakes of today.
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You know...you brought up the historic reference to support your argument...and now you cant defend it and are dropping it.

And I call bull**** to assume that women were grateful when an abusive husband came home, for whatever reason, altho you seem to concede that such male behavior and disrespect for women was common.

Please make a cogent argument and stick with it.
 
Lisa said:
You cannot quarantine people who are not contagious to the general population. People have rights.
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I hadn't even considered that he just meant gay people. Crap. If that is what he meant.....that is beyond stupid and more dangerous than what Reagan did (or rather didn't) do.
 
year2late said:
I hadn't even considered that he just meant gay people. Crap. If that is what he meant.....that is beyond stupid and more dangerous than what Reagan did (or rather didn't) do.
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He wanted to put gay people in quarantine. This would be a concentration campo because of religious belief. Religious conservative salivates at this idea because they would try to reeducate them via reparative theory.
 
I was told first hand by male and female relatives both that men born in the 1800s came home from the mine or the field too tired to be abusive. Idle hand are the devil's workshop was deeply and universally believed. A busy man doesn't have time to hit his wife even if he wanted to. Any man that I ever knew of that beat his wife was a drunkard. No booze; no violence. It was really that simple. My female ancestors were taught to drop a man the very instance you catch him with liquor.

Lursa said:
You know...you brought up the historic reference to support your argument...and now you cant defend it and are dropping it.

And I call bull**** to assume that women were grateful when an abusive husband came home, for whatever reason, altho you seem to concede that such male behavior and disrespect for women was common.

Please make a cogent argument and stick with it.
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SDET said:
I was told first hand by male and female relatives both that men born in the 1800s came home from the mine or the field too tired to be abusive. Idle hand are the devil's workshop was deeply and universally believed. A busy man doesn't have time to hit his wife even if he wanted to. Any man that I ever knew of that beat his wife was a drunkard. No booze; no violence. It was really that simple. My female ancestors were taught to drop a man the very instance you catch him with liquor.
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Beating isnt the only abuse, but I also call bull**** about being to tired to beat women and kids. Hell, today it's hidden from friends and family all the time. And they legally raped them too...tell me they were too tired for that?

You have completely departed from any argument at all except to pretend that domestic abuse was not common.
Your anecdotes fly in the face of history...and today.

And by the way...married women legally could not just walk away from their husbands. And if a husband didnt want a divorce, he kept the kids, he had her commited to an institution, etc etc etc. So...more BS from you about walking away.
 
year2late said:
Quarantines happen only with proper resources. At the same time you need to research and develop treatment and cures.

Before you quarantine you have to understand what you may need to quarantine and why. You know....science.

Who would you quarantine? How would you know when to lift the quarantine?

How do you treat? How do you prevent the spread?

Your simplistic "quarantine" answer is beyond laughable.

Reagan bowing to the cruel whims of the Moral Majority was the least fiscally responsible thing he could have done. It was also the least "Jesus-y" thing he could have done. Not to mention immensely stupid from a public health standpoint. Pretty friggen dangerous as well. Ask Ryan White's family.
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Reagan was too busy chasing down pot dealers to deal with the gay disease.
 
Lisa said:
He wanted to put gay people in quarantine. This would be a concentration campo because of religious belief. Religious conservative salivates at this idea because they would try to reeducate them via reparative theory.
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Reparative therapy sounds to me like a place where creepy straight guys might fake being gay to get close to women. Like when transgender women use female restrooms to listen to little girls pee. [eye roll]
 
SDET said:
I was told first hand by male and female relatives both that men born in the 1800s came home from the mine or the field too tired to be abusive. Idle hand are the devil's workshop was deeply and universally believed. A busy man doesn't have time to hit his wife even if he wanted to. Any man that I ever knew of that beat his wife was a drunkard. No booze; no violence. It was really that simple. My female ancestors were taught to drop a man the very instance you catch him with liquor.
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You: She was grateful for each day that her husband came home having avoided a mine cave-in or a farm accident.

Also You: My female ancestors were taught to drop a man the very instance you catch him with liquor.

Which is it?
 
Scarab said:
Reagan was too busy chasing down pot dealers to deal with the gay disease.
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He was too busy keeping the Moral Majority in his political back pocket. Allowing (initially) thousands of gay people to die was just politicking.

I never understood why killing off gay people made them feel more "moral".

I can never understand Christians that so completely missed how Jesus lived his life.
 
year2late said:
He was too busy keeping the Moral Majority in his political back pocket. Allowing (initially) thousands of gay people to die was just politicking.

I never understood why killing off gay people made them feel more "moral".

I can never understand Christians that so completely missed how Jesus lived his life.
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I hear you. Same people who think natural disasters are God's way of culling the gay and black populations.
 
Scarab said:
I hear you. Same people who think natural disasters are God's way of culling the gay and black populations.
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Must explain the Southern preachers that promote this idea.

Self loathing.
 
year2late said:
He was too busy keeping the Moral Majority in his political back pocket. Allowing (initially) thousands of gay people to die was just politicking.

I never understood why killing off gay people made them feel more "moral".

I can never understand Christians that so completely missed how Jesus lived his life.
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I am convinced that we required Christians to live by the gospel teachings of the man that they claim is the son of god and their personal savior that the evangelical conservatives would claim to be victims of religious prosecution because Jesus only matters to them on Christmas and Easter.
 
We gave women rights.

They used them to kill babies and make it legal. Then they gave us Hillary Clinton to add insult to injury.
 
Someone who drinks will expose themselves way before marriage is even a consideration. Rape isn't a consideration when it wouldn't even occur to a woman to say no to her husband.

Lursa said:
Beating isnt the only abuse, but I also call bull**** about being to tired to beat women and kids. Hell, today it's hidden from friends and family all the time. And they legally raped them too...tell me they were too tired for that?

You have completely departed from any argument at all except to pretend that domestic abuse was not common.
Your anecdotes fly in the face of history...and today.

And by the way...married women legally could not just walk away from their husbands. And if a husband didnt want a divorce, he kept the kids, he had her commited to an institution, etc etc etc. So...more BS from you about walking away.
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marke said:
My brother on law was a Navy pilot in the 1990s. He knew Kara Hultgren. He said she did not score as well in flight training as did most of the men but the Navy advanced her anyway due to political pressure to showcase women fighter pilots. Kara lost her life trying to land on a carrier.
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And that means that no woman is capable of landing on a carrier and all women should be excluded from pilot training?

In the history of aeronautics there were an equal number of women and men pilots. Women participated in the trick flying of the Barnstorming days. Look up Bessie Coleman. It wasn't until flying became commercial and pilots were paid to fly that women suddenly disappear from flying history.
 
Eriech said:
People are joining the middle class in droves from poverty( 6 million plus off food stamps % in poverty down) and leaving the middle class likewise into wealth.

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They are off of food stamps because the Trump administration changed the eligibility requirements not because they earned more or had greater wealth. And you will not find any statistics to support your claim that the middle class is increasing or that the amount of wealth held by the middle class has increased.
 
SDET said:
Someone who drinks will expose themselves way before marriage is even a consideration. Rape isn't a consideration when it wouldn't even occur to a woman to say no to her husband.
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Wow, just digging your hole deeper. As if a woman could get away with killing the drinking husband? What planet was that? And there are just as many secret alcoholics as there are domestic abusers.

And more BS that a woman that slaved all day taking care of kids, cooking, and a hovel...which is all the loser male could provide...during that time in history would have been exhausted too and of COURSE she'd want to object to sex sometimes. You excuse men by saying, 'oh but she knew she didnt have the right to complain anyway?'

What is wrong with you?

And you still cannot even provide a coherent argument. You cant even post reality.
 
SDET said:
Someone who drinks will expose themselves way before marriage is even a consideration. Rape isn't a consideration when it wouldn't even occur to a woman to say no to her husband.
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Wow, that sounds awful? A woman after a long day at work (either in or out of home) is exhausted beyond belief and it would not occur to her to say no? Sounds more like a slave than a wife.
 
Lursa said:
Wow, just digging your hole deeper. As if a woman could get away with killing the drinking husband? What planet was that? And there are just as many secret alcoholics as there are domestic abusers.

And more BS that a woman that slaved all day taking care of kids, cooking, and a hovel...which is all the loser male could provide...during that time in history would have been exhausted too and of COURSE she'd want to object to sex sometimes. You excuse men by saying, 'oh but she knew she didnt have the right to complain anyway?'

What is wrong with you?

And you still cannot even provide a coherent argument. You cant even post reality.
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I was wondering the same thing. Interestingly enough lots of battered wives did not turn hubby in. They felt trapped - living bruised and battered and fearful was frequently a more palatable choice that leaving the kids with him or having not enough resources to care for her children if she did leave.

Back in the day....a police officer called to the house might just chalk it up as a simple disagreement ….dispite the bruising. If she was too fearful to fight for her rights with the officer, it might just look worse for the woman for calling the police needlessly.

SDET is clueless on this subject.
 
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