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Congrats trump nation...

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yes, it's true...some of you really do, and I see that.
Unfortunately, you and folks like you are in the minority in the GOP at this time.
It's the Party of Trump now.
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It seems to be a minority in the dem party as well seeing as how the the democrat House just voted to add $320 billion in spending next year.
 
Lisa said:
Democrats need to stand up the next time a hypocritical republican or they seem to claim to be libertarians at that point, and askes about deficits and the debt and ask them that question. Ive had enough of GOP bull**** to last me until the next millennium, even if their faithful followers ask for second or thirds, under the guise of being a patriot.
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Well, democrats had their chance to 'stand up' and instead they voted to add $324 billion to the deficit.
House Passes Debt Limit and Spending Bill, Sends to Senate | RealClearPolitics
 
There isn't much to do about it now. The money is already spent. Not paying the bills only causes our interest rate to go up on the current debt. Hopefully, they won't rubber-stamp the next Trump budget.

Mentor or Mentor on the lake?
 
Lisa said:
There isn't much to do about it now. The money is already spent. Not paying the bills only causes our interest rate to go up on the current debt. Hopefully, they won't rubber-stamp the next Trump budget.

Mentor or Mentor on the lake?
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Im in Mentor but can throw a rock and hit a house in Mentor OTL. You live in the area?
 
Fletch said:
It seems to be a minority in the dem party as well seeing as how the the democrat House just voted to add $320 billion in spending next year.
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It was the tax giveaway to the rich genius.
 
Fletch said:
Uh, no. I was talking about the spending bill that was just passed. Pay attention.
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I know what you were talking about. Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. The ballooning deficit is predominantly due to the tax cuts. But you want to shift blame and put it on the democrats by using broken logic.
 
Fletch said:
Im in Mentor but can throw a rock and hit a house in Mentor OTL. You live in the area?
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SSW of Akron. I've been to Mentor a few times and I had a friend who lived in Painesville. I used to travel I-90E quote often.
 
poweRob said:
I've always known. Even before Dick Cheney said, "President Reagan proved deficits don't matter"?
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This is why I scan threads first, to see who beat me to it on Cheney, and his vote to break the tie. Reagan had the first $400 Billion deficit. How much is that in today’s dollars?

But wait, that was the fault of the Democratic House. And Obama’s deficits were the fault of Obama, not the Teapublic House. And former Senators Dole and Simpson said the 1983 tax cuts were the worst mistake they’d ever made.

How much of the TAD — total accumulated debt — is due to interest from Reagan’s ‘voodoo’ years? The bill will come due next decade, just as it did a century ago, only far worse.
 
poweRob said:
I know what you were talking about. Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. The ballooning deficit is predominantly due to the tax cuts. But you want to shift blame and put it on the democrats by using broken logic.
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Spending bills originate in the House. So if your side cared about the deficit, it wouldnt have just voted to increase it by $324 billion. And no, the deficit is due to increased spending. Tax revenue continued to rise after the tax cuts. Spending rose faster. Plus, if you did your homework, you would know that Trump inherited rising deficits from Obama and Obamas own projections foresaw trillion dollar deficits. We got there quicker than Obama thought we would, but we were going to get there anyway. And please, stop pretending you actually care what the deficit is. You dont. And everyone knows it.
 
poweRob said:
Obama had a trillion dollar deficit pulling us out if a republican recession and trump has a trillion dollar deficit putting us into one.

U.S. Posts $1 Trillion Budget Gap, Full-Year May Be Lower

September, the final month of the fiscal year, typically produces a surplus because quarterly tax payments are due. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the 2019 budget deficit will be $960 billion.

Since Oct. 1, the budget gap rose by about 19% to $1.07 trillion, according to the Treasury Department’s monthly budget report released Thursday. The comparable deficit a year earlier was $898.1 billion.​
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LOL, Dems control spending which is the cause of the deficit, which, as your own headline suggests may not BE a trillion at the end of the fiscal year.

Here's the facts according to CBO: Revenues this year so far have increased by over 3% including strong gains in corporate income tax and payroll tax. Both good signs for continued economic growth.


Bad news: spending increased by 7%


deficit increased by $168 billion over last year at this time: All most EXACTLY the difference between the increased spending and increased revenue. As usual spending continues to be the problem - and, IMHO, it's both party's fault.

The really bad news: Interest on the national debt increased by 14% For those of you familiar with "the rule of 72" that mean we'll be paying twice as much in a little over five years. We can't go on like this.
 
Fletch said:
Spending bills originate in the House. So if your side cared about the deficit, it wouldnt have just voted to increase it by $324 billion. And no, the deficit is due to increased spending. Tax revenue continued to rise after the tax cuts. Spending rose faster. Plus, if you did your homework, you would know that Trump inherited rising deficits from Obama and Obamas own projections foresaw trillion dollar deficits. We got there quicker than Obama thought we would, but we were going to get there anyway. And please, stop pretending you actually care what the deficit is. You dont. And everyone knows it.
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Who could possibly argue with all those supporting links you brought?

It was the tax cuts. Your messiah ****ed up. So sorry you cant shift blame for it.
 
poweRob said:
Who could possibly argue with all those supporting links you brought?

It was the tax cuts. Your messiah ****ed up. So sorry you cant shift blame for it.
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You dont know what you are talking about and its not my job to educate you. But lucky for you, Bullseye did your homework for you in the post above. Not that you will read it or absorb it.
 
Linc said:
This is why I scan threads first, to see who beat me to it on Cheney, and his vote to break the tie. Reagan had the first $400 Billion deficit. How much is that in today’s dollars?

But wait, that was the fault of the Democratic House. And Obama’s deficits were the fault of Obama, not the Teapublic House. And former Senators Dole and Simpson said the 1983 tax cuts were the worst mistake they’d ever made.

How much of the TAD — total accumulated debt — is due to interest from Reagan’s ‘voodoo’ years? The bill will come due next decade, just as it did a century ago, only far worse.
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Total nonsense. Bush doubled the debt and Obama came along and doubled it again. And who do you blame? Reagan :roll: Are you sure it wasnt Atwater and the Southern Strategy? Lol
But since this deficit has all you libs peeing your pants, how wold your life be different if Trumps deficit was the same as Obamas last deficit of $666 billion? Answer: it wouldnt. Face neither you nor any other liberal gives a crap about the deficit. You just hate Trump.
 
Do you guys think that most Trump supporters were too stupid to realize that he's fiscally irresponsible and a crook?
 
Bullseye said:
LOL, Dems control spending which is the cause of the deficit, which, as your own headline suggests may not BE a trillion at the end of the fiscal year.

Here's the facts according to CBO: Revenues this year so far have increased by over 3% including strong gains in corporate income tax and payroll tax. Both good signs for continued economic growth.


Bad news: spending increased by 7%


deficit increased by $168 billion over last year at this time: All most EXACTLY the difference between the increased spending and increased revenue. As usual spending continues to be the problem - and, IMHO, it's both party's fault.

The really bad news: Interest on the national debt increased by 14% For those of you familiar with "the rule of 72" that mean we'll be paying twice as much in a little over five years. We can't go on like this.
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And tax receipt gains would be significantly more than 3% if nit for the billionaire tax breaks. Sorry but you missed the bullseye again.
 
poweRob said:
And tax receipt gains would be significantly more than 3% if nit for the billionaire tax breaks. Sorry but you missed the bullseye again.
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What "billionaire tax breaks"? They pay a disproportionate share of total tax revenue.
 
Bullseye said:
What "billionaire tax breaks"? They pay a disproportionate share of total tax revenue.
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False metric. They pay in a drastically disproportionate lower amount of their wealth and income than the rest of us.
 
poweRob said:
False metric. They pay in a drastically disproportionate lower amount of their wealth and income than the rest of us.
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LOL, trying to conflate wealth and income is a false equivalency. You're talking progressive poppycock.
 
Bullseye said:
LOL, trying to conflate wealth and income is a false equivalency. You're talking progressive poppycock.
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Pretty pathetic dodge just to admit you don't know math.
 
poweRob said:
Obama had a trillion dollar deficit pulling us out if a republican recession and trump has a trillion dollar deficit putting us into one.

U.S. Posts $1 Trillion Budget Gap, Full-Year May Be Lower

September, the final month of the fiscal year, typically produces a surplus because quarterly tax payments are due. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the 2019 budget deficit will be $960 billion.

Since Oct. 1, the budget gap rose by about 19% to $1.07 trillion, according to the Treasury Department’s monthly budget report released Thursday. The comparable deficit a year earlier was $898.1 billion.​
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What recession?

Best “Recession” Ever – MAGAnomics: Inflation 1.7%, Wage Growth +3.5%, Real Worker Earnings +1.8%… | The Last Refuge

Best “Recession” Ever – Retail Sales Show “Unexpected” Growth in August -AND- Despite Tariffs Import Prices Drop… | The Last Refuge
 
poweRob said:
Pretty pathetic dodge just to admit you don't know math.
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LOL, shifting to insults, eh? Your BS is weak. My math is just fine. Your ideology needs work.
 
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