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Camps for the Homeless?

Cardinal said:
Yes, a prison. A prison for people who committed the crime of not having homes.
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And Trump loves debt. We could bring back debtors prison for him.
 
calamity said:
There are a lot of problems we can hand over to the federal government. I am glad to see all the so-called conservatives and libertarians finally agree on that. Now, lets add

Medicare for all

Guaranteed income

Free food

Free college

Gun bans

Limits of profiteering

Eliminate bad parenting, bad churching, bad feeding, bad bad bad....let's have uncle Sam eliminate all bad things. :roll:

Yeay! Trump is great!
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What a pitiful post.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

There is nothing new here...you **** yourself over all things Trump. In this case you have a STATE that has epidemic health conditions, disease, drug use, violent crimes, deaths, rat infestations, all caused by a homeless epidemic that the state cant begin to touch...and when the Trump administration LOOKS at an unused FAA facility as a possible solution...

you **** yourself on cue.

You would rather have the homeless epidemic...the **** on the streets, the rats, the drug needles, the disease, the rapes...CONTINUE than accept the possibility of the fed working with the state to find a solution to a massive problem. And you have one reason. Your constant mindless hatred of Trump.

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To be fair to critics of his proposal, it is not so much hating Trump, but not trusting him. There is little to nothing in his record indicating the compassion or savvy to deal with a problem affecting poor people, the mentally ill, etc.

Get back to us when he pledges to raise the minimum wage. Let him surprise us with a plan that provides jobs, drug treatment, temporary housing, or whatever a panel of business, homeless advocates, mayors and others come up with. Suggestion: have them stay at Trump properties as Pence and the military do.
 
Lisa said:
That isn't permissible if there is a cost, they are required to work or of religious belief is involved.
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What? The ones I'm talking about don't involve either.
 
Bullseye said:
You have zero concept of states' rights and small government ideology. You talk loony clichés. As usual, you seem more interest in spewing anti-Trump BS than actually offering anything meaningful about dealing with this serious problem.
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Ah yes, giant federal camps filled with a state’s homeless people is not big government, and it’s totally respectful of that state’s right to self-govern :roll:

Maybe figuring out what Staten Island is might be a more worthwhile endeavor, because judging by the lack of logic in the above post, making sound arguments certainly is not.
 
Bullseye said:
I've seen stories about some private agencies running short term camps for homeless, offering medical, dental, mental assistance, showers, haircuts, etc.
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Private is not the federal government. And you gave no specifics or links. Its just never is going to have the same meaning as a federal facility for the homeless.
 
calamity said:
Ah yes, giant federal camps filled with a state’s homeless people is not big government, and it’s totally respectful of that state’s right to self-govern :roll:

Maybe figuring out what Staten Island is might be a more worthwhile endeavor, because judging by the lack of logic in the above post, making sound arguments certainly is not.
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Pure nonsense.
 
I like the idea of providing shelter for the homeless, provided its not "mandatory shelter".....I know there are enough shipping containers that could be used.
 
Bum said:
I like the idea of providing shelter for the homeless, provided its not "mandatory shelter".....I know there are enough shipping containers that could be used.
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Containers are a great idea. Voluntary rehab available as well.
 
poweRob said:
Containers are a great idea. Voluntary rehab available as well.
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They work nicely for us over here...and, as shelters go, pretty damn durable.


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poweRob said:
It's been kind of a fad over here to build container homes.

That lower pic is neat. Stacked housing with mini-split cooling. So long as you insulate the hell out of them it's a good idea.
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Yup....I have seen a lot of those popping up; fairly cost effective ( compared to other pre-fab shelter/homes) , easily moved, easy to perform maintenance on as the piping/wiring is usually external in protected covers/channels, and they have a minimal foot print that allows them to be placed in locations with minimal prep.
 
Bum said:
Yup....I have seen a lot of those popping up; fairly cost effective ( compared to other pre-fab shelter/homes) , easily moved, easy to perform maintenance on as the piping/wiring is usually external in protected covers/channels, and they have a minimal foot print that allows them to be placed in locations with minimal prep.
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They are built specifically to be moved and they are being tossed to the side. Pick up for free and pay for shipping and then mod them as needed.
 
Bullseye said:
It was a general comment. Here's one I've been involved in in the past
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Thats great for veterans that there is a NGO that at least does something. But that does not really relate to a federal facility housing Americans at the cost of tax payers. Cities that have homeless problems are responsible, not the federal government. What constitutional right does the federal government have to come into a State and set up a facility for the homeless? Certainly you agree that the homeless have rights, so if they chose not go to a facility there should be nothing that the federal government could do about it. And whatever damage that those purely a life choice people are doing to communities there should be city ordinances to deal with it.

And to be clear there is a distinction between homeless and lifestyle choice. Some of these so called homeless camps are left over leftist from the occupy movement. They are not the same as someone/family having a hard time that they are trying to get out of. The biggest distinction is need vs wants. Some people need a little extra help some do not really need help they just want some help.
 
poweRob said:
They are built specifically to be moved and they are being tossed to the side. Pick up for free and pay for shipping and then mod them as needed.
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Honestly, I could see an entire industry putting people ( homeless?) to work retrofitting the containers for the homeless population in the US......one stone, two birds.
 
Bum said:
Honestly, I could see an entire industry putting people ( homeless?) to work retrofitting the containers for the homeless population in the US......one stone, two birds.
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I'm fine with that. As long as it's voluntary.
 
VanceMack said:
Will you lit a finger regardless?
Your opinion is worthless. You literally dont give the first **** about those people or their situation. They can die in the ****ing street for all you care. To you they are just another 'thing' to **** yourself over TRUUUUUUUMMMPPP!!! about.
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Well that's about as wrong as it can be. But I hope your spleen feels better now.
 
VanceMack said:
Great question. Annually we provide meals to on average 45 families for Thanksgiving and Christmas through the organization that I am the director of. I work OCCASIONALLY...not often..at a shelter. I have taken in my wifes family members...including people with chronic illness. I have held the hand of a niece as she made the most important decision of her life and loved her before and after...even when I didnt agree with her decision. BUT...how many homeless people have a I brought into my home?

None.

But then...I'm not an idiot leftist ****ting myself because a politician I hate is looking at solutions to solve a humanitarian crisis...now am I?
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The problem is nobody is sure if he actually cares or just wants a photo op.

I suspect a private prison solution is in the offing.

They contribute lavishly.
 
What if...? said:
The problem is nobody is sure if he actually cares or just wants a photo op.

I suspect a private prison solution is in the offing.

They contribute lavishly.
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Standing reservations at a Trump resort is really all it takes.
 
What if...? said:
Well that's about as wrong as it can be. But I hope your spleen feels better now.
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:lamo

SHOOOOOOOORE its wrong. You care just like Calamity cares.

:lamo
 
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