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    Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes - BBC News

    Mr Trump told reporters vaping was a "new problem", especially for children.US Health Secretary Alex Azar said the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) would finalise a plan to take all non-tobacco flavours off the market.
    There have been six deaths across 33 states and 450 reported cases of lung illness tied to vaping.
    Many of the 450 reported cases are young people, with an average age of 19.
    Michigan this month became the first US state to ban flavoured e-cigarettes.
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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    There's nothing a federal ban can't solve

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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Sensible. Vapes kill 5 people, ban them.

    Guns kill millions, SELL MORE!

    The death of one is a tragedy.
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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    His first remarks were confusing to say the least. Vaping equals jobs?

    Trump says he is concerned about vaping because '''people are dying'''
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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Nevermind 480,000 yearly deaths from burned tobacco....

    Yet another idiotic overreaction that will make things worse, not better. Vaping isn't killing anyone. A contaminent in a tiny tiny tiny subset of total vape products is, and thus far only 6. 6 total vs. 480,000/yr.

    Naturally, the American reaction (whether D or R) is "ban them all!" We have no concept of scale.

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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Nevermind 480,000 yearly deaths from burned tobacco....

    Yet another idiotic overreaction that will make things worse, not better. Vaping isn't killing anyone. A contaminent in a tiny tiny tiny subset of total vape products is, and thus far only 6. 6 total vs. 480,000/yr.

    Naturally, the American reaction (whether D or R) is "ban them all!" We have no concept of scale.
    We have a concept of it with guns though. We don't ban those - and we shouldn't. This authoritarian idiocy has to end. We need to sew up this division and make some amendments to the constitution so some of these issues are not endlessly decided by the SCOTUS.
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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    In the spirit of giving credit where credit is due, this is a move I can support. Though I’ll be curious to see if the libertarians and “keep the gub’mint out of my personal business” conservatives that are enamored with Trump support it.

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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Nevermind 480,000 yearly deaths from burned tobacco....

    Yet another idiotic overreaction that will make things worse, not better. Vaping isn't killing anyone. A contaminent in a tiny tiny tiny subset of total vape products is, and thus far only 6. 6 total vs. 480,000/yr.

    Naturally, the American reaction (whether D or R) is "ban them all!" We have no concept of scale.
    I think its a good idea.

    Im sick of the cynical advertising from Jewel Labs that positions their nicotine delivery system as smoking addiction cure.

    Just as Im sick of watching these guys blatantly market to high school kids with flavors, and wrap themselves in lab coats when they are just a subsidiary of Phillip Morris!

    IF we had done something about the cynical marketing of opioids when there were still this few deaths and reactions, wed be a lot better off now!

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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Dems...so triggered. I truly enjoy your pain...everyday
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    Re: Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    I think it’s a good idea.

    I’m sick of the cynical advertising from Jewel Labs that positions their nicotine delivery system as smoking addiction cure.

    Just as I’m sick of watching these guys blatantly market to high school kids with flavors, and wrap themselves in lab coats when they are just a subsidiary of Phillip Morris!

    IF we had done something about the cynical marketing of opioids when there were still this few deaths and reactions, we’d be a lot better off now!
    You think it's a good idea to turn all the people who quite smoking cigarettes back to smoking cigarettes, and you want to turn people who started with vaping and turn them to cigarettes for their nicotine fix?

    It's a terrible idea. Exactly the sort of terrible idea we always embrace to make ourselves feel better so we can say we're "doing something" when what we're doing is actually make a bad situation worse. It'll start with flavored e-cigarettes and it'll cascade if it gets momentum. And then we'll be back to every nicotine user chasing lung cancer.

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