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A day of Rembemerance

Even here in the Netherlands the news programs talked about the 9/11 tragedy.

Like most in the Netherlands, I can still remember exactly where I was when the planes struck. I was driving from the customs care warehouse I was the administrator of to the customs office in Heerlen (about 20 minutes drive) when I listened to the radio and heard what had happened. I called my mother so she could turn on the television and relay back to me what was happening. When I got to the customs office the news had spread there too, I was allowed in the back offices of the customs office and we watched on a small television how the planes were flying into the towers.

After I returned home (had planned it so that I did not need to go back to work, remember, the attack happened in the afternoon here) and put on CNN first and Dutch television later and did not watch a regular TV show anymore that evening. I will never forget where I was when the West and it's morally upstanding values where attacked by terrorist scum, even if I live up to 150. It will be etched in my memories as one of the most horrendous things I have ever seen. It ranks there with Herald of Free enterprise, the Bijlmer plane crash, MH17, this tragedy on Queens day



and other tragedies that are burned on my brain but of most of these tragedies I cannot remember where I was at that exact time, with 9/11 it made such an impact that I will never forget. And at times like that, it is one of the only times I am not happy that I am an atheist, at those moments I am sad to be an atheist because I do not get to think that all these perpetrators will be burning in hell.
 
WCH said:
I watched it to. they had a slant on every segment about Trump. As usual.
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Rightie definition of "slant": the truth. As Colbert said, facts have a liberal bias.
 
Thoreau72 said:
As a strict constitutionalist, and understanding that death is part of life, I would rather mourn the death of numerous constitutional principles that resulted from the Bright & Shining Lie told that day and every day since.
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We don't have to choose. I mourn the loss of life, and innocence and a resurgence of bigoty and hatred. One of the saddest of impacts, was a loss of perspective by an entire generation of voters and lawmakers. That lead to the birth of a patriot act and some siblings that should have been stillborn in a hopper room. We have screwed with our own constitutionally established civil liberties, and tossed search and seizure and due process protections aside.
 
btthegreat said:
One of the saddest of impacts, was a loss of perspective by an entire generation of voters and lawmakers. That lead to the birth of a patriot act and some siblings that should have been stillborn in a hopper room. We have screwed with our own constitutionally established civil liberties, and tossed search and seizure and due process protections aside.
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Naomi Klein wrote a good book, "The Shock Doctrine", which used 9/11 as an example of how there are forces who have measure ready to push that the public normally won't accept, that can be enacted in a time of shock from a crisis, whether manufactured or not.
 
Craig234 said:
Naomi Klein wrote a good book, "The Shock Doctrine", which used 9/11 as an example of how there are forces who have measure ready to push that the public normally won't accept, that can be enacted in a time of shock from a crisis, whether manufactured or not.
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Its always a good idea to have a ready policy answer when opportunity knocks whether it be to exploit a tragedy or an election swing. Every interest group has their list of executive orders, their regulatory reform, their tax bill, and their list of preferred cabinet officers and judges sitting in a folder!
 
btthegreat said:
Its always a good idea to have a ready policy answer when opportunity knocks whether it be to exploit a tragedy or an election swing. Every interest group has their list of executive orders, their regulatory reform, their tax bill, and their list of preferred cabinet officers and judges sitting in a folder!
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This goes way beyond the normal 'be ready for normal policies'. I'd suggest reading the book. This is about violating cultural norms, not obtaining power.
 
btthegreat said:
We don't have to choose. I mourn the loss of life, and innocence and a resurgence of bigoty and hatred. One of the saddest of impacts, was a loss of perspective by an entire generation of voters and lawmakers. That lead to the birth of a patriot act and some siblings that should have been stillborn in a hopper room. We have screwed with our own constitutionally established civil liberties, and tossed search and seizure and due process protections aside.
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You use 'we' in your last sentence in the editorial sense.

That 'we' excludes me and all the other citizens including the ACLU who objected strenuously to the unpatriot act.

THEY, our elected representatives in fear of anthrax, delivered that illegitimate POS.

I, and likely you too, had nothing to do with it.
 
WCH said:
Colbert? LOL! The people y'all place on pedestals.
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It's not about a 'pedestal', he was a hell of a good political commentator as a satirist on that show, which you righties do not understand. His point was correct, which you righties do not understand. The few things you think you understand are 'Democrat socialist commie fascist pedophile leftist' all the same thing bad SQUAWWWWWK
 
Craig234 said:
It's not about a 'pedestal', he was a hell of a good political commentator as a satirist on that show, which you righties do not understand. His point was correct, which you righties do not understand. The few things you think you understand are 'Democrat socialist commie fascist pedophile leftist' all the same thing bad SQUAWWWWWK
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Interesting you align yourself with all those descriptions.
 
WCH said:
Interesting you align yourself with all those descriptions.
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Are you that unable to understand simple English that you don't understand I was describing the idiotic things Republicans say?
 
Craig234 said:
Are you that unable to understand simple English that you don't understand I was describing the idiotic things Republicans say?
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I'm telling you most of those things identify the modern Leftist. Not might fault you're unaware.
 
WCH said:
I'm telling you most of those things identify the modern Leftist. Not might fault you're unaware.
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You proved my point, that the right are toddlers who can't tell the difference between those words.
 
Craig234 said:
It's not about a 'pedestal', he was a hell of a good political commentator as a satirist on that show, which you righties do not understand. His point was correct, which you righties do not understand. The few things you think you understand are 'Democrat socialist commie fascist pedophile leftist' all the same thing bad SQUAWWWWWK
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Colbert is pathetic.
 
Craig234 said:
Are you that unable to understand simple English that you don't understand I was describing the idiotic things Republicans say?
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^ ^ Ironic syntax...

:cool:
 
Craig234 said:
You proved my point, that the right are toddlers who can't tell the difference between those words.
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Just like your positions on gun confiscation, pitting the wealthy against the poor and race/identity-based politics, your wannabe Communism is becoming more and more transparent.
 
WCH said:
Just like your positions on gun confiscation, pitting the wealthy against the poor and race/identity-based politics, your wannabe Communism is becoming more and more transparent.
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His brain was squirming like a toad... crayon commie commie mommie save me from the commies... grunting commie. The people who pit the wealthy against the poor are the wealthy who wage economic warfare for plutocracy, where they take all the economic growth for themselves, repeatedly giving themselves tax cuts that all are added to our public debt. You are invited not to reply to my posts.
 
Craig234 said:
His brain was squirming like a toad... crayon commie commie mommie save me from the commies... grunting commie. The people who pit the wealthy against the poor are the wealthy who wage economic warfare for plutocracy, where they take all the economic growth for themselves, repeatedly giving themselves tax cuts that all are added to our public debt. You are invited not to reply to my posts.
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What happen? Did I pull your widdle twigger.
 
WCH said:
What happen? Did I pull your widdle twigger.
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LOL, I just saw you're from Texas, just as I'd have guessed was the most likely state for the blather. Here's a prediction: not Austin. The only question is whether to give you any more chances before no longer reading your posts.
 
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