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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    Bernie was the father of the movement. Now all candidates are following Bernies lead, they are 'Johnny come latelies' I'm by no means
    a far leftwinger, but if I was Bernie would get my vote not the copycats.
    And you'd be endlessly attacked for supporting Bernie by Butthurt HRC voters who feel betrayed because their puritanical idiocy disallows them from seeing how stupid their choice was in 2016.
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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    No. Social security is an EARNED benefit, it isn't socialism.

    For the most part our socialism is backward, in the manner in which I described it.
    LOL. While that is true about social security, many lefties claim that it is a socialist program and give Democrats credit for that socialist policy.

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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    LOL. While that is true about social security, many lefties claim that it is a socialist program and give Democrats credit for that socialist policy.
    It's not a socialist program. What's socialist is using tax dollars to prop up failing industries; like TARP. Or offering public tax dollars as incentives for corporate entities to offer lower paying jobs and destroy local communities.

    This is socialism in reverse. It takes from the public to fund the rich.
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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    It's an earned benefit. You work, you earn it.

    That's not socialism.
    I don't disagree with that. (bolded)
    Read what I wrote again.
    Where's the quid?
    Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel The Ukrainians weren't made aware that the assistance was being delayed/reviewed until more than one month after the call. https://twitter.com/rickwtyler/statu...82355069431808

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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I don't disagree with that. (bolded)
    Read what I wrote again.
    I don't care if you agree. You work, you earn it. Those are -undeniable- facts.

    You work, you earn SS.

    To you, working and earning is socialist. I guess everyone should work for free.
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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    I don't care if you agree. You work, you earn it. Those are -undeniable- facts.

    You work, you earn SS.

    To you, working and earning is socialist. I guess everyone should work for free.
    Strawman

    The above did not disprove what I wrote two posts ago, but if you insist on manipulation by dodging, go for it.
    Where's the quid?
    Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel The Ukrainians weren't made aware that the assistance was being delayed/reviewed until more than one month after the call. https://twitter.com/rickwtyler/statu...82355069431808

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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Strawman

    The above did not disprove what I wrote two posts ago, but if you insist on manipulation by dodging, go for it.
    It's an earned benefit, no matter what the government decides. It is like insurance. You have to have it to drive a car, and it promises to pay you X if you pay in Y when A occurs.

    It's simple. But to you, a libertarian, any "benefit" is socialism and should be scorned.

    You don't even know what your libertarian fantasy land would require to function.

    And someone who espouses libertarianism in the vein you do should not be quoting a Buddhist.
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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Sorry, but his list of false smears against Bernie isn't addressed by 'what policy is different?' That would be a discussion with a rational and more honest person, not someone who is dishonest and has Bernie Derangement Syndrome. Our conflict was his smearing Bernie, not Warren's positives.
    I agree. And apparently he agrees. Policy isn't what he's concerned with and thats clearly a damn shame because it makes him a very easy target to pick off by the right.
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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    It's an earned benefit, no matter what the government decides. It is like insurance. You have to have it to drive a car, and it promises to pay you X if you pay in Y when A occurs.

    It's simple. But to you, a libertarian, any "benefit" is socialism and should be scorned.

    You don't even know what your libertarian fantasy land would require to function.

    And someone who espouses libertarianism in the vein you do should not be quoting a Buddhist.
    If someone espouses libertarian leftist platitudes, they shouldn't care what my sigline says. Libertarians love freedom. You didn't get the memo?

    You go ahead and be stubborn about social security not having some socialist tenets. It is a welfare state program implemented and administered by the federal government. Of course, it is funded by the worker. No one said differently but what you are ignoring is that anyone who calls themselves a libertarian would know that when someone receives a monthly social security benefit a deduction for medicare is taken. Want to know why because the fed. government is both the founder and overseer of both socialist programs.
    Where's the quid?
    Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel The Ukrainians weren't made aware that the assistance was being delayed/reviewed until more than one month after the call. https://twitter.com/rickwtyler/statu...82355069431808

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    Re: Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    It's not a socialist program. What's socialist is using tax dollars to prop up failing industries; like TARP. Or offering public tax dollars as incentives for corporate entities to offer lower paying jobs and destroy local communities.

    This is socialism in reverse. It takes from the public to fund the rich.
    You are not worth debating with. Your eyes are closed. You're jealous of the rich. Rich people bad.

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