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Lets talk about the third debate on Thursday

Fare thee well, Phys. Keep enjoying Trump. With your disgusting attitude, you deserve it.

God have mercy on me? You project, accuse, assault - all in defence of your terrible candidate who sucked so much ass she lost to a clown car real estate developer from Manhatten, a loud mouth who insulted literally the entire country, but It's MY FAULT Trump is president.

I do so enjoy how you insist I am immediately defensive when I listed -valid criticisms of Bernie Sanders.-

It's people like you, unrepentant hillary supporters, who lack the insight to question the choice YOU lot made, choosing your social justice trophy for president, it's folks like you who ensured Trump was elected.

Clean your own house.

This, sir, is why folks like you must be ignored, mocked, and scorned.

Unlike you, I will vote for whoever the democrats pick.

But deep down, you will too - and you'll lie about it.

But we all know YOU will continue spewing your insane identity politicking while doing so.

Good riddance. I have nothing to gain from debating you.

That's because you have nothing of value to offer. :) I showed you multiple instances of where your illogic fell flat on its face, but like Sanders, Trump, and most of their supporters, you doubled-down on your dishonesty.

You didn't even read the article by Eichenwald about the legions of problems about Sanders because you refuse to accept the truth that he is a very problematic candidate. You Sanders supporters put a fence around him and if anyone such as myself dares to cross that fence, you react like a vampire would when fed garlic at high noon. But what you don't understand is that that fence only exists in your mind, and we are free to cross it any time we please. Sanders is not a deity, and y'all need to finally stop treating him as such. Your (plural) reactions are classic groupthink, which is what we've come to expect from y'all. But you lack any kind of introspection whatsoever on this issue, so you refuse to see what anyone else who chooses to be rational can see.

I am going to repeat something I said earlier in this thread: Bernie Sanders will never become President of the United States. I figured that out years ago when I initially gave him a chance but realize that there was nothing to him except rants against the millionaihs, the billionaihs, and "The Establishment." The Establishment. Is not a straight white man who has been a career politician since 1981 a member of The Establishment? Of course he's not, because the progressive purity test always grades Saint Bernard on a curve. :laughat:

Do not get upset when he fails to run away with the primary. Do not get upset when a lot of people prefer Warren, Biden, Harris, Klobuchar, or Booker over him. Inside the Sanders bubble exist the only people who refuse to understand why, and you have decisively proven that over the course of this thread. :lol:
 
By 'he' you mean Phys, right? You aren't saying Bernie is not concerned with policy. When you say Phys apparently agrees with my comment... I didn't see that back when I was reading his posts. (His or her)

Phys... Bernie and Elizabeth are both about policy and aren't hiding their positions like typical candidates. Proud progressives and I'm all for them both.
 
Bernie and Elizabeth are both about policy and aren't hiding their positions like typical candidates. Proud progressives and I'm all for them both.

I'd say 'dream ticket', but I think that's very unlikely.
 
That's because you have nothing of value to offer. :) I showed you multiple instances of where your illogic fell flat on its face, but like Sanders, Trump, and most of their supporters, you doubled-down on your dishonesty.

You didn't even read the article by Eichenwald about the legions of problems about Sanders because you refuse to accept the truth that he is a very problematic candidate. You Sanders supporters put a fence around him and if anyone such as myself dares to cross that fence, you react like a vampire would when fed garlic at high noon. But what you don't understand is that that fence only exists in your mind, and we are free to cross it any time we please. Sanders is not a deity, and y'all need to finally stop treating him as such. Your (plural) reactions are classic groupthink, which is what we've come to expect from y'all. But you lack any kind of introspection whatsoever on this issue, so you refuse to see what anyone else who chooses to be rational can see.

I am going to repeat something I said earlier in this thread: Bernie Sanders will never become President of the United States. I figured that out years ago when I initially gave him a chance but realize that there was nothing to him except rants against the millionaihs, the billionaihs, and "The Establishment." The Establishment. Is not a straight white man who has been a career politician since 1981 a member of The Establishment? Of course he's not, because the progressive purity test always grades Saint Bernard on a curve. :laughat:

Do not get upset when he fails to run away with the primary. Do not get upset when a lot of people prefer Warren, Biden, Harris, Klobuchar, or Booker over him. Inside the Sanders bubble exist the only people who refuse to understand why, and you have decisively proven that over the course of this thread. :lol:

Your identity politicking is garbage. You have learned nothing. Pathetic. Blame everyone else but your useless hrc. Take this trash and dump it elsewhere. We have nothing to gain from fraternization. Anyone can see which one of us said theyd vote blue no matter who and it wasnt you.

Good riddance and enjoy the silence.
 
Your identity politicking is garbage. You have learned nothing. Pathetic. Blame everyone else but your useless hrc. Take this trash and dump it elsewhere. We have nothing to gain from fraternization. Anyone can see which one of us said theyd vote blue no matter who and it wasnt you.

Good riddance and enjoy the silence.

You are free to lose the attitude and actually hold your Messiah accountable at any time. ;) But you won't do that for the reasons that have already been clearly laid out for you. You want Saint Bernard to be completely free from any kind of scrutiny, and you grow hostile and defensive when that scrutiny comes.

Once you are ready to finally calm down, the answers you seek have been given to you right here in this thread. Go back and reread my words again, as slowly as you need to read them. It's all there. Nothing needs to be subtracted. :thumbs: All you have to do is lower your hostile barrier and stop painting anyone who provides that critique as an idiot or an enemy.

You should know, however, that it was your candidate who set this tone. It was your candidate who threw grenades into the 2016 primary and forced Hillary to try to smother them. She took licks again and again and again, yet she withstood those cheap shots as the strong woman that she is. She treated Sanders with kid gloves, and in retrospect it might have given her a better chance to defeat Trump had she taken a bare-knuckled approach to the divisive Bernard Sanders.

In short, your side started this, all of this, thus it is 100% on your side to stop this. We are not going to enable you people like we did in 2016. :)
 
This Thursday, on ABC, will be the third Democrat presidential debate. Ten candidates will square off in a three-hour debate.

Who do you think will win the debate?

Who do you think will lose the debate, as in, lose ground?

Who do you think might sneak up into the Biden vs. Warren vs. Sanders competition?

Here are the polling results for the month of August. Keep in mind I am only using the Democrat-approved national polls:

1. Joe Biden - 29%
2. Elizabeth Warren - 17%
3. Bernie Sanders - 14%
4. Kamala Harris - 7%
5. Pete Buttigieg - 5%
6. Andrew Yang - 3%
7. Cory Booker & Beto O'Rourke - 2%
9. Julian Casto, Tulsi Gabbard & Amy Klobuchar -1%
THIS Independent Voter only gives this huge field a modicum of attention. When the Dems roll out a final 4 I will listen to them. Until then...meh
 
THIS Independent Voter only gives this huge field a modicum of attention. When the Dems roll out a final 4 I will listen to them. Until then...meh

Start now, and I'll narrow it to three: Bernie, Elizabeth, and Biden. And pick Bernie.
 
Start now, and I'll narrow it to three: Bernie, Elizabeth, and Biden. And pick Bernie.

Patience, much can and will happen over the next 13 months.
 
I'd say 'dream ticket', but I think that's very unlikely.

I don't want either in the veep role. I want one in the whiteshouse and the other probably as attorney general.
 
This Thursday, on ABC, will be the third Democrat presidential debate. Ten candidates will square off in a three-hour debate.

Who do you think will win the debate?

Who do you think will lose the debate, as in, lose ground?

Who do you think might sneak up into the Biden vs. Warren vs. Sanders competition?

Here are the polling results for the month of August. Keep in mind I am only using the Democrat-approved national polls:

1. Joe Biden - 29%
2. Elizabeth Warren - 17%
3. Bernie Sanders - 14%
4. Kamala Harris - 7%
5. Pete Buttigieg - 5%
6. Andrew Yang - 3%
7. Cory Booker & Beto O'Rourke - 2%
9. Julian Casto, Tulsi Gabbard & Amy Klobuchar -1%

I'll tell you one thing the Democratic candidates won't be discussing: Penis size. They also won't be calling themselves childish nicknames such as "Little Marco" and "Low Energy Jeb".

Compared to the Repubicants the Dems are far more mature and dignified.
 
Tulsi Gabbard seems to have the best chance at swaying voters, because she isn't such a radical leftist.

Grampa Joe - Scatterbrained old coot who can't keep a thought in his head.
Pocahontas - Political whore who'll sell her grandchildren or make up any story for a vote.
Sanders - Old socialist coot who yells at the sky.

Tulsi didn't make the cut and unfortunately won't be in the next debate, unfortunately.
 
You are free to lose the attitude and actually hold your Messiah accountable at any time. ;) But you won't do that for the reasons that have already been clearly laid out for you. You want Saint Bernard to be completely free from any kind of scrutiny, and you grow hostile and defensive when that scrutiny comes.

Once you are ready to finally calm down, the answers you seek have been given to you right here in this thread. Go back and reread my words again, as slowly as you need to read them. It's all there. Nothing needs to be subtracted. :thumbs: All you have to do is lower your hostile barrier and stop painting anyone who provides that critique as an idiot or an enemy.

You should know, however, that it was your candidate who set this tone. It was your candidate who threw grenades into the 2016 primary and forced Hillary to try to smother them. She took licks again and again and again, yet she withstood those cheap shots as the strong woman that she is. She treated Sanders with kid gloves, and in retrospect it might have given her a better chance to defeat Trump had she taken a bare-knuckled approach to the divisive Bernard Sanders.

In short, your side started this, all of this, thus it is 100% on your side to stop this. We are not going to enable you people like we did in 2016. :)

It’s the Faux Left of the DEMolition Squad. Btw, I was quite serious when I told another poster that politicians must face their problems head on. That was Trump today, showing respect to all of the candidates. That’s the turn I’ve been expecting.

He’ll still be the nickname guy. That and two to four word phrases are what his folks love. Sen. Warren should go to Pocahontas County in Iowa and have one of her huge rallies she’s been having there. Leave the Left Faux Bros no room to sabotage her. That’s how she could face that problem.

Go to every town in the USA named Pocahontas. There’s a lot of them, all in red CDs. WV, MO, IL off the top. All Democrats must step up and defend each other from Trump’s Twitter, or they’ll be the ten little Indians with Big Chief Trump, again.
 
Then don't debate me. We both know you never bother to actually address points you disagree with because you're afraid you may be convinced your ideology is terrible.

Those are your opinions, not mine. I do see you failed to address my claim of socialism in reverse.

Typical.

And again, not my fault; anyone can see it.

Those wanting socialism to come to the US always claim that we are already socialist. Therefore, nothing to change.
 
Everyone is familiar with Liz's American Indian story that ingloriously fell apart for her.
But I just read a story claiming that she's descended from an Indian fighter ... that is, a guy who fought Indians.

Yup, the claim is that her great-great-great grandfather, Jonathan Crawford, was in a Tennessee volunteer militia battalion in the 1830's that battled the Seminole tribe a couple of times.
As Larry O'Donnell might say, "If true, that's gotta burn".
 
I don't want either in the veep role. I want one in the whiteshouse and the other probably as attorney general.

One will stay in the Senate and help them with legislation.
 
Socialism. We have it.
 
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