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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    This is appalling. My sympathies are extended to you with best wishes for your mother's recovery. Cancer took my mother some twenty years ago, and all of her lengthy and costly treatment, including surgery, cost nothing here in England. America's healthcare needs to be fixed; no excuses.
    Thank you for your sympathies and you have mine in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Given CNN's really impressive track record for putting out the most fake news, and their dedicated effort to destroy business and consumer confidence and crash the economy, I'll go with this account:

    U.S. Median Household Income Rose To Record High In 2018 - munKNEE.com

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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    I wonder how many of those poor, poor uninsured own an unlimited cell plan.
    I wonder how many of them own a $65k land yacht, when a $20k car would suffice.
    I wonder how many of them are in, over their heads, with a house they can barely afford.

    Choices have consequences.
    Surely you have documentation to back up these claims?

    Cite your sources, please. Academic sources, please. No Breitbart, Dailey Caller or Fox News.

    Oh wait. - you posted “I wonder,” which means you know nothing. Just a very uneducated guess.

    New drinking game. Every time somebody says Yale, you take a shot. Pretty soon we can be as sloppy drunk as Brett Kavanaugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    aaaaaand another perfect example of the problem with people being factually uneducated/ignorant, dishonest and or simply not caring about the issue.
    Right? He just jumped right over the “steak and lobster being paid for by food stamps” and went straight to a yacht.

    Edited to add: I read the post wrong. I wondered why he didn’t include the “welfare Cadillac,” but when I reread the post, he did include it. So not a real yacht, a land yacht. His post would have been almost perfect if he’d included the steak in the shopping cart in front of him, paid for by food stamps.

    New drinking game. Every time somebody says Yale, you take a shot. Pretty soon we can be as sloppy drunk as Brett Kavanaugh!

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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.)again its better than what we had by far. Yes I agree many individual republicans put things in place to hinder it and try to kill it and thats exactly my point. BOTH sides do retarded things that we the people suffer for instead of just simply working to make it better.
    Is it better? Yes. In SOME facets. In others, it was an abject failure. The republicants did absolutely kill a bill, which had it's genesis in the HEART bill from the 90's, which WAS a republican bill. Amusing when you consider the right would have been for the ACA before it was proposed by Obama. The ACA was a compromise, and the right simply rejected it; this is why the ACA is a failure; it was rejected by radical ideologues who are unwilling to compromise, yet demand the left pick someone for president that is to the right's liking.

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    2.) I wont be getting into republicans this, democrats that because thats part of the problem. Im not hopeful but i miss the days when a good idea was a good idea no matter who had it and when something needed improvement we did that instead of jockeying for power and position of who gets credit for the improvement. But I do agree the mentality of super gross profit is wrong and part of the problem.
    Super gross profit is a problem yes, but let's be entirely clear here; a single payer system would be more fiscally conservative than fiscally liberal; it would save money. It absolutely -is- a republican this problem, and until you address that, you're not staying current in the conversation.

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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Right? He just jumped right over the “steak and lobster being paid for by food stamps” and went straight to a yacht.

    Edited to add: I read the post wrong. I wondered why he didn’t include the “welfare Cadillac,” but when I reread the post, he did include it. So not a real yacht, a land yacht. His post would have been almost perfect if he’d included the steak in the shopping cart in front of him, paid for by food stamps.
    But I thought that Cadillac was free. Don't black people get free Cadillacs?

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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    It is of importance to know what President of the United States of America Donald Trump has said about his position on health care.

    "Obamacare. We're going to repeal it, we're going to replace it, get something great. Repeal it, replace it, get something great!"

    "If you can't take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it's all over. I mean, it's no good. So I'm very liberal when it comes to healthcare. I believe in universal healthcare. [talics mine.] I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better."

    "There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, 'No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private' I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now."

    Given the latest figures for the number of uninsured in this country, perhaps the President is backing up for a better start, no? He is, after all, scrupulous in hewing to his word.
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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Right? He just jumped right over the “steak and lobster being paid for by food stamps” and went straight to a yacht.

    Edited to add: I read the post wrong. I wondered why he didn’t include the “welfare Cadillac,” but when I reread the post, he did include it. So not a real yacht, a land yacht. His post would have been almost perfect if he’d included the steak in the shopping cart in front of him, paid for by food stamps.
    Yeah it was pretty classic of the typical post void of reality
    Sadly ive heard people make those comments in real life and i always found it weird because in my 40+ years ive never been in line at the market and paid that much attention to what the people had in front of me, and certainly not enough to compare their items to mine and be angry if there stuff was better and they were on assistance.

    are there people that game the system and does it not work out properly at times? absolutely. Does that mean scrap it, hate all those involved and play the victim card . . nope lol I support "probably" all safety net programs but i also admit the abuse that goes on and thats what needs fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    1.) Is it better? Yes. In SOME facets.
    2.) In others, it was an abject failure.
    3.) The republicants did absolutely kill a bill, which had it's genesis in the HEART bill from the 90's, which WAS a republican bill. Amusing when you consider the right would have been for the ACA before it was proposed by Obama. The ACA was a compromise, and the right simply rejected it; this is why the ACA is a failure; it was rejected by radical ideologues who are unwilling to compromise, yet demand the left pick someone for president that is to the right's liking.
    Super gross profit is a problem yes, but let's be entirely clear here; a single payer system would be more fiscally conservative than fiscally liberal; it would save money. It absolutely -is- a republican this problem, and until you address that, you're not staying current in the conversation.
    1.) and thats what I said, it is better
    2.) if thats the case then we simply work to fix improve those areas but overall its still better
    3.) never said they didnt, they are to blame for THIS aspect, they have worked hard to roadblock it and falsely criticize things they agreed with in the past sure but theres more than enough blame to go around for our healthcare issues that just didnt magically happen overnight. Like i said i wont pick one side to blame cause thats counterproductive in a problem thats been stewing for decades.
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    Re: Health Insurance Coverage Declines

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) and thats what I said, it is better
    2.) if thats the case then we simply work to fix improve those areas but overall its still better
    3.) never said they didnt, they are to blame for THIS aspect, they have worked hard to roadblock it and falsely criticize things they agreed with in the past sure but theres more than enough blame to go around for our healthcare issues that just didnt magically happen overnight. Like i said i wont pick one side to blame cause thats counterproductive in a problem thats been stewing for decades.
    Disagree. The republicants are the primary problem with healthcare. The number one issue is republicants and their constituency.
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