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Revolving Door Continues!

trixare4kids said:
Oh the horrors!
Trump fires a known warmonger.
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Why did he hire a known warmonger in the first place?

It seems you're in denial about how incompetent Trump is if he's always firing the people he hired.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Turnover in any industry is commonplace. :shrug
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Not THIS commonplace. This is Trumps 4th National Security Adviser in under 3 years.

4 served under Obama during two full terms (8 years).

FOX is running out of sacrificial lambs. Maybe Hannity will give it a go. He'd be taking a massive pay cut though.
 
Praxas said:
Nope if they were THE BEST, they wouldn't need firing. Your free to ignore Trump's lies, I'm not. Deal with it. Time to own your Trumptard's lies.
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No, not quite. When it comes to knowledge of the worlds players and their impact upon our national security, John Bolton IS one of the best people. The problem was Boltons Rx seemed to always involve the military. Trump may be many things but one he is not is a president out looking to get us involved in foreign wars. Bolton is the type of guy that fits in a Bush administration, not a Trump administration.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Turnover in any industry is commonplace. :shrug
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Really? If it is so commonplace, then I am sure you can give me examples of other presidents or even other companies like Facebook, Amazon, Google or any other where an 80% turnover rate was seen in the first 3 years? Any example will do.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
He believes they are the BEST when he hires them, then they underperform. Happens all the time. Move on.
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Does the word "research" make any sense?

It is "commonplace" to be wrong 10% or even 20% of the time but when you are wrong 80% of the time, the problem is you and not anyone else.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Why did he hire a known warmonger in the first place?

It seems you're in denial about how incompetent Trump is if he's always firing the people he hired.
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If I remember right, Bolton was brought in to handle our exit from the Iran deal and the summit with Kim. Could be that Bolton just outlived his usefulness.
 
jnug said:
The Trump Administration is dysfunctional at best, perilously, dangerously dysfunctional. Attempts to push a false narrative suggesting this is normal should be met with outright laughter. Great, lets have another ACTING at the top of the National Security Organization of Orange Wild Man's WH. That is all we have....either actings or political hacks and often both at the same time.

If we survive these atrocities, this atrocity will just become another nail in Trump's re-election effort, not because people particularly care for Bolton but because each and every move Trump makes in the WH quite obviously has nothing to do with the administration of the Executive Branch and everything to do with trying to be re-elected to that same post.

For all the goons that thought they were voting for the anti-politician, SURPRISE, you got the uber-politician instead. Quite possibly the greatest bait and switch in the history of American Politics.
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This entire country is dysfunctional- and it continues in spite of that-
 
Gdjjr said:
This entire country is dysfunctional- and it continues in spite of that-
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Yup, with Dysfunctional Donnie at the helm.

This too will pass.
 
ecofarm said:
I'll take the money and the fifteen minutes. Where do I sign.
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I don't doubt hundreds or thousands of conservative incompetents would put personal gain over their country's health and security.

At this point, after Numnuts fired this third national security advisor, we know he doesn't have a problem with the person, he disagrees with the intelligence they bring him. It just doesn't fit his narrative.

It's pathetic and dangerous that we're counting on his imagined personal relationships with our enemies for our country's security. He's like a child playing with fire for the first time...
 
SoCal said:
I don't doubt hundreds or thousands of conservative incompetents would put personal gain over their country's health and security.
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I'm a PhD educated independent and social progressive.

Anyone that wouldn't jump at the opportunity to serve on a US Presidential cabinet is a fool.
 
excellent, Bolton was too much of a hawk.
 
The interesting bit of irony in all of this is that while John Bolton is the very definition of a nut job chicken hawk, the entire reason why he is gone today and the entire reason why his take on the idiot Secret Taliban Camp David meeting was the only correct take between sniveling hack, Pompeo, grinning idiot Trump and Chicken Hawk Bolton is because Bolton refused to give up his principles for DonDon the 1st. He would not do it. Stunning to think that the only backbone left in the entire administration at the cabinet and sub-cabinet level was between John Bolton's shoulder blades.
 
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ecofarm said:
I'm a PhD educated independent and social progressive.

Anyone that wouldn't jump at the opportunity to serve on a US Presidential cabinet is a fool.
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You could write a tell-all book afterwards, but as far as getting a respectable job, you'd be screwed.
 
SkyFox76 said:
Exactly! He's the one bringing these people in and telling us how wonderful and qualified they are. Until they aren't.

In the article I saw it said Trump was afraid Bolton was damaging his credibility. This coming from a guy that just recently held up an official NOAA map with magic marker scribbled on it!! :doh :lamo
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what makes you think Bolton was NOT qualified? he absolutely was. but he was a warhawk.
 
bearpoker said:
You could write a tell-all book afterwards, but as far as getting a respectable job, you'd be screwed.
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Absurd. Nothing on my resume compares to Presidential Cabinet Member.
 
i'm very glad to see Bolton sent packing. hopefully this means that the US has at least a chance of avoiding another extended war in the Middle East.
 
Helix said:
i'm very glad to see Bolton sent packing. hopefully this means that the US has at least a chance of avoiding another extended war in the Middle East.
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We won't if DonDon thinks it will get him re-elected. Bolton was only relevant in the Bush years because Bush ceded power to Chaney and Chaney/Bolton made a third person of immense influence in matters of National Security.

Bolton is a mere triviality with DonDon in the WH. DonDon is the war threat...it was not Bolton.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm a PhD educated independent and social progressive.

Anyone that wouldn't jump at the opportunity to serve on a US Presidential cabinet is a fool.
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Apparently you are not aware that the stench from serving under Trump tends to follow the departed, to the point where many are finding out that their service is actually a liability, not an asset.

Just saying "Derp derp, I worked at the White House" isn't an automatic gold ring.
In the real world, working for a reality tee vee prezzy-dint means you're not connected to actual reality, in the real world, and employers have a keen sense of that problem where ex-Trump staffers are concerned.

Not even BUSH WH staffers encountered problems getting hired after they left.
Trump might just be the very first president for whom a person's service to him is a negative in the job market.
 
jnug said:
We won't if DonDon thinks it will get him re-elected. Bolton was only relevant in the Bush years because Bush ceded power to Chaney and Chaney/Bolton made a third person of immense influence in matters of National Security.

Bolton is a mere triviality with DonDon in the WH. DonDon is the war threat...it was not Bolton.
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one less neocon war hawk in Mango's ear is a good thing. however, he could replace him with someone worse, and often does.
 
Helix said:
one less neocon war hawk in Mango's ear is a good thing. however, he could replace him with someone worse, and often does.
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Hannity? :lamo
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Apparently you are not aware that the stench from serving under Trump tends to follow the departed, to the point where many are finding out that their service is actually a liability, not an asset.

Just saying "Derp derp, I worked at the White House" isn't an automatic gold ring.
In the real world, working for a reality tee vee prezzy-dint means you're not connected to actual reality, in the real world, and employers have a keen sense of that problem where ex-Trump staffers are concerned.

Not even BUSH WH staffers encountered problems getting hired after they left.
Trump might just be the very first president for whom a person's service to him is a negative in the job market.
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Saying "I was a Presidential Cabinet Member" is a gold ring. A golden ticket. One has seen, personally witnessed, what less than .00001% of the population has. One has had access to intel unlike anyone else. One has had access to the inner mechanization of the most significant political office in the world.

I'm no fan of Trump, but come on. A job is a job. And that's a job I'll never qualify for. So to put it on my resume changes my life.
 
ecofarm said:
Saying "I was a Presidential Cabinet Member" is a gold ring. A golden ticket. One has seen, personally witnessed, what less than .00001% of the population has. One has had access to intel unlike anyone else. One has had access to the inner mechanization of the most significant political office in the world.

I'm no fan of Trump, but come on. A job is a job. And that's a job I'll never qualify for. So to put it on my resume changes my life.
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Eco, I just pointed out that, in this current administration, the NORM (work at WH, huge boost for job prospects) is NOT functioning as it did in prior administrations.
I pointed it out with TWO different sources.

I pointed it out! Used to be if you worked in the WH under ANY administration it was a gold ring.
For the first time in history, as I POINTED OUT, it is a liability.

Hey, don't take my word for it.

Google Search: "Former Trump staff can't find work"

Take your pick.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Eco, I just pointed out that, in this current administration, the NORM (work at WH, huge boost for job prospects) is NOT functioning as it did in prior administrations.
I pointed it out with TWO different sources.

I pointed it out! Used to be if you worked in the WH under ANY administration it was a gold ring.
For the first time in history, as I POINTED OUT, it is a liability.

Hey, don't take my word for it.

Google Search: "Former Trump staff can't find work"

Take your pick.
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It might not function that way for people that are qualified and thus have similar prospects. But I'm not and I don't, and I would after the job.
 
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