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Bad Hews For Democrats: 6.2 Million Individuals Off Food Stamps Under Trump

Pound4abrown said:
Come to Maine, there are at least two I have seen in my entire life that did buy lobster. One looked about 102, but nevertheless.
Red states don't seem to think this is going to affect any low employed republicans, because, well they don't believe that republicans are on Food Supplement.
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I’ve been to Maine and had to be pulled kicking and screaming to get me out of there. :lol: Loved it there, and not just for the lobster.

And lobster is a lot cheaper there than here. I would assume it’s be like buying chicken breast here or something.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Just between you and me, I don't think there's very much ambiguity with the number of births compared to the number of deaths. There, uh, aren't many halfway cases of either. Can't really comment on the CPI - I'm no economics expert!
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The "birth/death adjustment" is jobs the BLS add to the estimated total based on the observation that population growth is positive (i.e. more births than deaths) and the assumption that x% of people born 18 years ago will be coming into the workforce today.

I can't recall exactly what x they use, but suppose for sake of example it's 50. They look at the population tables from 2001 to 2002 and see that US population grew by 1.5 million that year. Hence they get to add 50% of 1.5 M = 750K jobs to the total "jobs created" column when calculating the net total gains or losses.

Are 50% of 18-year-olds coming into the workforce this year? The hell if the BLS knows. That's just the way they've done things for decades, and changing it now might ratch the numbers and shake all-important "consumer confidence".
 
chuckiechan said:
6.2 Million Individuals Off Food Stamps Under Trump | Breitbart



The biggest threat to socialists is a person drawing a paycheck he earned.

If the average food stamp issue is $200 a month, that’s 2.5 billion dollars.
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From your article it says...

After 2013, SNAP enrollment plunged once state legislatures passed laws requiring food stamp recipients to work, attend school, volunteer, or participate in job training for at least 20 hours per week to receive benefits.

Food stamp participation plummeted even further once President Trump took office, as 6.2 million individuals and 2.7 million households dropped out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) since his first full month in office.
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Was Trump president in 2013?

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Trump supporters always make stuff up and exaggerate economic stats to try and make this disaster of a president look good.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Oh yeah, they absoultely will vote for him again.

2 things I learned big time about the current Republican base-----

1) they don't mind being lied to

2) they don't vote for their own interest because they've been brainwashed into believing ANYONE, even a lying classless conman billionaire from Manhattan who doesn't give a rats ass about them or their families, is better than a Democrat.
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Who do you think better represents the interests of Republicans?
 
Jesse Booth said:
The issue is, a large part of the drop in food stamp usage is because the exemptions to work requirements have expired. Not everyone getting off of food stamps is doing so because they've become better employed, much in the same way that not everyone who gets removed from the unemployment statistics has gained a job. There are, in fact more people employed, and there are, in fact more people that don't need food stamps, but these do not by any means account for the entire drop in either.

A libertarian animation channel actually had a really good video about why counts like these aren't exactly something to cheer about in many cases. You might like it, it's pretty funny.

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Nothing incentivizes like necessity. Want to eat, you gotta earn it, not put your hand out.
 
Renae said:
Nothing incentivizes like necessity. Want to eat, you gotta earn it, not put your hand out.
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That's why illegal aliens are a better workforce than citizens. That is the whole point behind open borders, the lower the labor costs the lower consumer prices and the less obvious increased taxes are.

I would think even the most jaded would see a fall in social cost as a good thing. But I guess they aren't taxpayers.
 
chuckiechan said:
That's why illegal aliens are a better workforce than citizens. That is the whole point behind open borders, the lower the labor costs the lower consumer prices and the less obvious increased taxes are.

I would think even the most jaded would see a fall in social cost as a good thing. But I guess they aren't taxpayers.
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No, open borders is about destroying the culture that is and creating a dependency culture run by the permanent political class.
 
Pound4abrown said:
Come to Maine, there are at least two I have seen in my entire life that did buy lobster. One looked about 102, but nevertheless.
Red states don't seem to think this is going to affect any low employed republicans, because, well they don't believe that republicans are on Food Supplement.
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It was probably too difficult for the aged gentleman to get to the beach to grab a couple.
 
Renae said:
Nothing incentivizes like necessity. Want to eat, you gotta earn it, not put your hand out.
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That's a nice* sentiment and all, but food stamps average about $126 a month per person. Slightly less than 2 dollars per meal isn't going to be a deterrent from working.
 
Jesse Booth said:
That's a nice* sentiment and all, but food stamps average about $126 a month per person. Slightly less than 2 dollars per meal isn't going to be a deterrent from working.
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I wish we could relocate people to where the jobs are, or move the jobs where the people are.
 
chuckiechan said:
I wish we could relocate people to where the jobs are, or move the jobs where the people are.
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I would imagine that a great many of the unemployed wish that were the case, as well. There are a couple hypothetical systems that could help accomplish that, but they'd all probably get shot down as socialism or handouts. The first off the top of my head would simply be a voucher system for people struggling to find work, to get them in line for a job, affordable housing near said job & transport to the area of the job. Expanding the funding and availability of programs like Job Corps would be a real boon for that, too, and it'd work off of an already existing system so there'd be far less opposition to it. That only helps very young people from lower socioeconomic rungs for getting new skills, though, so you'd have to open it up to older folks to help them out. Not sure how well that'd go over in Congress.
 
chuckiechan said:
I wish we could relocate people to where the jobs are, or move the jobs where the people are.
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100s of thousands of Central American's WALKED ( or at least that is the narrative. How they arrived fat, well dressed with cellphones is a mystery) But anyway, Americans moved, risked all to move for to opportunity for centuries; what happened?
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There was no requirement of any kind that the rich and large corps need meet to get $2T in tax giveaways in Trumps largess tax plan. Just a promise that they would do something with the money that would benefit most Americans, which it has not. It's only added to the wealth of the rich and large corps and increased the wealth gap. If working people were paid a living wage, SNAP payments would drop significantly. SNAP and other government assistance to those with the least allows business to pay workers less, knowing they have gov't assist to fall back on. It subsidizes payroll.
 
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