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Bodhisattva said:
and the professor says all that because Science keeps discovering new things... eventually it will probably be able to prove that there never was a God.
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First let's see how science proves life began on earth as an unplanned accident of nature.
 
Lisa said:
You are trying to support you belief in creation and you are adamant that religious nonsense be taught in public schools because you refuse to see the facts and instead embrace the lies of AiG. Public schools are not to be used as a recruiting ground for religious belief by mentioning their unsupported ideas in opposition to proven fact just because you claim that ther is a controversy.

Science is proven because it would not be science if it were otherwise. It would still be called a hypothesis. You either cannot follow it or because you are intellectually unable to do so or you have a psychological block that doesn't permit you to accept it.
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Secularists taught evolution as science and pointed to the Piltdown Man as proof for nearly 50 years. That is evolutionists teaching kids lies for fifty years and you think that is OK?
 
ElChupacabra said:
How do you know they're not "honest searchers for truth"? Also, why would they have assumed what I placed in bold above?
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When mammoth bones and dinosaur bones are both tested and found to be 40,000 years old or so, why do Darwinists reject the dinosaur results?
 
marke said:
Secularists taught evolution as science and pointed to the Piltdown Man as proof for nearly 50 years. That is evolutionists teaching kids lies for fifty years and you think that is OK?
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Science caught the hoax of the discoverer itself. This is how science works.
Religion is still lying to people about the last 4000 years.

Dawson and Smith Woodward started working together, making further discoveries in the area. They found a set of teeth, a jawbone, more skull fragments and primitive tools, which they suggested belonged to the same individual.

Smith Woodward made a reconstruction of the skull fragments, and the archaeologists hypothesised that the find indicated evidence of a human ancestor living 500,000 years ago. They announced their discovery at a Geological Society meeting in 1912. For the most part, their story was accepted in good faith.

However, in 1949 new dating technology arrived that changed scientific opinion on the age of the remains Using fluorine tests, Dr Kenneth Oakley, a geologist at the Natural History Museum, discovered that the Piltdown remains were only 50,000 years old. This eliminated the possibility of the Piltdown Man being the missing link between humans and apes as at this point in time humans had already developed into their Homo sapiens form.

Following this, biological anthropologist Dr Joseph Weiner and human anatomist Wilfrid Le Gros Clark, both from Oxford University, worked with Dr Oakley to further test the age of the Piltdown findings. Their results showed that the skull and jaw fragments actually came from two different species, a human and an ape, probably an orangutan.
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Piltdown Man | Natural History Museum
 
marke said:
When mammoth bones and dinosaur bones are both tested and found to be 40,000 years old or so, why do Darwinists reject the dinosaur results?
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Do you have a link to this claim?
 
marke said:
When mammoth bones and dinosaur bones are both tested and found to be 40,000 years old or so, why do Darwinists reject the dinosaur results?
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Oh you're not going to cite that newgeology website are you?
 
Lisa said:
Science caught the hoax of the discoverer itself. This is how science works.
Religion is still lying to people about the last 4000 years.
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Christians claimed from day one that Piltdown Man was a hoax but evolutionists would not listen, especially the highly educated, well respected scientific leaders. They promoted the Piltdown Man at the Scopes Monkey Trial along with several other later debunked 'evidences' supporting evolution. Now evolutionists want to take credit for spotting the fraud in 1953 as if nobody had ever done so in the previous 45 years.

Piltdown Man was the first missing link ever 'found.' Modern evolutionists don't seem to understand what that means. There are no missing link fossils to be found. There should be billions of them and there are none. Evolution is a scientific hoax.
 
marke said:
Leftist exclamation, "That is a lie!" Does not qualify as a refutation.
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It's not, it's because the science doesn't add up to support your claim and those who originally made it. Then the basis seems to be that it's being suppressed because scientists don't want their theory refuted. That's tin foil hat territory.
 
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marke said:
First let's see how science proves life began on earth as an unplanned accident of nature.
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It will probably never be able to prove it beyond the theories... it was a couple of BILLION years ago. There is far more evidence to support how life began and how the universe began that there is about anything about God existing.
 
marke said:
When mammoth bones and dinosaur bones are both tested and found to be 40,000 years old or so, why do Darwinists reject the dinosaur results?
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What dinosaur bones are 40,000 years old? ... and you do know that crocodiles and other living things lived during the time of the dinosaur's as well... right?
 
Bodhisattva said:
What dinosaur bones are 40,000 years old? ... and you do know that crocodiles and other living things lived during the time of the dinosaur's as well... right?
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Have you ever looked into the serious discrepancies between assumptive evolutionist narratives and the facts uncovered in the fossil record at Bone Valley, Florida? I don't meet many evolutionists who have heard of the tremendous fossil record at Bone Valley or who have even cared that the facts prove the evolutionist narratives to be lies.
 
marke said:
Have you ever looked into the serious discrepancies between assumptive evolutionist narratives and the facts uncovered in the fossil record at Bone Valley, Florida? I don't meet many evolutionists who have heard of the tremendous fossil record at Bone Valley or who have even cared that the facts prove the evolutionist narratives to be lies.
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Where Exactly Is Bone Valley? - General Fossil Discussion - The Fossil Forum

The locals can do a better job of this than I can, but my understanding is that Bone Valley is a Miocene or Pliocene formation outcropping in SW FL inland from Ft Meyers/Sarasota, outcropping in a few places along the Peace River which may be accessible by boat as well as in the phosphate pits with the sexy megs which are basically inaccessible from what I hear.
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The Pliocene much much older than 50,000 years CE
The Pliocene ( /ˈplaɪəˌsiːn/; also Pleiocene) Epoch is the epoch in the geologic timescale that extends from 5.333 million to 2.58 million years BP.
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marke said:
Have you ever looked into the serious discrepancies between assumptive evolutionist narratives and the facts uncovered in the fossil record at Bone Valley, Florida? I don't meet many evolutionists who have heard of the tremendous fossil record at Bone Valley or who have even cared that the facts prove the evolutionist narratives to be lies.
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You think that evolution is a lie?
 
marke said:
Dummass, God-rejecting, Darwin-loving, secular idiot who thinks he knows it all: "Yup. No greater evidence of evolution than that homosexuals descended from bonobos and that humans are still apes and that intelligence is not real it is just a chemical imbalance controlled by the god 'natural selection.'."
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Ignoring the personal attack, the difference between my point and yours is that mine is lifted straight from the Bible, our source of knowledge about your god, while yours is lifted straight from your arse. How about you explain the science behind light existing on earth before the creation of the sun?
 
marke said:
But what you don't get is the fact that you cannot explain how life originated and then even fare worse when attempting to explain where the thinking process came from come from and how thougts work in bodies which supposedly have no souls or spirits.
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Neither can you. :lol:
 
Lisa said:
Where Exactly Is Bone Valley? - General Fossil Discussion - The Fossil Forum
The Pliocene much much older than 50,000 years CE
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Bone Valley has been described by some respectable science organizations as one of the most important and remarkable fossil finds in America. The problem with the fossils uncovered there is that so many of them are not in the proper evolutionist order as laid down by long standing evolutionist dogma. The evolutionists would do themselves a favor if they would simply reassess those old assertions and correct them but that is not what they are doing about the problem. What they seem to be doing best to solve their problem is just ignoring the site and making light of the fossils found there.
 
spud_meister said:
Ignoring the personal attack, the difference between my point and yours is that mine is lifted straight from the Bible, our source of knowledge about your god, while yours is lifted straight from your arse. How about you explain the science behind light existing on earth before the creation of the sun?
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God created light 3 days before He created the sun. People who think that is impossible don't know the possibilities that exist in science and do not understand the power and nature of God.

What can we learn from God's record?

1. The six days of creation were not 6 eons of creation like some foolishly imagine. Six days were six days.

2. Since light existed before the sun, moon, or stars, human scientists are wrong if they imagine the light they see today from distant stars must have travelled billions of years before reaching earth.

3. Light is not a particle nor a wave, but something scientists have yet been unable to figure out, much like God is impossible for humans to comprehend without help from God.
 
spud_meister said:
Ignoring the personal attack, the difference between my point and yours is that mine is lifted straight from the Bible, our source of knowledge about your god, while yours is lifted straight from your arse. How about you explain the science behind light existing on earth before the creation of the sun?
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Uh-oh... you asked for it!

marke said:
God created light 3 days before He created the sun. People who think that is impossible don't know the possibilities that exist in science and do not understand the power and nature of God.

What can we learn from God's record?

1. The six days of creation were not 6 eons of creation like some foolishly imagine. Six days were six days.

2. Since light existed before the sun, moon, or stars, human scientists are wrong if they imagine the light they see today from distant stars must have travelled billions of years before reaching earth.

3. Light is not a particle nor a wave, but something scientists have yet been unable to figure out, much like God is impossible for humans to comprehend without help from God.
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AND YOU GOT IT!!

The stars are not stars, or suns, they are pinpricks of light that God made by putting a tack through the darkness of space where on the other side is God's light illuminated from his glowing pointer finger...
 
marke said:
God created light 3 days before He created the sun. People who think that is impossible don't know the possibilities that exist in science and do not understand the power and nature of God.

What can we learn from God's record?

1. The six days of creation were not 6 eons of creation like some foolishly imagine. Six days were six days.

2. Since light existed before the sun, moon, or stars, human scientists are wrong if they imagine the light they see today from distant stars must have travelled billions of years before reaching earth.

3. Light is not a particle nor a wave, but something scientists have yet been unable to figure out, much like God is impossible for humans to comprehend without help from God.
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Just saying goddidit isn't scientific. If you can't explain why light is separate from photons, you're no better than the atheists you're criticising.
 
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