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marke said:
Like I said. Misinterpretations of the Bible are of no use to me.
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Matthew 7:12,
In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads: Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you: do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. ... shall also do to them; for this is the law and the prophets.
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What am I misinterpreting?

Deuteronomy 17,
2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the Lord gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God in violation of his covenant, 3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, 4 and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 7 The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you.
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Do you plan to obey all of Leviticus or just those passages that support your current opinions?

Book of Leviticus - Read, Study Bible Verses Online

SHould chruitian bakers, flouirst and prrinters refuse to serve those of other religions because ytou claim that marriage is Christian or just gay people?
 
Lisa said:
Matthew 7:12,
What am I misinterpreting?
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I do to others what I would have them do to me. If I am wrong I want others to tell me. That is not complicated. If others are wrong I should want to help them see the error of their ways.

Deuteronomy 17,
Do you plan to obey all of Leviticus or just those passages that support your current opinions?

Book of Leviticus - Read, Study Bible Verses Online

SHould chruitian bakers, flouirst and prrinters refuse to serve those of other religions because ytou claim that marriage is Christian or just gay people?
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God has clearly said that the OT laws are for the OT Jews, not NT Christians.
 
marke said:
I do to others what I would have them do to me. If I am wrong I want others to tell me. That is not complicated. If others are wrong I should want to help them see the error of their ways.
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What you believe is not the same as what they believe and we have seen quite clearly that you commonly reject facts, logic, and science. Did you ever consider that they aren't asking for what you like? so keep your nose and your religious beliefs out of where it isn't welcome.



God has clearly said that the OT laws are for the OT Jews, not NT Christians.
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Why do you care about what Leviticus says when you admit that Leviticus the OT is for Levite Jews? Jesus said nothing about LGB people. Matthew 19:12 can be interpreted as referring to trans people.
 
Moderate Right said:
It is obvious that our country disgusts you. That's why we want to make America Great Again.
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You are on record here at DP as claiming ' it is better to elect a pedophile than a Democrat.' Enlighten us, and explain in 'detail' as to why you profess electing pedophiles to public office, in any manner, ' makes America great again' ?. Maybe you could start by sharing just which pedophiles you endorse over Democrats.
 
Logician Man said:
You are on record here at DP as claiming ' it is better to elect a pedophile than a Democrat.' Enlighten us, and explain in 'detail' as to why you profess electing pedophiles to public office, in any manner, ' makes America great again' ?. Maybe you could start by sharing just which pedophiles you endorse over Democrats.
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LOL. So you want to elect creepy joe?
 
Moderate Right said:
LOL. So you want to elect creepy joe?
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Doesn't get any creepier than outing oneself as preferring a pedophile over a political adversary. You still standing by that post ?
 
marke said:
I do to others what I would have them do to me. If I am wrong I want others to tell me. That is not complicated. If others are wrong I should want to help them see the error of their ways.



God has clearly said that the OT laws are for the OT Jews, not NT Christians.
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That is a convienient dodge, given the number of New Testament Christians who still spew Old Testament law when they are out screaming that we should legally be discriminating against gays and such. If the OT is only supposed to be for the OT Jews, then why are there so many New Testament and Born Again Christians who use it as the go to for the justification of thier bigotry?
 
calamity said:
Values? You mean stealing land and enslaving millions of people; those values?
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The Indians attacked first in the Powhatan attack of 1622... slaughtering hundreds.
 
marke said:
God created light 3 days before He created the sun. People who think that is impossible don't know the possibilities that exist in science and do not understand the power and nature of God.

What can we learn from God's record?

1. The six days of creation were not 6 eons of creation like some foolishly imagine. Six days were six days.

2. Since light existed before the sun, moon, or stars, human scientists are wrong if they imagine the light they see today from distant stars must have travelled billions of years before reaching earth.

3. Light is not a particle nor a wave, but something scientists have yet been unable to figure out, much like God is impossible for humans to comprehend without help from God.
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Your description of God is that he's a fallible being constrained to linear concepts of time and space. If God is not perfect and all-powerful, then by definition he is not worthy of worship.
 
marke said:
Like I said. Misinterpretations of the Bible are of no use to me.
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Well that's the interesting thing isn't it? One's person's misinterpretations are another's interpretations. This has plagued religions for quite some time and led to sectarian conflicts. Christianity isn't interpreted the same universally either; core tenets may be the same, but also plenty of other views. The same goes for most religions.
 
marke said:
I do to others what I would have them do to me. If I am wrong I want others to tell me. That is not complicated. If others are wrong I should want to help them see the error of their ways.



God has clearly said that the OT laws are for the OT Jews, not NT Christians.
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Is that right? So are the 10 Commandments out the window too? Seems like there's a lot of picking and choosing to do then; and what criteria do you use to select what's acceptable and what isn't?
 
ElChupacabra said:
Is that right? So are the 10 Commandments out the window too? Seems like there's a lot of picking and choosing to do then; and what criteria do you use to select what's acceptable and what isn't?
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See, thats the biggest problem as I see it.

If the Bible was ACTUALLY the word of God and not a conglomeration of stories that were merely inspired by God, this would all be a hell of a lot clearer.

Oh, and the picking and choosing was done in Nicea, for those keeping score. Sure, they may want a do over here in the last century or so, but its already happened at least once that men decided exactly which of Gods words were divine enough to keep.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
See, thats the biggest problem as I see it.

If the Bible was ACTUALLY the word of God and not a conglomeration of stories that were merely inspired by God, this would all be a hell of a lot clearer.

Oh, and the picking and choosing was done in Nicea, for those keeping score. Sure, they may want a do over here in the last century or so, but its already happened at least once that men decided exactly which of Gods words were divine enough to keep.
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There's been picking and choosing through the various translations throughout the Bible's history as well. The one thing about translation is that plenty can get lost if there's an ideological spin to how the translators want to spin things. Also, archaeological discoveries can sometimes shed light on previous understandings of a religious text; like the Dead Sea Scrolls for example.
 
Logician Man said:
Doesn't get any creepier than outing oneself as preferring a pedophile over a political adversary. You still standing by that post ?
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That post was twisted and taken out of context and you know it. That post was in a thread regarding the Alabama election. It has nothing to do with this thread. Care to talk about this thread?
 
bullseyelqcs said:
That is a convienient dodge, given the number of New Testament Christians who still spew Old Testament law when they are out screaming that we should legally be discriminating against gays and such. If the OT is only supposed to be for the OT Jews, then why are there so many New Testament and Born Again Christians who use it as the go to for the justification of thier bigotry?
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If you cannot comprehend the Scriptures just accept that God is not OK with sodomy.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Your description of God is that he's a fallible being constrained to linear concepts of time and space. If God is not perfect and all-powerful, then by definition he is not worthy of worship.
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You should rely on what God says about Himself in His Word.
 
marke said:
If you cannot comprehend the Scriptures just accept that God is not OK with sodomy.
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This has nothing to do with my comprehension. It has to do with the claim that the OT is only for OT Jews. I'm perfectly fine with that assessment, but then it begs the question I asked that you didn't bother addressing. So I ask it again.....if the OT is only supposed to be for OT Jews, why do so many BAC's and Evangelicals today use it as thier go to justification for bigotry?
 
marke said:
You should rely on what God says about Himself in His Word.
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Except for the fact that it ISN'T His word, now is it? Be honest about it.....at best, its the word of God as interpreted and compiled by man. Then, its been taken apart and fought about what was "divine" enough to remain.
 
Moderate Right said:
That post was twisted and taken out of context and you know it. That post was in a thread regarding the Alabama election. It has nothing to do with this thread. Care to talk about this thread?
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/// and you know it /// No I don't know it. That's is a falsehood on your part. I saw the post YOU made being used as another DP member's signature ( copied and pasted verbatum ). It's still being used as that DP member's signature. Tell us how YOUR words ( unaltered ) in which you proclaim it is better to vote for a pedophile ( some of the most disgusting sexual predators of indefensible youth ) than a Democrat. They are YOUR words. What compelled you to post such trash, and how were YOUR words 'twisted' or 'taken out of context' when the words are clearly as you first posted them ? Are you still standing by 'your' words it is better to elect pedophiles to public office than Democrats/Liberals ?. You can try to run from your words, but you can't hide from your words....and those words are at, or near, the top of the most disgusting that I've ever seen put forth here at DP, or elsewhere.
 
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