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Chris Hayes Destroys Electoral College Arguments

btthegreat said:
When you quote a post of mine, my first assumption is that the reply might have something to do with the content quoted. My post was about people choosing their state and choosing its voting power simultaneously as part of a compromise between the good and the bad that destination offers, as any politically astute person might. Comment on that, or don't bother.
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I commented on what you posted. You made the odd suggestion of packing up and moving solely for the sake of affecting the the electoral college. You also expressed in a thinly veiled manner , your contempt for people in some regions of the nation. Or did you intend the term "redneck" as endearing? Have a nice evening.
 
Trump said:
Save your breath.....silly folks won’t let go of this bone until they get pummeled in 2020.

Mondaleish
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They will not let go even then. They will just go further off the deep end then they are now.
 
eohrnberger said:
Serfs don't elect anyone, much like how blue fringes of a nation would impose their choice of president on the rest of the nation without the electoral college.

Next up would be the elimination of the Senate, where each state has only 2 elected representatives.

But by all means, if you think that you can get the constitutional amendment approved to eliminate both or either.

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This meme is little more than yet another attempted power grab by the leftists.

Can't convince the electorate of adoption of leftist policies? Answer: Tyranny and suppress those that descent those policies. Typical leftist tyranny in action.
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Populations

Los Angeles: 4 million
Georgia: 10.52
Tennessee: 6.77
Arizona: 7.172 million
Minnesota: 5.611 million
South Carolina: 5.084 million
Missouri: 6.126 million
Kentucky: 4.468 million
Alabama: 4.888 million
Virginia: 8.518 million

Lie much?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
So, IOW, you cannot rationally rebut a single thing he said, you didn't understand a single thing he said and you're compelled to call him a 'jack wagon' because of that.
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Not at all.

His basic premise is that the if the Electoral College was NOT in the Constitution, it would be unConstitutional.

I was trying to think of a stupid comment to compare this to to demonstrate that it was very, very stupid. I couldn't think of anything that comes close to being more stupid than what he said.

Out of curiosity, do you know what a Constitutional Republic is? Do you know how it differs from a pure democracy?

Do you know that there is not even one office holder elected by the American people nationally? Did you know that this is enshrined in our Constitution by design?

The reason I referred to the presenter as a "jack wagon" is that a more accurate description is not allowed by the rules of this forum.
 
code1211 said:
Not at all.

His basic premise is that the if the Electoral College was NOT in the Constitution, it would be unConstitutional.

I was trying to think of a stupid comment to compare this to to demonstrate that it was very, very stupid. I couldn't think of anything that comes close to being more stupid than what he said.

Out of curiosity, do you know what a Constitutional Republic is? Do you know how it differs from a pure democracy?

Do you know that there is not even one office holder elected by the American people nationally? Did you know that this is enshrined in our Constitution by design?

The reason I referred to the presenter as a "jack wagon" is that a more accurate description is not allowed by the rules of this forum.
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Perhaps it's comparable to AOC preaching that we should abolish "daylight savings time" because it gives off an extra hour of heat that warms the planet.
 
poweRob said:
Populations

Los Angeles: 4 million
Georgia: 10.52
Tennessee: 6.77
Arizona: 7.172 million
Minnesota: 5.611 million
South Carolina: 5.084 million
Missouri: 6.126 million
Kentucky: 4.468 million
Alabama: 4.888 million
Virginia: 8.518 million

Lie much?
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some people simply arent honesty or interested in facts :shrug:
 
poweRob said:
Populations

Los Angeles: 4 million
Georgia: 10.52
Tennessee: 6.77
Arizona: 7.172 million
Minnesota: 5.611 million
South Carolina: 5.084 million
Missouri: 6.126 million
Kentucky: 4.468 million
Alabama: 4.888 million
Virginia: 8.518 million

Lie much?
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It could be just a difference of definition.

13,131,431
U.S.: 2nd

As of the 2010 U.S. Census, the Los Angeles metropolitan area had a population of nearly 13 million residents. Meanwhile, the larger metropolitan region's population at the 2010 census was estimated to be over 17.8 million residents, and a 2015 estimate reported a population of about18.7 million.

Greater Los Angeles - Wikipedia



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Jack Hays said:
It could be just a difference of definition.

13,131,431
U.S.: 2nd

As of the 2010 U.S. Census, the Los Angeles metropolitan area had a population of nearly 13 million residents. Meanwhile, the larger metropolitan region's population at the 2010 census was estimated to be over 17.8 million residents, and a 2015 estimate reported a population of about18.7 million.

Greater Los Angeles - Wikipedia



Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki › Greater_Los_Angeles
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thats not a difference of definition, the meme is still 100% factually wrong LOL
 
Captain Adverse said:
...They wanted to insure the States, which at that time were semi-independent entities under a loose Confederation, would retain as much independence as possible, while having as equal a say in the Federal government as possible...
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BS. Conservatives always try to explain away the EC as a giveaway to the states, the actual reason was the lack of an educated electorate.

"...Some founders wanted direct election; others mistrusted average voters' "capacity to judge of the respective pretensions of the candidates," as George Mason put it..."

This is from your government;

"..The founding fathers established it [EC] in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens [no public input]..."
 
ObamacareFail said:
Perhaps it's comparable to AOC preaching that we should abolish "daylight savings time" because it gives off an extra hour of heat that warms the planet.
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She's said some awfully stupid things. Did she really say this? The comforting thing about her is that she has all the answers.

I heard that she used to have someone on staff that reviewed and edited her Tweets. That person, and what little intelligence her Tweets used to contain, is now gone.

The silver lining is that the world will end in about 11.5 years due to Climate Change and we won't be subjected to her Tweets anymore.

On the other hand, her policies might be instituted and there will be no electricity anymore and we won't be subjected to her Tweets anymore.

Either way, her Tweets go away. The national IQ should rise by about 50 points. I feel smarter already!



 
code1211 said:
She's said some awfully stupid things. Did she really say this? The comforting thing about her is that she has all the answers.

I heard that she used to have someone on staff that reviewed and edited her Tweets. That person, and what little intelligence her Tweets used to contain, is now gone.

The silver lining is that the world will end in about 11.5 years due to Climate Change and we won't be subjected to her Tweets anymore.

On the other hand, her policies might be instituted and there will be no electricity anymore and we won't be subjected to her Tweets anymore.

Either way, her Tweets go away. The national IQ should rise by about 50 points. I feel smarter already!
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Yes...AOC actually said that about daylight savings time.
 
Geoist said:
This video sums up the ridiculousness of the EC and the pro-EC arguments.


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Why do the majority of Leftist Men look like they have the testosterone of Pee Wee Herman, the integrity of Boss Tweed, and the intelligence of AOC?
 
ObamacareFail said:
Yes...AOC actually said that about daylight savings time.
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It's a wonderful design feature for many that breathing does not require planning or logical thought or any consciousness at all.

The folks that buy into the crap shoveled out by our intelligentsia would simply suffocate from stupidity.

That would make the morning drive easier for the rest of us if "stupidly gullible" was a fatal condition.

It would also make the Liberal Dream come true. Half the world population dies. POOF! Most problems solved according to their guidelines!
 
Jetboogieman said:
You do know that you support a guy who said that he “talks to himself first and foremost” about foreign policy right?

A guy who said he knew “more than the generals” about ISIS?
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I'd need the links to understand the whole context of the statements. Our Presidents have a way of being a tad Narcissistic. If they weren't, they wouldn't want the job.

One of the many problems with the way we select Presidents is that nobody with a shred of normalcy would want to go through what is required to get the job.

However, with that said, are the results from Trump Policies regarding ISIS, or any other iteration of the Islamic Terrorist Organizations we have suffered, any more or less acceptable than those from his predecessors?

It seems to this observer like there have been terrorist attacks performed by Islamic Terror Groups on civilians for several decades. Are we consuming the same news?

I was involved in a stage production in the later 70's or early 80's and one of the performers was joking about Sheik Yamani and the Straights of Hormuz.

The Straight is still there. Yamani is still alive. The Iranians are still causing mischief. OPEC Still meets. The whole cycle just keeps cycling. Different actors. Same plot repeating.

Doesn't seem like the enlightened ones that sat, before Trump, at the Resolute Desk were any more effective than Trump in achieving the goal you seem to condemn Trump for not achieving.
 
SoCal said:
BS. Conservatives always try to explain away the EC as a giveaway to the states, the actual reason was the lack of an educated electorate.

"...Some founders wanted direct election; others mistrusted average voters' "capacity to judge of the respective pretensions of the candidates," as George Mason put it..."

This is from your government;

"..The founding fathers established it [EC] in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens [no public input]..."
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The only important part of your thoughts on this are highlighted above.
 
code1211 said:
She's said some awfully stupid things. Did she really say this?
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ObamacareFail said:
Yes...AOC actually said that about daylight savings time.
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No she did not.

Daylight Saving Time Spoof Story Not Real - FactCheck.org

A story satirizing Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal has been turned into a meme that is circulating without a satire disclaimer. She did not say she wants to repeal daylight saving time because of climate change.
 
Geoist said:
No she did not.

Daylight Saving Time Spoof Story Not Real - FactCheck.org

A story satirizing Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal has been turned into a meme that is circulating without a satire disclaimer. She did not say she wants to repeal daylight saving time because of climate change.
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Does not really matter, she feeds it with lunatic statements that are not the product of satirical web sites. For instance, her statement that "the world will end in 12 years if we do not address climate change".
 
ObamacareFail said:
Does not really matter, she feeds it with lunatic statements that are not the product of satirical web sites. For instance, her statement that "the world will end in 12 years if we do not address climate change".
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Ah, so IOW, you believe lies.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Does not really matter, she feeds it with lunatic statements that are not the product of satirical web sites. For instance, her statement that "the world will end in 12 years if we do not address climate change".
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LOL.

‘It doesn’t matter’.

This is true when one has a tenuous relationship with reality and truth.

Classic.
 
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