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This ought to frighten every American

Since they didn't alter the vote tallies, then there is not "interference". Other than uttering words.

If I had access to your social security number, but didn't use it yet, would you feel secure? Specifically if those responsible for correcting that issue refused to acknowledge it even happened?
 
I appreciate the honest answer. I support at minimum a condemnation of foreign interference in our elections. I don't believe the investigation was solely for political gain because it was bipartisan until people started feeling like it was taking too long. Russia clearly acted more boldly than they have ever before with the hacking and sheer amount of money they poured into 2016. Regardless of which way people end up voting I just want the most secure elections possible.

I would agree with you on most points you're making but consider this.

The DNC was hacked. On this I am sure we agree. The DNC said it was Russia. Was it? I have a few problems with this. I am not saying Russia didn't do it, but I have problems with the way it was handled.

The DNC reported to the FBI (Comey) a Russian (or Russians) hacking into their information. Comey asked to get access to these computers. The DNC refused the FBI access and decided to have a 3rd party investigate and report their findings. Comey agreed.

Now how in the hell is the FBI allowing a 3rd party access to DNC computers which are supposed to have been under Russian hacking into our election process? Why wouldn't they confiscate the systems in the name of national security and make their own assessment? This in itself is so far out of character for the FBI it smells. Horribly.

Then we get the report that it was done by a Russian keyboard with Russian IP addresses. Really? This is what brought us to Russians hacking into our DNC computers? Hackers don't leave those kinds of trails. If it was Russia (not saying it wasn't) but if it was, and these guys are brilliant enough to hack into the DNC systems, how could you explain leaving a fingerprint like this? Hackers don't do that.

IF it was hackers from Russia they would have come through from an outside IP using a keyboard from what ever country they wanted you to believe it was.

Why would the FBI and the DNC leave so much to chance? Just the fact that these computers would be put in the hands of a commercial 3rd party and not confiscated by the FBI puts this is a light that is so bad, you could never justify it through the course of national security. Why would you do this?
 
Are cyber attacks by a foreign nation, with the intent to sway an election, important? Are elections that are free from interference important?

Putin has Trump by something very important because our POTUS has never been a cheerleader for an enemy leader. This action by itself should be sufficient for impeachment. This is treason.

I think he's mentally deranged and incompetent to serve. He should be impeached under the 25th Amendment. His obvious derangement is clearly a disability. He's erratic, he doesn't remember from day to day which lie he told the previous day, he's absolutely un-American as any man can get and he's a danger to our national security and to the entire nation. He should be removed for being mentally unstable.

The amendment states that if, for whatever reason, the vice president and a majority of sitting Cabinet secretaries decide that the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” they can simply put that down in writing and send it to two people — the speaker of the House and the Senate’s president pro tempore.

Then the vice president would immediately become “acting president,” and take over all the president’s powers.

Let that sink in — one vice president and any eight Cabinet officers can, theoretically, decide to knock the president out of power at any time.

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Scaramucci: Officials should consider removing Trump through 25th Amendment


[snip]Former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci said Tuesday that President Trump's advisers could have a good case if they try to use what he called "full-blown insanity" as a reason to oust him from the Oval Office.

Radio host Bill Press had asked Scaramucci about whether he agreed with Trump critic George Conway's assessment that Cabinet officials should consider the 25th Amendment -- the constitutional provision outlining, in part, how to transfer power to the vice president.[/snip]
 
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I would agree with you on most points you're making but consider this.

The DNC was hacked. On this I am sure we agree. The DNC said it was Russia. Was it? I have a few problems with this. I am not saying Russia didn't do it, but I have problems with the way it was handled.

The DNC reported to the FBI (Comey) a Russian (or Russians) hacking into their information. Comey asked to get access to these computers. The DNC refused the FBI access and decided to have a 3rd party investigate and report their findings. Comey agreed.

Now how in the hell is the FBI allowing a 3rd party access to DNC computers which are supposed to have been under Russian hacking into our election process? Why wouldn't they confiscate the systems in the name of national security and make their own assessment? This in itself is so far out of character for the FBI it smells. Horribly.

Then we get the report that it was done by a Russian keyboard with Russian IP addresses. Really? This is what brought us to Russians hacking into our DNC computers? Hackers don't leave those kinds of trails. If it was Russia (not saying it wasn't) but if it was, and these guys are brilliant enough to hack into the DNC systems, how could you explain leaving a fingerprint like this? Hackers don't do that.

IF it was hackers from Russia they would have come through from an outside IP using a keyboard from what ever country they wanted you to believe it was.

Why would the FBI and the DNC leave so much to chance? Just the fact that these computers would be put in the hands of a commercial 3rd party and not confiscated by the FBI puts this is a light that is so bad, you could never justify it through the course of national security. Why would you do this?

The information I am using comes from the Mueller investigation. I don't watch any MSM and I don't trust the DNC. I think the investigation came to what seem like reasonable conclusions and would be shocked if the if the investigation was tampered with and didn't even find Trump directly guilty of anything. I agree that the Russia story, in terms of Trump's direct involvement, was overblown and annoying. I'd like to point out that it probably didn't take brilliant hackers to get into these systems. They recently tested various voting systems we use and found that teenagers could easily gain access. It all just goes to show you how little we care about elections being legitimate.
 
If I had access to your social security number, but didn't use it yet, would you feel secure? Specifically if those responsible for correcting that issue refused to acknowledge it even happened?
No. And no.

What does that have to do with altering the vote tallies?
 
I am sure we will. But when?

Trump is a skilled. He is loosely working within the construct of our nations governing structure to "rule" as a dictator.

Clearly his alliances are not in parallel with those of the country.

Wake the **** up all. Wake the **** up.

This is 1932 Germany. Wake the **** up.

LOL Really?
 
You don't have to project so much. You could've just said you were deep state guy and we could stop talking.
Oh...dont worry...I already knew who I was talking to when it comes to worrying about **** that your 'side' does........
 
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