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The Real Reason The Tea Party Went The Way Of The Brontosaurus

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The Tea Party died the day they decided to endorse candidates .

They made themselves vain by thinking they could be effective in our broken political process


So in other words, they have been dead for a long.... time

What say you?
 
Luther said:
The Tea Party died the day they decided to endorse candidates .

They made themselves vain by thinking they could be effective in our broken political process


So in other words, they have been dead for a long.... time

What say you?
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The Tea Party died the day after the 2010 mid terms.

It was never anything more than a K Street run public relations campaign designed to get the talk radio right, and the Palin voters back to the polls for 2010.

After the GOP won the mid terms, the K Street money dried up, and one by one, local tea party groups withered on the vine.

A few national tea party groups wandered around. But all of these were either fronts set up by DC lobbying firms (Tea Party Express), fronts for billionaires (Americans for Prosperity), or outright frauds (Tea Party Nation).

They survived for a few desultory years by fundraising off their target audience.

But as a coherent movement, the tea party never really existed.
 
there are still are number of people in the grass roots movement

it was never supposed to be a MAJOR thing

it was supposed to be a group that wanted to bring common sense back to DC

i know...fat chance right

but like all things, it morphed as certain people joined, and the ideas behind it also changed

but the original ideas havent died....

that is...The Tea Party movement is an American fiscally conservative political movement within the Republican Party. Members of the movement have called for lower taxes, and for a reduction of the national debt of the United States and federal budget deficit through decreased government spending.

i personally know a number of "tea partiers" and even though i consider my a conservative, i do like their "original" idea of a balanced budget, and a smaller government
 
TomFitz said:
The Tea Party died the day after the 2010 mid terms.

It was never anything more than a K Street run public relations campaign designed to get the talk radio right, and the Palin voters back to the polls for 2010.

After the GOP won the mid terms, the K Street money dried up, and one by one, local tea party groups withered on the vine.

A few national tea party groups wandered around. But all of these were either fronts set up by DC lobbying firms (Tea Party Express), fronts for billionaires (Americans for Prosperity), or outright frauds (Tea Party Nation).

They survived for a few desultory years by fundraising off their target audience.

But as a coherent movement, the tea party never really existed.
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It was never anything more than a K Street run public relations campaign designed to get the talk radio right, and the Palin voters back to the polls for 2010.
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You're a funny guy!

It took for ever for talk radio to really give the tea party the light of day(wink)

They needed to see which direction the wind was going to blow first
 
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The 'Tea party people' don't need the Tea Party anymore, the got Donald Trump.

Trump killed the TP. The TP took the GOP to the far right, Trump came along and took the GOP far, far, far right. Beyond any TP person's dream..
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
The 'Tea party people' don't need the Tea Party anymore, the got Donald Trump.

Trump killed the TP. The TP took the GOP to the far right, Trump came along and took the GOP far, far, far right. Beyond any TP person's dream..
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Yeah, real far right buddy(LOL)


Trump signs $1.3 trillion spending bill, despite earlier threat to veto | Fox News

Trump amnesty to cover 1.8 million Dreamers; triple Obama's DACA - Washington Times

Trump’s $1 Trillion Infrastructure Plan Is Back – Reason.com

Ivanka Trump joins dad to pitch child care policy - CNNPolitics
 
Luther said:
Yeah, real far right buddy(LOL)


Trump signs $1.3 trillion spending bill, despite earlier threat to veto | Fox News

Trump amnesty to cover 1.8 million Dreamers; triple Obama's DACA - Washington Times

Trump’s $1 Trillion Infrastructure Plan Is Back – Reason.com

Ivanka Trump joins dad to pitch child care policy - CNNPolitics
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Except for the increased spending everything else you posted is bull..And every Republican President spends like crazy anyway, Trump is no different.

There's no infrastructure plan. And the child care 'idea' was from 2016, it was BS campaign promise then, and now. Just another Trump lie.

Including the 'dreamers'.. From the 1st line of the article..... " Generous legalization is trade for wall, more deportations" A WALL AND MORE DEPORTATIONS!! The tea party's wet dream..

Trump cut taxes while the economy is going good... You can't be more tea party and right wing then that.. It's dumb, but that's the TP and the GOP for ya.

If you don't see that Trump has dragged the GOP even further right you're living in an alternative world. Or you're just naive as hell.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
Except for the increased spending everything else you posted is bull..And every Republican President spends like crazy anyway, Trump is no different.

There's no infrastructure plan. And the child care 'idea' was from 2016, it was BS campaign promise then, and now. Just another Trump lie.

Including the 'dreamers'.. From the 1st line of the article..... " Generous legalization is trade for wall, more deportations" A WALL AND MORE DEPORTATIONS!! The tea party's wet dream..

If you don't see that Trump has dragged the GOP even further right you're living in an alternative world. Or you're just naive as hell.
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Except for the increased spending everything else you posted is bull..And every Republican President spends like crazy anyway, Trump is no different.
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So, we should just poo poo Trump offering Amnesty when during his campaign he said NO AMNESTY?


Except for the increased spending everything else you posted is bull.
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Again, there ya go again without mentioning the democrats hand in that. Why?
 
Luther said:
So, we should just poo poo Trump offering Amnesty when during his campaign he said NO AMNESTY?




Again, there ya go again without mentioning the democrats hand in that. Why?
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????... You started this thread about the TP and now you're derailing by deflecting it to make it about the Dems? You asked about the TP, I answered it...

Have a nice day.
 
Their fate was cast the minute they got together and formed a loose organization with that motley crowd as its members. It could not turn out any other way. If you bake a cake with dirt - it does not taste very good.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
????... You started this thread about the TP and now you're derailing by deflecting it to make it about the Dems? You asked about the TP, I answered it...

Have a nice day.
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????... You started this thread about the TP and now you're derailing by deflecting it to make it about the Dems?
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Alright... I should just be a Robot(LOL)

I understand why you would avoid my simple question/points(wink)
 
A cluster of ideas that exist outside of the general mindset of our elected officials can gain quite a bit of popularity. That was certainly the case with the Tea Party. Sooner or later, though, it becomes clear that those ideas, in order to become effective, will have to infiltrate the body politic -- the legislators. That's when the ideas become diluted;rather like the waters of a river mixing, at last, with the sea.

Those who enter the legislature with a firm resolve to enact the outside concepts find themselves having to compromise in order to even gain an ear. Eventually, 'go along to get along' claims them. They rationalize. They have their corners rounded. they become, after a term or so, indistinguishable from their peers.

Such is life in a 'democracy'.

* The use of 'democracy' is to ward off those annoying nit-pickers who seem to consider it their sacred duty to tell me that the US is a republic.
 
Maybe... just maybe... and hear me out here...

The Tea Party was never about taxes or the budget.
 
Torus34 said:
A cluster of ideas that exist outside of the general mindset of our elected officials can gain quite a bit of popularity. That was certainly the case with the Tea Party. Sooner or later, though, it becomes clear that those ideas, in order to become effective, will have to infiltrate the body politic -- the legislators. That's when the ideas become diluted;rather like the waters of a river mixing, at last, with the sea.

Those who enter the legislature with a firm resolve to enact the outside concepts find themselves having to compromise in order to even gain an ear. Eventually, 'go along to get along' claims them. They rationalize. They have their corners rounded. they become, after a term or so, indistinguishable from their peers.

Such is life in a 'democracy'.

* The use of 'democracy' is to ward off those annoying nit-pickers who seem to consider it their sacred duty to tell me that the US is a republic.
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in order to become effective, will have to infiltrate the body politic -- the legislators.
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No we don't

Was there a tea party type of wave or this NEW legislator wave when Rosa Parks started the civil rights movement?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Trump came along and took the GOP far, far, far right. Beyond any TP person's dream..
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Oh? So the GOP suddenly wants to spend as little money as possible and have the smallest government as possible?

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Luther said:
The Tea Party died the day they decided to endorse candidates .

They made themselves vain by thinking they could be effective in our broken political process


So in other words, they have been dead for a long.... time

What say you?
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The Tea Party members of Congress were pushed out or absorbed by the GOP Elites from 2012 on. But in 2016, the rank and file who supported the Tea Party found a better person to support when Trump came on the scene...someone who can and will actually try to accomplish some of the things the original Tea Party wanted.

However, as we've seen, those GOP Elites are trying their best to push out or absorb Trump.
 
Jezcoe said:
Maybe... just maybe... and hear me out here...

The Tea Party was never about taxes or the budget.
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It was about that and a lot more(wink)
 
Luther said:
No we don't

Was there a tea party type of wave or this NEW legislator wave when Rosa Parks started the civil rights movement?
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Hi! Thank you so very much for the counterexample. The way of the Tea Party is not always the case, and you've nicely shown that to be true.

Regards.
 
Josie said:
Oh? So the GOP suddenly wants to spend as little money as possible and have the smallest government as possible?
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That will be their official dogmatic position as soon as a Democrat becomes President. Watch how fast budget deficits become their most important issue all of the sudden with the demise of Trump.
 
Mycroft said:
The Tea Party members of Congress were pushed out or absorbed by the GOP Elites from 2012 on. But in 2016, the rank and file who supported the Tea Party found a better person to support when Trump came on the scene...someone who can and will actually try to accomplish some of the things the original Tea Party wanted.

However, as we've seen, those GOP Elites are trying their best to push out or absorb Trump.
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The Tea Party members of Congress were pushed out or absorbed by the GOP Elites from 2012 on.
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That's why I said they DIED the day they decided to endorse candidates


the Tea Party found a better person to support when Trump came on the scene..
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I know, Trumps just incredible! Really speaks for the Tea party movement(NOT)


Trump signs $1.3 trillion spending bill, despite earlier threat to veto | Fox News
 
haymarket said:
That will be their official dogmatic position as soon as a Democrat becomes President. Watch how fast budget deficits become their most important issue all of the sudden with the demise of Trump.
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Of course. And Democrats are now clutching their pearls and invoking Jesus Christ and the Bible into government because it makes a "point" for them now. When they're in power, it will go back to normal. That's politics.
 
Mycroft said:
The Tea Party members of Congress were pushed out or absorbed by the GOP Elites from 2012 on. But in 2016, the rank and file who supported the Tea Party found a better person to support when Trump came on the scene...someone who can and will actually try to accomplish some of the things the original Tea Party wanted.

However, as we've seen, those GOP Elites are trying their best to push out or absorb Trump.
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Where are the Tea party rallies? Where are the people marching in the street like in 2009? The deficit has exploded while under complete GOP control.

Where is the realization that maybe... just maybe... that they backed the wrong horse?

Or.... maybe it wasn't about all of that.
 
Josie said:
Oh? So the GOP suddenly wants to spend as little money as possible and have the smallest government as possible?

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Neither did the TP.. There was a Dem prez, a prez they HATED.. The 'cut the deficits and debt' was nothing but a BS talking point. Many of the Con talking heads on the radio and TV were TP. Back then they screamed daily about the deficit. The deficit is going to hit $1 tril next year.. Have you heard anything from those Con talking heads lately? Nope.

The TP 'wants' were tougher on immigration, and tax cuts.. Trump gave them both, in spades.
 
TomFitz said:
The Tea Party died the day after the 2010 mid terms.

It was never anything more than a K Street run public relations campaign designed to get the talk radio right, and the Palin voters back to the polls for 2010.

After the GOP won the mid terms, the K Street money dried up, and one by one, local tea party groups withered on the vine.

A few national tea party groups wandered around. But all of these were either fronts set up by DC lobbying firms (Tea Party Express), fronts for billionaires (Americans for Prosperity), or outright frauds (Tea Party Nation).

They survived for a few desultory years by fundraising off their target audience.

But as a coherent movement, the tea party never really existed.
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Here's where the Tea Party overlapped with the plutocrats and got their support (Fox News sponsored Tea Party events, the Koch brothers paid for buses to attend them):

Tea Party: oppose government money for (largely) non-white homeowners, who had been sold homes aggressively they couldn't afford to create mortgages for Wall Street scams; oppose government debt (under the black president, we didn't hear from them under Bush)

Plutocrats: oppose government money for helping the 99.9%, instead of hanging it all to the top, while the crash transferred trillions to the top.

The naive Tea Party suckers thought they were about things like opposing irresponsible debt in general, about opposing corporate corruption as well as black people getting help not to get foreclosed. That's why some of them stood up to the Bush bank bailouts at first.

And you're right, it was another case of 'whip the suckers into a frenzy to get them to vote for the Republicans' - the voters didn't largely realize the corrupt agenda they were backing. They apparently thought the Koch brothers were just nice people offering buses.
 
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