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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

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    Odd since bernie has 3 houses.
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress View Post
    Business as usual. Do as I say and not as I do.
    There's nothing in liberal principles that says you cannot own three houses. Though personally I think it's a little excessive and no way did he get all that from just book deals. A little too much like Trump IMO.
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

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    According to TMZ the Obamas rented the house for the Summer and loved it so much decided to make an offer on it. It is a 29-acre beachfront plot with a 6,892-square-foot main house. The place has seven-bedrooms, 8˝-bathrooms. The property at 79 Turkeyland Cove Rd in Edgartown, Mass. is owned by Boston Celtics chief Wyc Grousbeck. It has a living room with vaulted ceilings and stone fireplaces, a chef’s kitchen and a formal dining room with giant windows and a lovely pool and outside entertainment area, a boat house and a private beach.

    This will be the 3rd or 4th multimillion dollar real estate purchase for the Obama's have made just prior to leaving the WH and the three short years since. They purchased the mansion just about 3 miles from the WH in the most expensive area in DC where old money lives. Then they purchased multi-million dollar home in Rancho Mirage, California, a community known for its world-class golf courses. And there have been reports the Obamas have also purchased a second multi-million dollar vacation home in Hawaii, which some speculate is the famous Robin Masters Estate from the 80's hit show Magnum P.I. and now this new purchase on Turkeyland Cove Mass. For 8 years they lived rent free on an income of 400,000 and today they can afford multimillion dollar homes all over. Amazing.
    That's what happens when you make book deals, and have 400,000 a year with no personal expenses.
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

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    Odd since bernie has 3 houses.
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    He was more into that Sinclair fellow.....

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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Logical1 View Post
    With the size of it, no doubt the gas and electric bill must be huge. Therefore a huge carbon footprint.

    But if you are a hypocrite like he is, it means nothing I guess.
    Could have solar? Might use a less polluting form of gas. Maybe it has innovations to reduce consumption. We shouldn't be making judgments so soon and anyway there's no rule that says Democrats should live in a medieval hovel and shiver through the winter for fear of generating a little smoke just because they have a care for the environment. Can we have a grownup discussion about this, or was that never the point of the thread?
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Logical1 View Post
    With little of his so called legacy left in tact, with his latest move he has lost even more credibility. Being a huge supporter of global warming and rising seas, he has bought a 15 million dollar mansion on the beach. It prove he is another leftist trying to promote leftwing BS, but he really doesnt believe it.

    Oh, and with all those millions he has, how about he does a little redistribution of all that wealth he preaches?

    I guess it is just more left wing hypocrisy in action as usual!!!
    I think the only hypocrisy happening here is from you. You indict someone else on an issue you know nothing about and likely do nothing for.

    First, what does having a house on the sea have to do with being a supporter of actions to eliminate global warming?

    Second, what does the value of his house have to do with his commitment to mitigating our issues with wealth distribution? Do you somehow believe wealthy people must give all their money away to the cause? A single wealthy person doing that does make the slightest dent in the issue, but does make a bid dent in his bank account. That would be a fool's errand. Barrack Obama ain't no fool. Its a rather absurd, illogical, expectation on your part, don't you think?

    To the contrary, Obama expended the vast majority of his political capital on passing the Affordable Care Act, which protected nearly 100 million Americans from financial ruin due to pre-existing conditions, and provided access to healthcare for more than 20 million. That was a difference maker.

    Meanwhile, the Obama's have historically given away 10% of their income. (see Obama tax returns. Note "Charitable Contributions per Schedule A.... https://s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs.taxnot...Obama_2015.pdf). He is very generous with his bounty.

    How about you? Do you give that much away to those in need? No, you are too busy being jealous of a man who earned a good life actually being able to enjoy a good life. No, you are too busy renouncing your political values in favor of your jealousy. How illogical? How hypocritical?
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    That's what happens when you make book deals, and have 400,000 a year with no personal expenses.
    Book deals and speaking engagements can sure add to their income but while they are living in the WH they still have to pay for the food that is personally prepared for their family. They also have to pay for their laundry and dry cleaning, their own toilet paper, toothpaste etc. their children's tuition, their insurances etc. While presidents do have a personal 100,000 travel voucher each year, when it comes to vacations they are required to pay for their accommodations, meals, fun tickets etc. If the first family takes a vacation together then all it takes is spending time in meetings on government business or meeting with other leaders of countries and then they can write off the cost of their vacation onto the taxpayers as government business.

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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrump View Post
    This post literally makes no sense.

    1. You were being sarcastic.
    2. You knew only liberals didn't the capacity to see it.
    3. I am sure you believe every word of it.

    Not all of these things can be true at the same time. Completely not possible
    You make my point so perfectly. Nothing else needed. THanks
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    Re: Obama loses even more credibility

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I think the only hypocrisy happening here is from you. You indict someone else on an issue you know nothing about and likely do nothing for.

    First, what does having a house on the sea have to do with being a supporter of actions to eliminate global warming?

    Second, what does the value of his house have to do with his commitment to mitigating our issues with wealth distribution? Do you somehow believe wealthy people must give all their money away to the cause? A single wealthy person doing that does make the slightest dent in the issue, but does make a bid dent in his bank account. That would be a fool's errand. Barrack Obama ain't no fool. Its a rather absurd, illogical, expectation on your part, don't you think?

    To the contrary, Obama expended the vast majority of his political capital on passing the Affordable Care Act, which protected nearly 100 million Americans from financial ruin due to pre-existing conditions, and provided access to healthcare for more than 20 million. That was a difference maker.

    Meanwhile, the Obama's have historically given away 10% of their income. (see Obama tax returns. Note "Charitable Contributions per Schedule A.... https://s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs.taxnot...Obama_2015.pdf). He is very generous with his bounty.

    How about you? Do you give that much away to those in need? No, you are too busy being jealous of a man who earned a good life actually being able to enjoy a good life. No, you are too busy renouncing your political values in favor of your jealousy. How illogical? How hypocritical?
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    Trump does the things that Trump supporters hate and claim not to support, but they don't realize Trump and his people are the ones doing them.

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