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Keep Marysville as white as possible (Jean Cramer)

Hari Seldon

Hari Seldon

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Hari Seldon said:
You can't make this stuff up. There is even a recording. Not a fan of inter-racial marriage either. (But she is not against blacks) LOL! I think its still 1959 and not 2019 in Marysville.

Marysville council candidate Jean Cramer stuns with racist comment

Michigan city council candidate Jean Cramer wants to keep community as white "as possible" - CBS News
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To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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:lol: what are you even referring to?
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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Its politically incorrect but its not racist. I have no issue with communities who voluntarily segregate themselves based on race, sex, money, education, or anything else. Let them have their social experiment and lets see the results.

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AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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Curious: is this hypothetical devil a severely concussed goldfish?




In other words: Keep town X race necessarily entails a conclusion that unidentified things inherent to other races are negative relative to the race of the town. That implicates your second sentence.
 
Mr Person said:
Curious: is this hypothetical devil a severely concussed goldfish?




In other words: Keep town X race necessarily entails a conclusion that unidentified things inherent to other races are negative relative to the race of the town. That implicates your second sentence.
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This isn't about Trump.
 
Mr Person said:
Curious: is this hypothetical devil a severely concussed goldfish?




In other words: Keep town X race necessarily entails a conclusion that unidentified things inherent to other races are negative relative to the race of the town. That implicates your second sentence.
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Do preserving a culture, for example, indicate that other cultures are negative relatively?
 
trouble13 said:
Its politically incorrect but its not racist. I have no issue with communities who voluntarily segregate themselves based on race, sex, money, education, or anything else. Let them have their social experiment and lets see the results.

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You can't be serious.
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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Keeping black people poof town out is obviously racist. Opposing the Loving v. Virginia SCOTUS decision on interracial marriage is also a new low.
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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Here is the definition of racism.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles

b : a political or social system founded on racism

3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
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Racism | Definition of Racism by Merriam-Webster

Some people ignore that the meaning of racism goes beyond mere racial superiority. Race-based discrimination is also racism by definition.

That's why I distinguish between White Supremacists and racists.
 
trouble13 said:
Its politically incorrect but its not racist. I have no issue with communities who voluntarily segregate themselves based on race, sex, money, education, or anything else. Let them have their social experiment and lets see the results.

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Keeping black people is not voluntary for black people who are not welcome to be residents of that city.

You do not that it is 2019 and not 1919, don't you?
 
AProudLefty said:
Do preserving a culture, for example, indicate that other cultures are negative relatively?
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Think it out and you may come up with the truth.

Ones words echo who they are inside
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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Mr Person said:
Curious: is this hypothetical devil a severely concussed goldfish?

In other words: Keep town X race necessarily entails a conclusion that unidentified things inherent to other races are negative relative to the race of the town. That implicates your second sentence.
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AProudLefty said:
This isn't about Trump.
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AProudLefty said:
Do preserving a culture, for example, indicate that other cultures are negative relatively?
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I would say "preserving a culture" is a euphemism. Nothing anyone else has celebrated has impinged on whatever I consider my "culture." I would say "preserving a culture" is soft-speak for keep the others out.

AProudLefty said:
She never said to keep black people out.
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Unless we speak of uncontacted tribes, when has it meant anything different than keep the other out? Brown, black, the idea under it is we do not want them.
 
Lisa said:
Keeping black people poof town out is obviously racist. Opposing the Loving v. Virginia SCOTUS decision on interracial marriage is also a new low.
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She never said to keep black people out.
 
AProudLefty said:
Let's say that a black woman says she wants to keep her community as black as possible, is she racist?
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Yes, since it implies that adding other races to the community would be detrimental and should be discouraged. It is assigning a higher value to people of one race and thus a lower value to (all) others.
 
AProudLefty said:
To play devil's advocate, how is saying you want to keep your community white racist? Remember the definition of racist.
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AProudLefty said:
Let's say that a black woman says she wants to keep her community as black as possible, is she racist?
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A leftist capable of seeing other points of view. A truly rare site these days, keep it up.
 
Lisa said:
Keeping black people is not voluntary for black people who are not welcome to be residents of that city.

You do not that it is 2019 and not 1919, don't you?
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Explain to me the harm in allowing only women in a rape support group, an all black college dorm, an all men smoking club, an all white social club.

Should peta be forced to accept big game hunters into their group or is it ok for them to be discriminated against.

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trouble13 said:
I am serious.
Let me ask you a serious question.
What is the harm in tolerating this?

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The violation of the equal rights of black people to live there. Are there "whites only" cities where you live?
 
Lisa said:
The violation of the equal rights of black people to live there. Are there "whites only" cities where you live?
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You sidestepped the question. What if an all black city was made. Explain to me how its harmful

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This thread went south rather quickly
 
Lisa said:
The violation of the equal rights of black people to live there. Are there "whites only" cities where you live?
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She didn't say they can't be there. Besides she was talking about the interracial couples and their children. Ironically she was using the Bible to "prove" her point.
 
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