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It's Not Right VS Left Anymore

The American liberal Democratic Party is all but completely gone. For the most part, it has been changed by the corporate super-rich to being the International Corporate-Fascism Party - the vehemently opposes and is the diametric opposite of traditional Democratic liberalism

Big words with no connective tissue to support any actual thought process.
See also regurgitation of some full on funky bull****.
 
I am a never Trump republican who has never voted blue and feels my party let me down by settling for the Don. Here in my state of Utah the Trump train has left the station and for the first time in my memory the state has a real risk of turning blue in 2020 as Trump's popularity is waning. It used to be that character mattered, not so much anymore as we watch this dumpster fire play out. The few positive impacts he has made are and will constantly be overshadowed by his ignorance and deplorable behavior. He is actively dismantling relationships with allies that were built to help protect our country and the world and I'm hopeful the damage won't be something that can't be repaired once he's out of office. I hope the party presents a qualified candidate for a primary so I can feel part of the process again and not feel like a bystander to rhetoric over substance crowd which simply can't be reasoned with.

I worry about this too.
I don't think the next POTUS needs to do an apology tour or anything like that. I am actually hoping that our allies recognize a fault-line in the process and don't just chalk it up to all US citizens being of this Trump hive-mind.
I hope they are cautious, but optimistic that should we right the ship, we can make amends and move forward.
Time will tell.
 
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.

Piers Morgan which most would agree is a liberal and he has your number.


 
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Nice propaganda piece that spits at reality there ^

The people Being attacked ed are MAGA hat wearers. They are not attacking people.

The people,doing the hating and acting unhinged are the progressives.

Why do trump people support the unhinged chosen one that we saw at yesterday’s presser? Enough with the lame responses dismissing trump’s insanity as trolling.

Do you have any idea what trump’s policies have done to farm country? I do. These are my in-laws, friends, and former students.

Why would any Veteran or any member of a Veteran’s family vote for this coward who wants to award himself the Medal of Honor? I know what my Air Force Father would say if he were still alive.
 
If anyone dares to disagree with "from each according to their ability (to pay more taxes), to each according to their need (for more free goods/services)" then they must be labeled as uncivil, insecure, immoral, racist, white nationalist and fascist. ;)

The hypocrisy of the OP is noted.

BTW, Joe Biden has declared that "We choose truth over facts!".

Well, to be fair, Joe Biden is not the face of the Democratic party (yet). And I suspect he never will be.
 
Well, to be fair, Joe Biden is not the face of the Democratic party (yet). And I suspect he never will be.

To be fair, what 'the face of one party' says wrong is not reason for supporting the 'the face of the other party'. The oversimplified nonsense (OP premise?) that those supporting the party for a bigger federal government are much worse people than those supporting the party for a huge federal government (or vice versa) is ridiculous.

It is largely a ruse (deflection?) to avoid having a discussion of any particular public policy issue which should include constructive criticism, often in the form of proposed policy changes.
 
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It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.

Yep, conservatives have gone off the rails by supporting the clown in the White House and denying climate change. It was Nixon who started the EPA. When did Republicans stop caring about the environment and stop listening to scientists?
 
Yep, conservatives have gone off the rails by supporting the clown in the White House and denying climate change. It was Nixon who started the EPA. When did Republicans stop caring about the environment and stop listening to scientists?

When they stopped caring and no longer wanted to listen.
 
When we call you liberals, we mean people who are blinded by false idealism that isn't workable in the real world, who actually believe the propagandists of the MSM, and who's candidates, if elected, would fundamentally change this country into a second rate world power.

No thanks.

News for you. Every right and freedom you enjoy and are proud of was won for you by liberals. Every one. And they had to fight conservatives to win those rights, all down the line. And it's still going on. The latest ones were gay marriage and drug laws- liberals won long battles in those areas and the next fight, I predict, will be assisted suicide. Liberals will win that one too but it's gonna be another long fight.
And when conservatives get power they start trying to roll back those rights. Look what's happening here and there about women's right to safe abortion. Liberals won that right and conservatives are trying to take it away.
There's false idealism at work all right, and it's conservatives who are deluded by it.
 
It’s more like the left or no one else, WE NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY WE ARE A REPUBLIC PERIOD END OF THE CONVERSATION

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Sanity vs Insanity

AND

Plutocrats vs Other people (money in/out politics)

I wonder why people accept what Moscow Mitch is doing? If people let things be as they are now (not secure next election) and also allow gerrymandering along other silly stuff (like how voting can be harder thing to do for some people). US can't get much respect as long as they can't ensure fair elections and sane policies. But anyway, it's really fun to watch what is happening now, Trump is endless source of silly things and base like to lick Trump's backside all day long - can't get much more fun xD

We should save the screen shots. If Trump loses, they'll be good to post when former trumpers say "I never liked him".
 
Why do trump people support the unhinged chosen one that we saw at yesterday’s presser? Enough with the lame responses dismissing trump’s insanity as trolling.

Do you have any idea what trump’s policies have done to farm country? I do. These are my in-laws, friends, and former students.

Why would any Veteran or any member of a Veteran’s family vote for this coward who wants to award himself the Medal of Honor? I know what my Air Force Father would say if he were still alive.

Thank you for forgiving Veterans Student Loans?
 
I worry about this too.
I don't think the next POTUS needs to do an apology tour or anything like that. I am actually hoping that our allies recognize a fault-line in the process and don't just chalk it up to all US citizens being of this Trump hive-mind.
I hope they are cautious, but optimistic that should we right the ship, we can make amends and move forward.
Time will tell.

It will take time. I hope the ship can be righted, but trust has been broken and will need to be rebuilt.
 
Yep, conservatives have gone off the rails by supporting the clown in the White House and denying climate change. It was Nixon who started the EPA. When did Republicans stop caring about the environment and stop listening to scientists?
When they decided to court Evangelicals.
 
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.


We’re all guilty to some degree or another.
 
It’s more like the left or no one else, WE NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY WE ARE A REPUBLIC PERIOD END OF THE CONVERSATION

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I hate to break it to you, but a republic is a form of democracy. A republic is also called a representative democracy.
 
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.

I think it's less liking Trump than it is liking that he gives them license to be deplorable.
 
It's Civility VS Incivility
It's Morals VS Immorality
It's Propaganda VS Facts
It's Fascism VS Democracy

When they call us "liberals" what they really mean to say is that we are civilized people who care about the world and don't think everything is a freaking joke. They want to cause chaos, hate, and division.
When they want to attack people for holding different beliefs or looking different than them, it shows their insecurity and immorality.
When they say Fake News, and only listen to Trump or Trump lackeys, that's really propaganda.
When they say America isn't a Democracy, it's a republic, they want it to be run by a tin-foil hat dictator named Trump.
There is a lot of truth here. Unfortunately, OP ignores the symmetry.

No group has ever been as uncivil as the media is toward Trump. Democrats do not show any respect for the office of President.

Democrats turned the powers of law enforcement against a Presidential candidate. They seek to ignore the written laws on immigration. This one is one sided.

The MSM has become a propaganda wing of the Democrats, though which is dog and which is tail can be unclear.

The last one is dead on and Democrats are the fascists. They are the one subverting law enforcement and national security to make political police. They are the ones destroying art and and suppressing free speech. They are the ones seeking to evade rather than enforce the law and the Constitution.
 
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