Trump on Gun Control and American Jews

Old 'N Chill · Aug 21, 2019

More insight on Trump's latest "thoughts" on gun control and American Jews. Video shows in link.

President Trump spoke extensively with reporters outside the White House Wednesday, answering questions on gun policy, Russia, the economy and even birthright citizenship.

Yamiche Alcindor, who was there in person, joins William Brangham to discuss key takeaways, including Trump’s alignment with the NRA on gun background checks and his criticism of American Jews who support Democrats.

What Trump is saying about gun control and American Jews | PBS NewsHour

jamesrage · Aug 22, 2019

Old 'N Chill said:
More insight on Trump's latest "thoughts" on gun control and American Jews. Video shows in link.

What Trump is saying about gun control and American Jews | PBS NewsHour

I would say that despite being a liberal from New York he was probably reminded that a good chunk of the republican base are avid 2nd amendment supporters and wouldn't stand for any left wing anti-2nd amendment trash gun control proposals.

As for criticizing jews who vote democrat. How is this any different than when leftists criticize blacks who vote republican. Heck its usually worse when leftists criticize blacks because they call them uncle toms and other racial slurs. I remember some months back liberals got a kick out of calling Dr. Carson an Oreo just because there was a picture of him with some Oreos or some other irrelevant stuff they thought gave them a legitimate excuse to call a black man a Oreo.

RabidAlpaca · Aug 22, 2019

jamesrage said:
I would say that despite being a liberal from New York he was probably reminded that a good chunk of the republican base are avid 2nd amendment supporters and wouldn't stand for any left wing anti-2nd amendment trash gun control proposals.

As for criticizing jews who vote democrat. How is this any different than when leftists criticize blacks who vote republican. Heck its usually worse when leftists criticize blacks because they call them uncle toms and other racial slurs. I remember some months back liberals got a kick out of calling Dr. Carson an Oreo just because there was a picture of him with some Oreos or some other irrelevant stuff they thought gave them a legitimate excuse to call a black man a Oreo.

The difference is that the liberals you're talking about are random people you encounter on internet forums, and this is the President of the United States. You may not have higher standards for the President than that for Internet forums, but most Americans do.

Stop your excuses and just admit Trump shouldn't have said it as it was obviously extremely condescending against Jews. Your idiotic false equivalency is not equivalent. If you want more non-white voters tell the GOP to stop pandering only to white people while insulting everyone else as being "On the Democratic plantation" and other ****ty comments.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

I have always wondered why the jews are so left wing as well considering that democrats are hostile towards israel.

snakestretcher · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
I have always wondered why the jews are so left wing as well considering that democrats are hostile towards israel.

You do understand the difference between a country and its government, and the faith of its population? There are many, many Jews hostile to the actions and policies of a far-right state, as well they should be given their history.

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Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

jamesrage said:
I would say that despite being a liberal from New York he was probably reminded that a good chunk of the republican base are avid 2nd amendment supporters and wouldn't stand for any left wing anti-2nd amendment trash gun control proposals.

As for criticizing jews who vote democrat. How is this any different than when leftists criticize blacks who vote republican. Heck its usually worse when leftists criticize blacks because they call them uncle toms and other racial slurs. I remember some months back liberals got a kick out of calling Dr. Carson an Oreo just because there was a picture of him with some Oreos or some other irrelevant stuff they thought gave them a legitimate excuse to call a black man a Oreo.

Except a good chunk of the public wants change, including the republicans.

The party of extinction is the party of blame the other and allow mass school shootings.

I hope you enjoy supporting a party that continues to allow US children to be massacred nearly daily.

Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
I have always wondered why the jews are so left wing as well considering that democrats are hostile towards israel.

Incorrect. When it comes to "democrats" like Pelosi and Schumer, you're outright wrong. When it comes to folks like me, sorry, I do not support states that put children in cages, bomb civilians, illegally occupy ancestral lands, etc.

The republicants are filled with a death cult, nihilistic obsession with Israel thanks to the primary threat to american democracy, the evangelical right. They think that allowing Israel to maintain power there fulfills the christian destiny and will bring about the apocalypse.

Sorry, I do not negotiate with hostile entities.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

Obscurity said:
Incorrect. When it comes to "democrats" like Pelosi and Schumer, you're outright wrong. When it comes to folks like me, sorry, I do not support states that put children in cages, bomb civilians, illegally occupy ancestral lands, etc.

The republicants are filled with a death cult, nihilistic obsession with Israel thanks to the primary threat to american democracy, the evangelical right. They think that allowing Israel to maintain power there fulfills the christian destiny and will bring about the apocalypse.

Sorry, I do not negotiate with hostile entities.

Protecting the people who killed Jesus fulfills Christian destiny? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
Protecting the people who killed Jesus fulfills Christian destiny? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Yes, it does. It fulfills the destiny of the end time mythology. If you claim to be a christian and think I am lying, I will challenge that you are in fact not a christian. If you aren't a christian, you are not educated on the mythology and dogma of christianity, and thus should not make such uninformed commentary.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

snakestretcher said:
You do understand the difference between a country and its government, and the faith of its population? There are many, many Jews hostile to the actions and policies of a far-right state, as well they should be given their history.

Jews should fear more government, not less. Fearing the modern right wing makes no sense for anyone, especially the jews.

snakestretcher · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
Jews should fear more government, not less. Fearing the modern right wing makes no sense for anyone, especially the jews.

Right; so Jews should embrace the fervent, heartfelt and anti-Semitic chants of "Jews will not replace us" from the likes of right-wing bottom-feeders, 'Unite the Right'. Your logic continues to astound me. Not in a good way, however.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

snakestretcher said:
Right; so Jews should embrace the fervent, heartfelt chants of "Jews will not replace us" from the likes of right-wing bottom-feeders, 'Unite the Right'. Your logic continues to astound me. Not in a good way, however.

Those people have no power and only have a voice due to the left wing media giving them so much attention. 99.9999999% of the right wing wants nothing to do with that bull****, we just want lower taxes, less government, and more freedom.

Does ANTIFA speak for the left wing? Obviously not, but they get a lot of attention by the right wing media. Dont be so freaking manipulated by the stupid ass self serving dorks in the media.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

Obscurity said:
Yes, it does. It fulfills the destiny of the end time mythology. If you claim to be a christian and think I am lying, I will challenge that you are in fact not a christian. If you aren't a christian, you are not educated on the mythology and dogma of christianity, and thus should not make such uninformed commentary.

Ok so your statement is the Jews dont want Israel protected because Christians are using the United States to protect Jews from Muslims (who respect Jesus, unlike Jews like Ben Shapiro who think Jesus was a trouble maker) to fulfill Christian destiny.

Holy **** that is super funny.

In the same thread we have a left winger saying the right hates Jews and another left winger saying the right wants to protect Jews. This is way, way, WAY too funny.

Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
Ok so your statement is the Jews dont want Israel protected because Christians are using the United States to protect Jews from Muslims (who respect Jesus, unlike Jews like Ben Shapiro who think Jesus was a trouble maker) to fulfill Christian destiny.

Holy **** that is super funny.

In the same thread we have a left winger saying the right hates Jews and another left winger saying the right wants to protect Jews. This is way, way, WAY too funny.

Have you ever read the bible? Ever?

The evangelical right is the primary donor to Israel. The US Government, driven by evangelistic christianity sends billions in aid. The evangelical right in America wants Israel to have occupancy of specific pieces of land there to fulfill the end times prophecy. Absolutely.

Now, some right wingers despise Jews. Some leftwingers do as well. But what I am pointing out above is fact.

Why American Evangelicals are a huge base of support for Israel

The Jesus Industry has to support Israel. From the article: “Supporting Israel is not a political issue ... it is a bible issue,” pastor John Hagee, the founder and national chairman of Christians United for Israel, said in a speech last year.

So yes. It's grounded in biblical mythology. Sorry, you lose.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

Obscurity said:
Have you ever read the bible? Ever?

The evangelical right is the primary donor to Israel. The US Government, driven by evangelistic christianity sends billions in aid. The evangelical right in America wants Israel to have occupancy of specific pieces of land there to fulfill the end times prophecy. Absolutely.

Now, some right wingers despise Jews. Some leftwingers do as well. But what I am pointing out above is fact.

Why American Evangelicals are a huge base of support for Israel

The Jesus Industry has to support Israel. From the article: “Supporting Israel is not a political issue ... it is a bible issue,” pastor John Hagee, the founder and national chairman of Christians United for Israel, said in a speech last year.

So yes. It's grounded in biblical mythology. Sorry, you lose.

This is insanely hilarious. "The right wing hates Jews but they dont want Jews to be killed by Muslims to fulfill Christian destiny but Christians hate Muslims too so they want Muslims to be killed by Jews but they dont want Muslims killed by Jews too because, like, destiny and stuff".

Translation: Buncha bull****. The left wing just says anything and everything as long as it makes the right look bad in that moment. According to the left, the right wing simultaneously hates Jews and wants to protect Jews...ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha too freakin funny.

Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
This is insanely hilarious. "The right wing hates Jews but they dont want Jews to be killed by Muslims to fulfill Christian destiny but Christians hate Muslims too so they want Muslims to be killed by Jews but they dont want Muslims killed by Jews too because, like, destiny and stuff".

Translation: Buncha bull****. The left wing just says anything and everything as long as it makes the right look bad in that moment. According to the left, the right wing simultaneously hates Jews and wants to protect Jews...ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha too freakin funny.

Typical of the right. Laugh in the face of evidence. Sorry, you lose.

Lmao. The only ones laughing here are laughing at you.

You just got wrecked son. Know your place.

bongsaway · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
Those people have no power and only have a voice due to the left wing media giving them so much attention. 99.9999999% of the right wing wants nothing to do with that bull****, we just want lower taxes, less government, and more freedom.

Does ANTIFA speak for the left wing? Obviously not, but they get a lot of attention by the right wing media. Dont be so freaking manipulated by the stupid ass self serving dorks in the media.

So you like so many others on the right have bought into the reagan mantra of government and taxes bad. As far as less government, let's be clear, less government in my business but more government in my bedroom and body.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

bongsaway said:
So you like so many others on the right have bought into the reagan mantra of government and taxes bad. As far as less government, let's be clear, less government in my business but more government in my bedroom and body.

How about just less government, period?

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

Obscurity said:
Typical of the right. Laugh in the face of evidence. Sorry, you lose.

Lmao. The only ones laughing here are laughing at you.

You just got wrecked son. Know your place.

dAmN sOn YoU jUsT gOt PwNd!!!!!

Stop trolling dude. You are trying to make opposing statements true at the same time.

bongsaway · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
How about just less government, period?

What do you mean by less government in a country of over three hundred million people?

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

bongsaway said:
What do you mean by less government in a country of over three hundred million people?

Less government (and Im talking mainly federal) involvement, less control, fewer laws, fewer regulations, less taxes, less spending, less involvements with things like; education, medicine, income redistribution (welfare/entitlements), less manipulation of currency (END THE FED), and no social engineering.

The federal government was set up to protect the Constitution, not run our lives. This was supposed to be a free country, do you feel free??? Or do you feel like the government controls you?

bongsaway · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
Less government (and Im talking mainly federal) involvement, less control, fewer laws, fewer regulations, less taxes, less spending, less involvements with things like; education, medicine, income redistribution (welfare/entitlements), less manipulation of currency (END THE FED), and no social engineering.

The federal government was set up to protect the Constitution, not run our lives. This was supposed to be a free country, do you feel free??? Or do you feel like the government controls you?

It strikes me as kind of strange that most folks who want less federal government live in states that get more money from the government than the state pays in. I feel very free living in america. If you don't you can always move to russia. Our president likes it a lot.

Obscurity · Aug 22, 2019

Sheepdog said:
dAmN sOn YoU jUsT gOt PwNd!!!!!

Stop trolling dude. You are trying to make opposing statements true at the same time.

I offered you commentary right from the horse's mouth and you cling to logical fallacies.

Just go elsewhere. A lion does not play with its food.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

Obscurity said:
I offered you commentary right from the horse's mouth and you cling to logical fallacies.

Just go elsewhere. A lion does not play with its food.

No you did not. You decided the motivation of a group you are hostile towards. Nothing more.

a LiOn DoEs NoT pLaY wItH iTs FoOd :lamo...total cringe.

Sheepdog · Aug 22, 2019

bongsaway said:
It strikes me as kind of strange that most folks who want less federal government live in states that get more money from the government than the state pays in. I feel very free living in america. If you don't you can always move to russia. Our president likes it a lot.

Why would I move to a place with more government power and intervention in everyday life??? I JUST told you I wanted less government.

You are a progressive. Why dont YOU move to Russia? Or anywhere else in Europe? You guys are the ones who want more government. I mean hell, you even want the government to have complete control over health care! I just want to be left alone to control my own life...but Im saying this as a guy who pays tens of thousands in taxes every year (robbery) so I have nothing to gain and just more to lose with more government.

I highly doubt you carry my tax burden.

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