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Christian Evangelicals and Trump

LowDown

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As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.

Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.

Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”

So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.

Evangelicals’ Trump Shield | The American Conservative

So, it's just as it was in 2016 -- it's not that Trump is good, but the other side is so much worse.
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.

Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.

Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”

So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.

Evangelicals’ Trump Shield | The American Conservative

So, it's just as it was in 2016 -- it's not that Trump is good, but the other side is so much worse.
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Oh those poor, poor evangelicals and their persecution complex. :lamo
 
Phys251 said:
Oh those poor, poor evangelicals and their persecution complex. :lamo
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You pretty much prove my point about hostility of the left to Christianity.

Haters gotta hate, I guess.
 
LowDown said:
You pretty much prove my point about hostility of the left to Christianity.

Haters gotta hate, I guess.
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:lamo

Coming out as a Christian in America takes as much courage as coming out as white at a KKK rally. :lol:
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.

Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.

Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”

So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.

Evangelicals’ Trump Shield | The American Conservative

So, it's just as it was in 2016 -- it's not that Trump is good, but the other side is so much worse.
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According to bible mythology that is how the devil works. The devil does some sickening things but I will ignore that if I can benefit from him.

The devil smiles widely.
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.

Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.

Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”

So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.

Evangelicals’ Trump Shield | The American Conservative

So, it's just as it was in 2016 -- it's not that Trump is good, but the other side is so much worse.
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Another crock of **** thread. :2no4:

LowDown said:
You pretty much prove my point about hostility of the left to Christianity.

Haters gotta hate, I guess.
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You should know.
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.
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Wow! This just goes to show how incredibly cowardly, entitled and insecure Christians are. We live in a Representative Democracy where the majority votes for the leaders who make the laws. Roughly 80% of the country is Christian. There is a zero % chance that any political party would ever or could ever make Christianity illegal. Any person who believes that's even in the realm of possibility is an incredibly dumb mother ****er.

Freedom of religion doesn't give Evangelicals the Freedom to impose their religion on everyone else, it prevents them the freedom worship whatever got they want, but like every other freedom or right their freedom ends when it starts to impact the freedom of others.
 
Phys251 said:
:lamo

Coming out as a Christian in America takes as much courage as coming out as white at a KKK rally. :lol:
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Typical non sequitur response.

The issue is self-preservation per the OP.

In this political party duopoly of Democrat vs. Republican there is currently no viable 3rd option.

As a result, people tend to vote for the lesser of two evils, or per the OP's citation, the candidate who poses the least threat to their belief systems.

So while Trump may seem an odd candidate for evangelicals to support in the eyes of the Left, again as the OP points out, that is because the Left has an extremely narrow point of view.

Politics often makes strange bedfellows. :shrug:
 
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LowDown said:
You pretty much prove my point about hostility of the left to Christianity.

Haters gotta hate, I guess.
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No need to hate, at least from my perspective.

Laughing is more likely. Superstition and intolerance is much of what organized religion are all about.

But it is a serious problem if one understands the issues shown in the C Street Family and its 60+ year running "Prayer Breakfast", as covered in the excellent documentary The Family, on Netflix.
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.

Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.

Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”

So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.

Evangelicals’ Trump Shield | The American Conservative

So, it's just as it was in 2016 -- it's not that Trump is good, but the other side is so much worse.
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Sigh... no one is going to "to make their faith illegal." The only thing that is really happening is trying to divorce theocratic leanings from our government.
 
More and more Christians are open to having gays in their congregation and gay marriage, but there are still some holdouts.

Within Christianity it's basically an argument between if God made them gay, which I think he did, and those that believe gayness is a learned behavior like drinking or gambling. Please note that a Christian church won't through you out because of drinking or gambling, and I've never heard of one throwing a person out because they're gay.

Personally, if you say Jesus doesn't love the gays, you don't understand your religion.

Yes, I think Christians in America feel under attack. There's no violence because everyone knows that Jesus doesn't like violence, unlike Mohammad.
 
LowDown said:
As the Babylon Bee put it: Christians are just voting for the political party that's least likely to make their faith illegal.
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Nobody is going to make Christianity illegal in the USA (Islam on the other hand… I assume you wouldn’t care about that though?).

LowDown said:
Many progressives are blind to their own side’s hostility to social and religious conservatives, and that blindness prevents them from understanding why people who think Trump is a bad man would vote for him anyway, solely out of self-protection.
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All politics hostility at the extremes (even yours) but there are indeed general objections to attempts to impose “conservative” principles on people on the basis of social and religious tradition in exactly the same way that there are objections to the imposition of “liberal” principles. I think rational balanced compromises can be found but not enough people (or at least not enough or the vocal people) are willing to consider them.

LowDown said:
Or, in the words of one evangelical, “Donald Trump is going to embarrass me every day of the year, but unlike the other side, he doesn’t hate my faith, and seek to do me harm.”
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One day Americans will realise that they don’t have to blindly support one of two political parties (and unconditionally hate the other) and will establish an actual working political system. This is not that day. :(

LowDown said:
So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things? Pretty much to be expected of a debauched and increasingly morally corrupt culture. At least Trump has the effect of forestalling these developments.
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So people hating Christian “life styles” is to be condemned but Christians hating homosexual “life styles” is to be celebrated? Maybe as well as a better class of politics, you need a better class of Christianity. :cool:
 
LowDown said:
So, convicting Christians for hate crimes because they oppose homosexual life styles and same sex marriage among other things?
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Why is it conservatives like yourself lie so much about this? No one has been convicted because they oppose the homosexual lifestyle or gay marriage. What has been done is to enforce public accommodation laws that have been on the books for DECADES.

Your lying is so ridiculous that almost everything you post is pure dishonesty and lies.
 
Crosscheck said:
According to bible mythology that is how the devil works. The devil does some sickening things but I will ignore that if I can benefit from him.

The devil smiles widely.
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And when the choice is between two devils ...
 
swing_voter said:
More and more Christians are open to having gays in their congregation and gay marriage, but there are still some holdouts.

Within Christianity it's basically an argument between if God made them gay, which I think he did, and those that believe gayness is a learned behavior like drinking or gambling. Please note that a Christian church won't through you out because of drinking or gambling, and I've never heard of one throwing a person out because they're gay.

Personally, if you say Jesus doesn't love the gays, you don't understand your religion.

Yes, I think Christians in America feel under attack. There's no violence because everyone knows that Jesus doesn't like violence, unlike Mohammad.
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The correct issue has never been whether or not to love gays. We are all sinners; gays are no more sinful than others.

Gay activists these days, though, want Christians to accept gay lifestyle and practice as normal. That's not acceptable for many Christians any more than heterosexual extramarital sex is acceptable practice. That it's common and not much remarked on these days does not make it right.
 
Praxas said:
Why is it conservatives like yourself lie so much about this? No one has been convicted because they oppose the homosexual lifestyle or gay marriage. What has been done is to enforce public accommodation laws that have been on the books for DECADES.

Your lying is so ridiculous that almost everything you post is pure dishonesty and lies.
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The scary gaystapo is comin' for 'ya!
 
OrphanSlug said:
Sigh... no one is going to "to make their faith illegal." The only thing that is really happening is trying to divorce theocratic leanings from our government.
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It's almost like there are Christian churches literally everywhere you go.
 
TheGoverness said:
The scary gaystapo is comin' for 'ya!
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I still remember this homophobic guy in high school was so afraid of being near a gay guy because he thought they would hit on him. I reminded him he couldn't even get a girl to hit on him, what makes him think a guy would?
 
TheGoverness said:
The scary gaystapo is comin' for 'ya!
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Christians have been using this notion for a very long time, anytime the social pendulum heads towards liberalism you see more and more articles like the OP source frightening their readers into thinking their religion is going to be harmed or outlawed.

The sad irony is just about every one of the Democratic hopefuls all claim to be religious in some regard, they are simply not Christian enough in their proposals and do not lean theocratic.
 
LowDown said:
The correct issue has never been whether or not to love gays. We are all sinners; gays are no more sinful than others.

Gay activists these days, though, want Christians to accept gay lifestyle and practice as normal. That's not acceptable for many Christians any more than heterosexual extramarital sex is acceptable practice. That it's common and not much remarked on these days does not make it right.
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Look more lies from you. Gays don't want YOU personally to accept anything. They want you to follow public accommodation laws and not discriminate against them illegally. Your dishonesty has now approached epic levels that your lies are so obvious.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Christians have been using this notion for a very long time, anytime the social pendulum heads towards liberalism you see more and more articles like the OP source frightening their readers into thinking their religion is going to be harmed or outlawed.

The sad irony is just about every one of the Democratic hopefuls all claim to be religious in some regard, they are simply not Christian enough in their proposals and do not lean theocratic.
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I remember hearing that Christians were going to be persecuted en-mass on Fox News, once gay marriage was legalized. Where's the gaystapo? Where are the mass arrests?
 
Praxas said:
Look more lies from you. Gays don't want YOU personally to accept anything. They want you to follow public accommodation laws and not discriminate against them illegally. Your dishonesty has now approached epic levels that your lies are so obvious.
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Some activists want this to extend to destroying Christian belief and forcing Christians to betray their beliefs.

"All Churches who condemn us will be closed." AFA Journal - Gay activist’s war against Christianity

The megadonor bankrolling the LGBT movement and its allies in the Democratic Party says he will continue to "punish the wicked" who hold traditional views about sexual morality.
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Millionaire Gay Activist Declares War on Christians With 3 Awful Words — Charisma News

Ultra-Rich Gay Activist On Targeting Christians: It's Time To 'Punish The Wicked'
 
Praxas said:
I still remember this homophobic guy in high school was so afraid of being near a gay guy because he thought they would hit on him. I reminded him he couldn't even get a girl to hit on him, what makes him think a guy would?
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Yeah, that's so annoying. That happened to my girlfriend and I in highschool to an extent (gay dudes got it much worse), but we got out of that hellhole togehter. Honestly, I hated it for a long time, but I got good at ignoring it (my girlfriend would always start yelling, though; that's just how she is). We stuck by our friends, and we didn't need anyone else. Being out of high school now; it's such a wonderful realization to learn how much none of what those assholes said matters in the slightest.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Christians have been using this notion for a very long time, anytime the social pendulum heads towards liberalism you see more and more articles like the OP source frightening their readers into thinking their religion is going to be harmed or outlawed.

The sad irony is just about every one of the Democratic hopefuls all claim to be religious in some regard, they are simply not Christian enough in their proposals and do not lean theocratic.
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You must be this Christian to ride!

Being Christian is basically a requirement to run for the oval office. I highly doubt anyone of any other (or lack of) religious affiliation, will be elected to that office in the next 100 years.
 
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