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    How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Obama promised all these shovel ready jobs and only shoveled manure for 8 years

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    Obama promised all these shovel ready jobs and only shoveled manure for 8 years
    You do remember that in his first term he passed the ACA which is very popular with a majority of Americans. He tried in his second term to start paying for infrastructure projects but Moscow Mitch held them up and when he finally got one approved, trump stopped the Federal Funds for the project when he came into office. SO the one show stinks here is Moscow Mitch an your favorite master Trump.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    I would require that a mile of comparable road be permanently removed for every new mile of road built. I would put an additional 5% federal income tax on payrolls of anybody working in urban areas with more than 100K people.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.
    - The US has a spending problem. Increasing revenue helps, but spending has to be controlled. Even if your idea on how to pay for it was budget neutral, it does not take away that the Feds are borrowing about 40% of what it spends today. The debt would continue to grow.

    I can agree it would not hurt to roll back the tax changes done under the Trump administration.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    - The US has a spending problem. Increasing revenue helps, but spending has to be controlled. Even if your idea on how to pay for it was budget neutral, it does not take away that the Feds are borrowing about 40% of what it spends today. The debt would continue to grow.

    I can agree it would not hurt to roll back the tax changes done under the Trump administration.
    Whatever happened to the balanced budget Amendment people used to talk about?

    I am heartily opposed to deficit spending. I am heartily opposed to constant "borrowing" from the Fed, which increases inflation. I am also heartily opposed to increased taxation to cover giveaways our government should not be dealing in.

    That's one thing I like about Rand Paul, his stand on a balanced budget.

    If you want to improve infrastructure, which I agree is an important function of government, then makes sure it's within a budget and the money is used only for that purpose.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Whatever happened to the balanced budget Amendment people used to talk about?

    I am heartily opposed to deficit spending. I am heartily opposed to constant "borrowing" from the Fed, which increases inflation. I am also heartily opposed to increased taxation to cover giveaways our government should not be dealing in.

    That's one thing I like about Rand Paul, his stand on a balanced budget.

    If you want to improve infrastructure, which I agree is an important function of government, then makes sure it's within a budget and the money is used only for that purpose.
    What I find interesting with the OP plan is hitting the "rich" and corporations. Seems AOC wants the rich to pay for her plans. Seems many politicians running for President want the rich and corporation money. Bottom line, the rich and corporations cannot pay for infrastructure, health care, food for all, schools, etc.

    The US has a spending problem that has been growing for years. What the Feds and States need to do is balance their budgets. Not all programs are going to get all they want and not all programs can continue.

    Besides some tax reform maybe we need to raise the gas tax. I know the gas tax would hit everyone, but it could be one source of revenue. I agree that if a tax is raised to fund infrastructure than it need to go for that. Congress is too easily distracted and use targeted funds for other things.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    How about stop spending money on stupid **** and actually spend it on infrastructure? And tightly define infrastructure as well...roads and bridges...not trolley cars, bike paths, and walking bridges.

    I already pay wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much taxes, thousands and thousands...months of work every year goes to nothing but paying the government to waste my ****ing money. Lower my taxes and leave me the hell alone.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.
    What, exactly, is "the project"? It seems that a large part of the "infrastructure" problem which most are concerned about are roads and bridges (some of them within the interstate highway system) needing repair and/or upgrades. That would seem best addressed by raising the state/federal excise tax on motor fuel and not diverting so much of that revenue to "mass transit" projects to serve local commuters/shoppers.

    It seems that whenever these "infrastructure" mega-bills (increasing federal spending by over $1T?) get cobbled together it simply becomes a pork fest with every representative ensuring that some "fair share" gets directed to a "project" in their district to assure their vote in support of that massive new federal spending.

    It is also rather odd that new federal spending is said to require increased federal tax revenue to pay for it, while old federal spending does not (and never did). Why not start the (new?) "budget" sanity process by actually raising federal revenue to pay for that "old" federal spending (now about $22T behind at last glance)? After that is done then perhaps there would be more popular and thus congressional support for your new project.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    You do remember that in his first term he passed the ACA which is very popular with a majority of Americans.
    Obama passes the ACA BARELY by the skin of his teeth, by zero votes to spare, weakened by compromise, with huge public opposition, the tea party going to town halls so Congress couldn't even have town halls, and resulting in a landslide win for Republicans taking over both houses of Congress the next election. Just as Pelosi said, it took it being enacted for people to see past Republican lies and come to appreciate it.

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