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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    What I find interesting with the OP plan is hitting the "rich" and corporations. Seems AOC wants the rich to pay for her plans. Seems many politicians running for President want the rich and corporation money. Bottom line, the rich and corporations cannot pay for infrastructure, health care, food for all, schools, etc.

    The US has a spending problem that has been growing for years.
    Spending on WHAT?

    What we have is a massive inequality problem that has been growing for 40 years. We need to reverse that - for the rich to get less and everyone else to get more. That's not only a 'zero sum game', but results in more growth as well. High inequality hurts growth, hurts opportunity, increases social costs.

    Where we need to cut spending is on 'corrupt spending' and waste, but that doesn't mean what Republicans think. It means things like the corrupt military industry especially. It means attacking our massively excessive debt with its huge interest payments, DESIGNED to bankrupt our government as the "starve the beast" policy begun with Reagan.

    The Progressive Caucus writes a budget every year that attacks these issues. I'd say it's highly likely you have never read it. It balances the budget faster than the actual, the Republican, OR the Democratic budgets. The problem isn't how to fix this, it's people not trying to.

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Whatever happened to the balanced budget Amendment people used to talk about?

    I am heartily opposed to deficit spending. I am heartily opposed to constant "borrowing" from the Fed, which increases inflation. I am also heartily opposed to increased taxation to cover giveaways our government should not be dealing in.

    That's one thing I like about Rand Paul, his stand on a balanced budget.

    If you want to improve infrastructure, which I agree is an important function of government, then makes sure it's within a budget and the money is used only for that purpose.
    Federal spending is popular while federal taxation is not - congress critters like to be popular.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Spending on WHAT?

    What we have is a massive inequality problem that has been growing for 40 years. We need to reverse that - for the rich to get less and everyone else to get more. That's not only a 'zero sum game', but results in more growth as well. High inequality hurts growth, hurts opportunity, increases social costs.

    Where we need to cut spending is on 'corrupt spending' and waste, but that doesn't mean what Republicans think. It means things like the corrupt military industry especially. It means attacking our massively excessive debt with its huge interest payments, DESIGNED to bankrupt our government as the "starve the beast" policy begun with Reagan.

    The Progressive Caucus writes a budget every year that attacks these issues. I'd say it's highly likely you have never read it. It balances the budget faster than the actual, the Republican, OR the Democratic budgets. The problem isn't how to fix this, it's people not trying to.
    Income redistribution is always the "progressive" answer. In a post allegedly about having less government spending that (bolded above) idea sure does seem to call for more government spending.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.
    The first thing I would do is take an angle grinder to this place... Access Denied ...and remove half of their 3 million employees...maybe even grind away a couple entire departments.

    Next, I would support Trump public/private plan for funding infrastructure problems.

    Oh? You are asking, "What public/private plan?" Yeah...I'm not surprised. As usual, the media doesn't talk about stuff that Trump proposes. Well, you can find out more about it here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...UCTURE-211.pdf

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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    Everybody knows we have a really bad problem with our infrastructure and it is getting worse. We need more than a trillion dollars just to fix the most serious deficits. So what do you suggest doing to pay for this problem?
    Here is my solution. First get rid of the Trump tax cuts and force a minimum tax on corporations that make a profit. This will force the wealthy who in the end get the most out of an improved infrastructure as it helps the business of doing in this country and what is god for business is good for the wealthy and the corporations. Then I would place a two percent tax to enable us to sell infrastructure bonds backed by the US to raise more funds for the project. I have read this would enable us alone to raise 500 billion dollars. This part of the plan would cause everyone to help pay for the project, including those who might not contribute through the Federal Income tax. These two changes would raise over 1 trillion dollars to be put into starting to fix our infrastructure that needs it so badly.
    You guys have the same answer for everything: tax the rich. How about we tax the people who use the infrastructure. User fees are the only real just form of taxation anyway. You want to fix our infrastructure? Raise the money through a gas tax and use the money for these specific improvements only. Does that mean people like you will have to contribute to the improvements? Yes, sorry, it does.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    Obama promised all these shovel ready jobs and only shoveled manure for 8 years
    Trump did the same and hasn't even done thst.


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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You guys have the same answer for everything: tax the rich. How about we tax the people who use the infrastructure. User fees are the only real just form of taxation anyway. You want to fix our infrastructure? Raise the money through a gas tax and use the money for these specific improvements only. Does that mean people like you will have to contribute to the improvements? Yes, sorry, it does.
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    Re: How would you pay to fix our infrastructure problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The first thing I would do is take an angle grinder to this place... Access Denied ...and remove half of their 3 million employees...maybe even grind away a couple entire departments.

    Next, I would support Trump public/private plan for funding infrastructure problems.

    Oh? You are asking, "What public/private plan?" Yeah...I'm not surprised. As usual, the media doesn't talk about stuff that Trump proposes. Well, you can find out more about it here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...UCTURE-211.pdf

    Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
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