Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678
Results 71 to 76 of 76

Thread: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

  1. #71
    Sage
    Aberration's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,401

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    There are no absolute protections for medical conditions. You can’t do many jobs if you’re paralyzed. I am sure there are many other mental conditions that make employment hard.
    “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
    ― Thomas Jefferson

  2. #72
    Sage


    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 04:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    9,124

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I am confused. Title VII of the Civil Rights act does protect one from discrimination on the basis of "sex." But there are only two sexes, male and female.

    Meanwhile you bring up the issue of a "medical condition." Medical conditions are covered by the American's with Disabilities Act.

    Are you asserting that the individual has a mental disability? Even so 42 U.S. Code § 12211 currently has this to say:

    42 U.S. Code SS 12211 - Definitions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

    I don't understand what you mean when you argue this particular issue is a civil rights matter.

    Her condition is specifically excluded from protections under current law, and there is no current Federal Court ruling that conflicts with the law as it stands.

    That may change, as I think there is a case pending in a the Third Circuit...Blatt v. Cabella's Retail, but I haven't found any final ruling on it other than a 2017 opinion at the District Court level denying a motion to dismiss made by the defendants.

    However, I believe that sexual orientation should be added as a protected class. I have no problem with gay and bisexual expression being specifically protected.

    I just don't see much science which supports the idea that gender dysphoria is anything other than a mental condition, although I am open to any clear scientific proof making this a protected class, at least under the ADA.

    A man wants to be a woman. inwardly, he feels that he is a woman. So, he undergoes sexual reassignment surgery, and the therapy that goes with it, hormones, dress, etc.

    Becomes a woman. Called a 'transexual', but I believe we should allow these people to achieve legal female status for that is, indeed, their objective, to be seen as a woman

    That would fulfill the discrimination on the basis of sex, requirement.

    Thing is, I believe the psychology/psychiatry world has stopped thinking of these people with a 'mental disorder', and if that is how they see it, then we should just allow these people to be, live and let live, and give them equality with the rest of us, in the name of peace, love, harmony, and all that.
    Guns do not kill people, people kill people.

    Atomic weapons do not kill people, people kill people.

  3. #73
    Sage


    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 04:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    9,124

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    And I agree with him. A guy dressed in women's clothing (that's what he was at that time when he was fired) in a funeral home is more than most people in mourning can stomach.

    Frankly, I don't care if my doctor, dentist, mechanic etc. changes his/her "sex" every 6 months, but a business should have the right to decide who represents them ... and in this case, for that particular position, they wanted a man in men's clothing.
    It is legal to have a dress code in any place of business.


    So, if he is a cross dresser, the owner is within his right.

    If that person had undergone sexual reassignment surgery, did hormones, and fulfilled his quest to become a woman, i.e, no longer looks like a man in drag, but looks like a woman, I feel
    we should grant them legal female status and be possessing of equal rights granted to everyone else.
    Guns do not kill people, people kill people.

    Atomic weapons do not kill people, people kill people.

  4. #74
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,966

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Keepmcrying2020 View Post
    If Trump shows up in a dress tomorrow I would definitely not vote for him .
    Bull. If Trump did that, you'd start doing it too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    After 50,000 years slavery ended when America began!. Do you understand?

  5. #75
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,966

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    So, let me get this straight: a funeral home hires a person by the name of Anthony who presents him/herself as a man and agrees in a contract to wear men's clothing while representing the business.

    6 years later that person decides to break the contract ... and sues because the company is not happy about him/her/it breaking the contract.

    ... Up yours, Anthony/Aimee!
    Was it in the contract that she would not be transgender?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    After 50,000 years slavery ended when America began!. Do you understand?

  6. #76
    Heavy Hitter



    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    @
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    101,924

    Re: Trump Admin for Discrimination: Trans Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    It is legal to have a dress code in any place of business.


    So, if he is a cross dresser, the owner is within his right.

    If that person had undergone sexual reassignment surgery, did hormones, and fulfilled his quest to become a woman, i.e, no longer looks like a man in drag, but looks like a woman, I feel
    we should grant them legal female status and be possessing of equal rights granted to everyone else.
    Something along these lines is probably fair.

    Ya can’t just show up for work one day and say, “new rules!” Now, show up with a doctor’s note, and maybe we’ll talk.
    Donald Trump is a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a weak man's idea of a strong man. --Meme of the Year nominee

Page 8 of 8 FirstFirst ... 678

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •