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Why do most white evangelicals vote Republican?

apdst said:
Notice you're not defending your idiotic comment. :lamo
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No, it's just that you always try and deflect and use fallacies. Again, you didn't complain about me saying the bible condones Rape and Pedophilia. Do you agree or disagree?


Back to adultery condoned in the bible. How the hell do you know so little about the bible? I mean we're talking Genesis, and you haven't even read that far? Have you even opened it? :lamo

Genesis 29:21-35
Then Jacob said to Laban, “Give me my wife. My time is completed, and I want to make love to her.”

22 So Laban brought together all the people of the place and gave a feast. 23 But when evening came, he took his daughter Leah and brought her to Jacob, and Jacob made love to her. 24 And Laban gave his servant Zilpah to his daughter as her attendant.

25 When morning came, there was Leah! So Jacob said to Laban, “What is this you have done to me? I served you for Rachel, didn’t I? Why have you deceived me?”

26 Laban replied, “It is not our custom here to give the younger daughter in marriage before the older one. 27 Finish this daughter’s bridal week; then we will give you the younger one also, in return for another seven years of work.”

28 And Jacob did so. He finished the week with Leah, and then Laban gave him his daughter Rachel to be his wife. 29 Laban gave his servant Bilhah to his daughter Rachel as her attendant. 30 Jacob made love to Rachel also, and his love for Rachel was greater than his love for Leah. And he worked for Laban another seven years.


Jacob’s Children

31 When the Lord saw that Leah was not loved, he enabled her to conceive, but Rachel remained childless. 32 Leah became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She named him Reuben,[a] for she said, “It is because the Lord has seen my misery. Surely my husband will love me now.”

33 She conceived again, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “Because the Lord heard that I am not loved, he gave me this one too.” So she named him Simeon.

34 Again she conceived, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “Now at last my husband will become attached to me, because I have borne him three sons.” So he was named Levi.[c]

35 She conceived again, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “This time I will praise the Lord.” So she named him Judah.[d] Then she stopped having children.
 
JustHanging said:
No, it's just that you always try and deflect and use fallacies. Again, you didn't complain about me saying the bible condones Rape and Pedophilia. Do you agree or disagree?


Back to adultery condoned in the bible. How the hell do you know so little about the bible? I mean we're talking Genesis, and you haven't even read that far? Have you even opened it? :lamo

Genesis 29:21-35
Then Jacob said to Laban, “Give me my wife. My time is completed, and I want to make love to her.”

22 So Laban brought together all the people of the place and gave a feast. 23 But when evening came, he took his daughter Leah and brought her to Jacob, and Jacob made love to her. 24 And Laban gave his servant Zilpah to his daughter as her attendant.

25 When morning came, there was Leah! So Jacob said to Laban, “What is this you have done to me? I served you for Rachel, didn’t I? Why have you deceived me?”

26 Laban replied, “It is not our custom here to give the younger daughter in marriage before the older one. 27 Finish this daughter’s bridal week; then we will give you the younger one also, in return for another seven years of work.”

28 And Jacob did so. He finished the week with Leah, and then Laban gave him his daughter Rachel to be his wife. 29 Laban gave his servant Bilhah to his daughter Rachel as her attendant. 30 Jacob made love to Rachel also, and his love for Rachel was greater than his love for Leah. And he worked for Laban another seven years.


Jacob’s Children

31 When the Lord saw that Leah was not loved, he enabled her to conceive, but Rachel remained childless. 32 Leah became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She named him Reuben,[a] for she said, “It is because the Lord has seen my misery. Surely my husband will love me now.”

33 She conceived again, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “Because the Lord heard that I am not loved, he gave me this one too.” So she named him Simeon.

34 Again she conceived, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “Now at last my husband will become attached to me, because I have borne him three sons.” So he was named Levi.[c]

35 She conceived again, and when she gave birth to a son she said, “This time I will praise the Lord.” So she named him Judah.[d] Then she stopped having children.
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You didn't read that before you posted it. Did you?

Of course you didn't. Someone told you that that condoned adultry and you were like, "Uh...ok!".
 
Bodhisattva said:
That is the Old Testament... Christians following the New Testament and Christianity...
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Funny how most anti gay Christians still point to Leviticus when supporting their anti gay agenda though.
 
3leftsdoo said:
This is actually an interesting question, but it presumes that Jesus would be a Democrat or liberal or progressive if He were around today.

Libertarian seems more like it, or maybe Green?

But I know plenty of Christians who wouldn't vote for Trump over the pooty-grabbing stuff & so on.

Putting people in boxes...
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If Jesus was around today's mostly he'd be disappointed.
 
Phys251 said:
White evangelical Christians voted overwhelmingly for Trump* in the 2016 election. They did this despite the fact that

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why do these "Christians" vote against just about everything Jesus stood for?

* - You can quickly find the relevant numbers by searching for "religion" in the set of exit polls.
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People's politics override their religion. That's how it is a lot of the time.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Are you saying that white Christians are "very good people" too?
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I think many Christians are criminals and rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
 
Praxas said:
Funny how most anti gay Christians still point to Leviticus when supporting their anti gay agenda though.
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They are not Christians...
 
Deuce said:
Do you have some kind of problem with Jews?
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I tried to get Hug a Jew Day in place in my town... it did not pass. So no... no problems.
 
Bodhisattva said:
They are not Christians...
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Well than you are claiming that Trump supporters are not Christians since many have cited Leviticus. So if you were so called Christian you would be against Trump BRAGGING about grabbing ******s and walking in on pageant contestants nude when those pageants were open to 14 year olds. However, haven't heard you ONCE denounce Trump's comments. Amazing that huh?
 
The vast majority of religious stuff that happens in the west has little to do with the classical teachings of the religion. It's all cherry-picked and reinterpreted **** to make it say what they want - and it was already a giant conglomeration of things that people from way back wanted just put into a form to make it seem like it came from something higher.

Especially in America, Christianity has very little to do with the Bible and even less to do with Jesus, in any real terms. It's largely a conservative movement that uses what it can from the religion to justify it - because it would be completely unjustifiable any other way.
 
Praxas said:
Funny how most anti gay Christians still point to Leviticus when supporting their anti gay agenda though.
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I hope they don't eat shrimp, wear clothes with mixed fabric, or shave their sideburns, because the OT laws condemns all of that as well.
 
apdst said:
No, that was the government. If the government would get out of our private lives, no one could stop gays from marrying.
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NO, that was the church.

See, they figured that if they bent the knee just a little bit to the government and allowed them some say in thier sacrament, they would eventually be able to have the government be the arbiters of thier sacrament, and as such, could have the support of law in preventing whomever they didn't want to have the sacrament from taking part in it.

The only problem was they weren't smart enough to forsee that by making that deal with the devil, thier sacrament would become nothing more than a legal status, and as such, the government no longer had a compelling case for why some people could enjoy the governmental benefits bestowed upon marriage and others couldn't.

The government wasn't originally IN peoples lives when it came to the issue of marriage. It was the church who was more than willing to allow the government control over marriage when they thought it was a means to legalized control over that sacrament.
 
apdst said:
Is killing wrong?
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Yes, but not because God said so. It is one person ceasing to respect another persons right to live.

Should it be illegal?
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Again, yes, but not because of anything God did or didn't say.

What about stealing?
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Again, yes, but not because God said you shouldn't do it.

Is adultry a crime?
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Depends on what part of society you find yourself in. It is in the military. Technically, its not in the civilian world. Whether or not it should be is a completely different discussion.
 
Us white Christians vote Republican because we don't approve of the policies of the liberal filth.
 
It's interesting that so far the Christians are all voting against liberals rather than for Republicans.
 
Deuce said:
It's interesting that so far the Christians are all voting against liberals rather than for Republicans.
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kind of. religion, in general, is going to lean pretty hard conservative, and if you have one side pander to that, it just kinda makes sense.
 
nekrodev said:
kind of. religion, in general, is going to lean pretty hard conservative, and if you have one side pander to that, it just kinda makes sense.
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But what I'm saying is that we're really seeing the opposite.

"I vote Republican because I share those values" isn't what they've said here. They've said "I vote Republican because Liberals Bad!"
 
Deuce said:
But what I'm saying is that we're really seeing the opposite.

"I vote Republican because I share those values" isn't what they've said here. They've said "I vote Republican because Liberals Bad!"
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"Liberals bad" is basically a value, though. Anti-choice, against helping the poor and downtrodden, against better education, against freedom and tolerance when it comes to things they don't like, etc...
 
bullseyelqcs said:
Yes, but not because God said so. It is one person ceasing to respect another persons right to live.



Again, yes, but not because of anything God did or didn't say.



Again, yes, but not because God said you shouldn't do it.



Depends on what part of society you find yourself in. It is in the military. Technically, its not in the civilian world. Whether or not it should be is a completely different discussion.
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Bigger question is why some people need a book to not act like barbarians.
 
Phys251 said:
White evangelical Christians voted overwhelmingly for Trump* in the 2016 election. They did this despite the fact that

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Why do these "Christians" vote against just about everything Jesus stood for?

* - You can quickly find the relevant numbers by searching for "religion" in the set of exit polls.
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1. They are mostly white.

2. They have been brainwashed into believing D = Satan

3. Abortion

4. Gays

5. Muslims
 
Phys251 said:
Bigger question is why some people need a book to not act like barbarians.
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Evangelicals did NOT vote for the Mormon Romneycare in the following states that flipped from Obama to trump: IA, WI, MI, OH, PA, and FL. Sandernistas returned that favor in 2016.
 
calamity said:
1. They are mostly white.

2. They have been brainwashed into believing D = Satan

3. Abortion

4. Gays

5. Muslims
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It’s as simple as JAGGG for me — Judges, Abortion, Guns, God, Gays
 
apdst said:
The church isn't protesting civil rights, like Leftists do.
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Examples of "leftists" protesting civil rights, along with your definition of the term "leftist" might help clear up that post.
 
Deuce said:
But what I'm saying is that we're really seeing the opposite.

"I vote Republican because I share those values" isn't what they've said here. They've said "I vote Republican because Liberals Bad!"
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Do the evangelicals actually think the Trump Administration is conservative? They must have a really strange definition of the term if they do.
 
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