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Stop politicizing EVERYTHING!!

Captain Adverse said:
Thanks, and to show I read the citation, here is a quote worth noting from it:



I've been arguing about this problem every time I mention the demonizing tactics of moral panic, or the propaganda efforts (repeat a few things over and over to create belief) of most media outlets.

This very Forum has become so divided that members who once agreed to disagree in a friendly way, now spend much of their time using ad hominin's and other fallacies to scapegoat and dismiss.

There is absolutely no room for compromise in this cycle of extremism. No respect, just agree or be labeled and damned.

Little wonder that we have a small number of outliers, the very fringes of society, being emboldened to act out their biases like those examples in Dayton and El Paso.

The question becomes, how to rein this in while still holding to ones principles?

It takes effort, and IMO the first step is one step back to self-evaluate, followed by a re-evaluation of ones foundational beliefs and the evidence used to support them. The next step is to come back to the discourse as dispassionately as one is able, and treat one's opponents with the same respect one demands for oneself.

Otherwise, we end up creating a society so divided by extremes we lose the drive to reach consensus and compromise, and when that option is gone only bad ones remain.
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The fact that you've conflated the Dayton and El Paso shootings means you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, it's about ****ing time people stopped "agreeing to disagree" with fascists and racists and other varieties of bigots.

There's only one side with an "extreme" portion that anyone needs to worry about, and that's the right - where these people regularly murder massive numbers of people for the very same reasons as what gets spouted from Donald Trump and Fox News, much less further right outlets like Breitbart. The "extreme left" is a few ridiculous college students with very little power, and no one outside of their group likes them.
 
Bullseye said:
Lead what? I clearly explained my position many posts ago. Do I have to explain that "not everything needs to be politicized" isn't the same as "nothing needs to be politicized"?
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We'll I've seen your posts. So again when?
 
This is the most eloquent version of "Be civil, libtard" I have read so far.

The right have been slinging **** at the left for as long as I can remember.

Its only when the left got fed up and started giving as good as they got that we started seeing all this smarmy "can't we all just get along" bull****.

Its all propaganda, or more accurately what I suspect was an unintended consequence of over-application of weaponized speech by the manipulation industries. Possibly the result of unlimited, often anonymous money available for its manufacture and distribution.

Has anybody here not noticed the 24 hour delay between trump screwing up or some dem stepping in it and the newest messaging showing up all over the place at the same time? All the same words and phrases, imagery, etc.

That's apparently how long it takes to analyse the situation and craft a response that will hopefully elicit the desired emotional response to the subject at hand.

It is constant, ubiquitous. I used to hope that parents would get pissed about it. And they do when something particularly egregious occurs. But the fire dies down and they evidently refuse to see that the propagandization of and marketing to their kids goes on unabated.

But lets just argue about their latest content instead of addressing their industries.
 
nekrodev said:
The fact that you've conflated the Dayton and El Paso shootings means you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, it's about ****ing time people stopped "agreeing to disagree" with fascists and racists and other varieties of bigots.

There's only one side with an "extreme" portion that anyone needs to worry about, and that's the right - where these people regularly murder massive numbers of people for the very same reasons as what gets spouted from Donald Trump and Fox News, much less further right outlets like Breitbart. The "extreme left" is a few ridiculous college students with very little power, and no one outside of their group likes them.
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Thank you for providing a clear example which makes my point.

It was only a matter of time. :coffeepap:
 
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calamity said:
When using a four syllable word, I at least know what it means. :doh
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I doubt that.

vDefinition of voluminous
1a : having or marked by great volume or bulk : LARGE
long voluminous tresses
also : FULL
a voluminous skirt
b : NUMEROUS
trying to keep track of voluminous slips of paper
2a : filling or capable of filling a large volume or several volumes
a voluminous literature on the subject
b : writing or speaking much or at great length
a voluminous correspondent
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calamity said:
Funny thing is that Birtherism was bat**** insane enough that any idiot who promoted it should be harped on.

But, I can understand why you would want to run away from talking about it.
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I understand you guys are running out of ammo to use against Trump, what with the economy and jobs market going well. An Mueller's belly flop had to sting. And now, the investigations are going against YOUR guys and the fans are spinning up in anticipation of the fecal matter about to be flung at them. :hitsfan:
 
Bullseye said:
Of course you've seen them. But I've seen little proof you comprehend them or the subject link.
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Ah an insult. I've read the link. It's a good advice for everyone, including yourself. Since you're the OP
, why dont you show the way?
 
AProudLefty said:
Ah an insult. I've read the link. It's a good advice for everyone, including yourself. Since you're the OP
, why dont you show the way?
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No insult, just observed facts.
 
Bullseye said:
No insult, just observed facts.
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Your observation through your right wing glasses? I completely understood the article. Stop policitizing things that don't need to be politicized. Again, when are you going to start?
 
Bullseye said:
I understand you guys are running out of ammo to use against Trump, what with the economy and jobs market going well. An Mueller's belly flop had to sting. And now, the investigations are going against YOUR guys and the fans are spinning up in anticipation of the fecal matter about to be flung at them. :hitsfan:
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Hence the Left's new, post-Mueller narrative...

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AProudLefty said:
Your observation through your right wing glasses? I completely understood the article. Stop policitizing things that don't need to be politicized. Again, when are you going to start?
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Been doing it all along.
 
Bullseye said:
"Listening to your opinion" does not equate to agreeing with it. Oh, and no one is calling for "no politicizing" anything.
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Oh great. We are back to your reverse anti-intellectual BS where you try to not listen to other posters, even though that's what the article you posted claims to support while also claiming that it's perfectly fine not to embrace it's message of not politicizing everything, even though you posted the title in caps with exclamation points. It's also perfectly fine in your world for the guy calling for this to be an extreme right winger tea party lover. :lamo
 
AProudLefty said:
Oh you can be sure of that. The next time you politicize something unnecessarly, I'll remind you of your thread.
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Except it's not your call what's necessary or unnecessary.
 
NeverTrump said:
Oh great. We are back to your reverse anti-intellectual BS where you try to not listen to other posters, even though that's what the article you posted claims to support while also claiming that it's perfectly fine not to embrace it's message of not politicizing everything, even though you posted the title in caps with exclamation points. It's also perfectly fine in your world for the guy calling for this to be an extreme right winger tea party lover. :lamo
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What? That is NOT what I'm saying. How do you come up with this ****?
 
The only things that aren't political in nature, and maybe should not be politicized, are very specific things created without that intent. This is a poor example, because politics are clearly brought up, but imagine if there was no mention of politics or anything political in the Harry Potter books. Then, maybe there's an argument not to try to make it political.

However, virtually every topic in a generalized sense (sports, jobs, cars, video games, etc...) is easily related to politics on at least a few levels. You have to drill down much more specifically about anything to get away from it - like discussing your favorite NFL team, maybe, but even then, there are things that have already been made political (like, say someone kneeling during the national anthem) without your effort.

This type of thing is basically just a cop out for conservatives who are wrong about everything, but rather than educate themselves, they'd rather just avoid the issue altogether.
 
Bullseye said:
What? That is NOT what I'm saying. How do you come up with this ****?
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That's what I got out of everything you have been saying on this thread. Unless you have some other ulterior motives you are just trying to get the left to shut up

Either way you have not done a very good job arguing whatever point you were trying to make

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