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Don't heckle people in their private lives, not even Chris Cuomo

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Is that a call for violence? I thought you were considering taking the high road?
Is this an admission that the lefts behavior is violent?

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I think the Left excels and some things where those on the Right are still lacking. When it comes to their violent rhetoric, targeting, doxxing, harassing, and generally following the marching order of Maxine Waters, I don't want any part of that. However, I do think the Right can follow their lead when it comes to being on the same page and having a unified voice to drive the narrative. We also need to be more grass roots to engage voters and be those "community organizers".
Wadr, i disagree with you. The left is playing a dangerous game right now. They keep ratching up the tension and claim its nonviolent 1st amendment rights. There comes a time to put an end to it. Turning the other cheek isnt working.

Remember what obama said after he was elected
"They bring a knife, we bring a gun"
When thats the mentality you're up against, you have to punch back. They need to feel the pain they are inflicting on others.

Why do you think they hate Trump so much. Its because he punches back. He calls them all the same nasty things that they call him. They dont like being treated how they treat others.

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Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.
I liked your post because i agree with you but when ine side does not respect that rule on a large scale it becomes time for another rule
Do unto others as they do unto you

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The right murders people, so which side is doing the heckling definitely makes a difference.
If thats what you wsnt to hang your hat on to justify the lefts antics, be my guest. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences

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If thats what you wsnt to hang your hat on to justify the lefts antics, be my guest. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences

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The consequences of what?
 
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Wadr, i disagree with you. The left is playing a dangerous game right now. They keep ratching up the tension and claim its nonviolent 1st amendment rights. There comes a time to put an end to it. Turning the other cheek isnt working.

Remember what obama said after he was elected
"They bring a knife, we bring a gun"
When thats the mentality you're up against, you have to punch back. They need to feel the pain they are inflicting on others.

Why do you think they hate Trump so much. Its because he punches back. He calls them all the same nasty things that they call him. They dont like being treated how they treat others.

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Oh, they flop around like a Brazilian soccer player when they get hit back! The Left's game is dangerous, I agree. But I also see them destroying each other with their purity and intersectionality. Sometimes I think we need to meet fire with fire, and other times I think all we need to do is sit back and watch them eat each other.
Bill Maher-that bastion of acerbic Leftist "comedy"- is being attacked by Tlaib! Boycott him because he DARED speak his mind about her vicious BDS antics. She whinges about being silenced then turns around and tries to silence Bill Maher.
Can't wait to see how the Jay-Z/Kaepernick fued escalates if the former dares to break ranks and do business with the NFL.

I'm just tempering my approach with a little more patience, because I think the Left is going to burn its own house down.

Just wait until 2020.
 
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Is this an admission that the lefts behavior is violent?

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No. You're not very good at this, are you? I was using your own belief (that the left's behavior is violent) against you. If you truly believe that then you should take the high road yourself or else turn your own hypocrisy on your own belief. You're defeating yourself.
 
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Right after the left does

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So right after you let go of your delusion about the left? Well that'll take a while.
 
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No. You're not very good at this, are you? I was using your own belief (that the left's behavior is violent) against you. If you truly believe that then you should take the high road yourself or else turn your own hypocrisy on your own belief. You're defeating yourself.
I see your confusion. Its true i do believe that engaging in those activities can incite violence but im also willing to entertain that im wrong and the left is right.

Im curious what your objection is to the right excercising their 1st A rights in the same manner as the left currently does if you disagree that its dangerous? I would think anyone who does not believe it is would be indifferent to the suggestion.

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I see your confusion. Its true i do believe that engaging in those activities can incite violence but im also willing to entertain that im wrong and the left is right.

Im curious what your objection is to the right excercising their 1st A rights in the same manner as the left currently does if you disagree that its dangerous? I would think anyone who does not believe it is would be indifferent to the suggestion.

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What confusion? And I never said that the left is right. You and I are right about many times. Left and right are right about many things. Do you or do you not agree that there are violence and hate in BOTH left and right?

Who said I had an objection to the right exercising their 1st Amendment rights? See you continue your belief about the left being violent and trying to suppress your speech rights. I am on the left and proud of it. Do you see me trying to silence you? Do you see other people here on my side trying to silence you?
 
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So right after you let go of your delusion about the left? Well that'll take a while.
Maybe if you explain what im deluded about we can address it.

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The consequences of what?
The consequences of your misconception that only the behaviur on the right leads to violent outcomes.

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Maybe if you explain what im deluded about we can address it.

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Didn't you read your own link??? He never said we should give Cuomo a pass. He is saying no matter which side you're on, you should never heckle or try to provoke a public figure, especially when filming in the presence of children. You do understand that Tucker Carlson agreed that it's a bad form?
 
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The consequences of your misconception that only the behaviur on the right leads to violent outcomes.

And yet you're the one who kept saying that the left is prone to violence.
 
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Oh, they flop around like a Brazilian soccer player when they get hit back! The Left's game is dangerous, I agree. But I also see them destroying each other with their purity and intersectionality. Sometimes I think we need to meet fire with fire, and other times I think all we need to do is sit back and watch them eat each other.
Bill Maher-that bastion of acerbic Leftist "comedy"- is being attacked by Tlaib! Boycott him because he DARED speak his mind about her vicious BDS antics. She whinges about being silenced then turns around and tries to silence Bill Maher.
Can't wait to see how the Jay-Z/Kaepernick fued escalates if the former dares to break ranks and do business with the NFL.

I'm just tempering my approach with a little more patience, because I think the Left is going to burn its own house down.

Just wait until 2020.
Your disagreement is fair. I flip flop between your position and the one ive taken here as well.

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What confusion? And I never said that the left is right. You and I are right about many times. Left and right are right about many things. Do you or do you not agree that there are violence and hate in BOTH left and right?

Who said I had an objection to the right exercising their 1st Amendment rights? See you continue your belief about the left being violent and trying to suppress your speech rights. I am on the left and proud of it. Do you see me trying to silence you? Do you see other people here on my side trying to silence you?
Im not talking about you personally. I happily concede that there are msny good people on both sides (see what i did there lol)

What im saying is that the author in the op-ed suggests conservatives should be the bigger people and condemn the actions of the guy who harassed cumo while out in public with his family. I am disagreeing with his opinion.

The reason why is because i dont see the left condemning the people on their side when they do those things.

If its ok for the left to behave with incivility than the right should not bother to empathize for them when they are treated just as indecent.

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I think the Left excels and some things where those on the Right are still lacking. When it comes to their violent rhetoric, targeting, doxxing, harassing, and generally following the marching order of Maxine Waters, I don't want any part of that. However, I do think the Right can follow their lead when it comes to being on the same page and having a unified voice to drive the narrative. We also need to be more grass roots to engage voters and be those "community organizers".

Wadr, i disagree with you. The left is playing a dangerous game right now. They keep ratching up the tension and claim its nonviolent 1st amendment rights. There comes a time to put an end to it. Turning the other cheek isnt working.

Remember what obama said after he was elected
"They bring a knife, we bring a gun"
When thats the mentality you're up against, you have to punch back. They need to feel the pain they are inflicting on others.

Why do you think they hate Trump so much. Its because he punches back. He calls them all the same nasty things that they call him. They dont like being treated how they treat others.

Oh, they flop around like a Brazilian soccer player when they get hit back! The Left's game is dangerous, I agree. But I also see them destroying each other with their purity and intersectionality. Sometimes I think we need to meet fire with fire, and other times I think all we need to do is sit back and watch them eat each other.
Bill Maher-that bastion of acerbic Leftist "comedy"- is being attacked by Tlaib! Boycott him because he DARED speak his mind about her vicious BDS antics. She whinges about being silenced then turns around and tries to silence Bill Maher.
Can't wait to see how the Jay-Z/Kaepernick fued escalates if the former dares to break ranks and do business with the NFL.

I'm just tempering my approach with a little more patience, because I think the Left is going to burn its own house down.

Just wait until 2020.

Your disagreement is fair. I flip flop between your position and the one ive taken here as well.

Anyone else get sick to their stomach after watching people utter the most mind-****ingly hackish swill, just like the above, and try to dress it up with words they heard somewhere, which they clearly think make their opinion sound more learned and objective?

Anyone else notice that those - again, like the above - who make the loudest noises pretending to have a problem with "hatred" are the ones who are constantly going on these hateful rants?





The left this/the left that.

/spit
 
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Your disagreement is fair. I flip flop between your position and the one ive taken here as well.

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Ditto;)
 
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Anyone else get sick to their stomach after watching people utter the most mind-****ingly hackish swill, just like the above, and try to dress it up with words they heard somewhere, which they clearly think make their opinion sound more learned and objective?

Anyone else notice that those - again, like the above - who make the loudest noises pretending to have a problem with "hatred" are the ones who are constantly going on these hateful rants?





The left this/the left that.

/spit

trouble13- they hate when they see our side can disagree with civility and learn from one another. I know I did from our conversation today. Thanks.
 
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Basically the author makes the point that we should ignore the fact that the left does not condemn public harassment of people on the right

That's not a point, but I can see why you think it might be: it is exactly the kind of hyperpartisan overgeneralization that the people you pretend are victims constantly throw at their perceived political foes here on DP.

The left this/the left that.



And to sweeten the deal, it's steeped in the usual hypocrisy: every time a thread is started about one person on the right who did or said a bad thing, the defense is that they're not really on the right and you aren't answerable for their behavior. But you have no problem trying to pretend everyone you think is on the left is answerable for the acts of any particular individual you identify as being on the left.

It'd be hilarious if that kind of partisan hypocrisy didn't find its way into the voting booth...
 
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Didn't you read your own link??? He never said we should give Cuomo a pass. He is saying no matter which side you're on, you should never heckle or try to provoke a public figure, especially when filming in the presence of children. You do understand that Tucker Carlson agreed that it's a bad form?

He is saying that the right should not be tolerant of what was done to cumo because its wrong no matter who it happens too.

I agree its wrong but i disagree that people on the right should condemn what people on the left wont condemn.

You bring up tucker Carlson and how his incident was treated is a good example. There was no outcry that what was done to him and his family being outrageous. At best you may be able to find someone saying it was wrong BUT the protestors were within their rights. They couch their luke warm condemnation with rationalizations. They know it was wrong and they dont really care because he is a conservative.

Why should conservstives care when it happens to progressives.

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Im not talking about you personally. I happily concede that there are msny good people on both sides (see what i did there lol)

What im saying is that the author in the op-ed suggests conservatives should be the bigger people and condemn the actions of the guy who harassed cumo while out in public with his family. I am disagreeing with his opinion.

The reason why is because i dont see the left condemning the people on their side when they do those things.

If its ok for the left to behave with incivility than the right should not bother to empathize for them when they are treated just as indecent.

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There's one from your own link. :)
"Many members of the media, myself included, condemned the Antifa protest at Tucker Carlson's home."
 
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You bring up tucker Carlson and how his incident was treated is a good example. There was no outcry that what was done to him and his family being outrageous. At best you may be able to find someone saying it was wrong BUT the protestors were within their rights. They couch their luke warm condemnation with rationalizations. They know it was wrong and they dont really care because he is a conservative.

Source?
 
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You bring up tucker Carlson and how his incident was treated is a good example. There was no outcry that what was done to him and his family being outrageous. At best you may be able to find someone saying it was wrong BUT the protestors were within their rights. They couch their luke warm condemnation with rationalizations. They know it was wrong and they dont really care because he is a conservative.

Source?
 
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Anyone else get sick to their stomach after watching people utter the most mind-****ingly hackish swill, just like the above, and try to dress it up with words they heard somewhere, which they clearly think make their opinion sound more learned and objective?

Anyone else notice that those - again, like the above - who make the loudest noises pretending to have a problem with "hatred" are the ones who are constantly going on these hateful rants?





The left this/the left that.

/spit
Should i hug people who show me utter contempt and disdain?

If you walk by me while a group of thugs are kicking me down in the street one day and the next day im walking down the street while a group of thugs are kicking you down, dont be offended when i dont stop to help you is what im saying.

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