• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Don't heckle people in their private lives, not even Chris Cuomo

trouble13

DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Messages
58,827
Reaction score
17,437
This is an interesting op ed.

Don't heckle people in their private lives, not even Chris Cuomo

Basically the author makes the point that we should ignore the fact that the left does not condemn public harassment of people on the right, but that we should be the bigger people by giving cumo a pass.

I dont think i agree that Cumo should get a pass. I dont think the double standard will end that way. I think tje right should treat this exactly as the left treat its when the roles are reversed, with extreme indifference and offerimgs of free speech defenses.

Why should cumo or anyone ne free of the consequences of the things they encourage.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Fredo isn't a private person.

If you're a celebrity, even a useless, pandering meathead, part of your life is being approached in public.

People didn't show up at his house in the compound - which would be pretty sleazy - a guy approached him in public.

Fair game unless maybe he's taking Mama Corleone out for a cannoli.

If Fredo can't cope, maybe he could retire to Havana or Las Vegas?
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Fredo isn't a private person.

If you're a celebrity, even a useless, pandering meathead, part of your life is being approached in public.

People didn't show up at his house in the compound - which would be pretty sleazy - a guy approached him in public.

Fair game unless maybe he's taking Mama Corleone out for a cannoli.

If Fredo can't cope, maybe he could retire to Havana or Las Vegas?
I have no empathy for him but my question for you is do you think the right should take the higher road as the author suggested?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

I have no empathy for him but my question for you is do you think the right should take the higher road as the author suggested?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Well, it depends somewhat on how hilarious the results are.

In this case, the low-road adjacent approach yielded the benefit of exposing Fredo as a raving loon AND (yet again) exposing CNN's massive hypocrisy in labeling something their own people have said numerous times as an "ethnic slur."

Showing up at Fredo's house or pestering him when he's with his grandma or something?

That would be unacceptably low.

So it depends.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Well, it depends somewhat on how hilarious the results are.

In this case, the low-road adjacent approach yielded the benefit of exposing Fredo as a raving loon AND (yet again) exposing CNN's massive hypocrisy in labeling something their own people have said numerous times as an "ethnic slur."

Showing up at Fredo's house or pestering him when he's with his grandma or something?

That would be unacceptably low.

So it depends.
His children were with him. That to me makes it worse than if he was by himself and i think it was inappropiate but at the same time i have a hard time swallowing this authors "be the bigger person" schtick when it has not worked in the past. I am of the opinion that when the left engages in these type tactics the best response is to make them just as uncomfortable by feeding it back to them. Its the only path i see to a truce.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

His children were with him. That to me makes it worse than if he was by himself and i think it was inappropiate but at the same time i have a hard time swallowing this authors "be the bigger person" schtick when it has not worked in the past. I am of the opinion that when the left engages in these type tactics the best response is to make them just as uncomfortable by feeding it back to them. Its the only path i see to a truce.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

We have a citizen government.

So IMO they get what they get from other citizens.

Don't want to be called a dick to your face in public?

Don't be a dick.

Pretty simple.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

It's one thing to go out of your way to find people to harass like this, but it's whatever if you just happen to see them and feel like telling them that you think they're an asshole or whatever.

If I was at a restaurant and Mitch McConnell walked in, I'll be damned if I wouldn't start a "Moscow Mitch" chant or boo him or something. But, I wouldn't stalk him to initiate these sorts of things, that's insane.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

There's a dichotomy at play here, and it's how the media treat these instances. Mitch McConnell's home gets descended upon by raving lunatics calling for him to be stabbed in the heart and the MSM touts it as patriotic Americans exercising their 1st amendment right. Chris Cuomo gets called, "Fredo" and OMG!!! IT'S THE N-WORD FOR ITALIANS!. Poor Cuomo!

You have to understand at its core, this problem revolves around the fact that the Left has no moral compass. Lying, manipulation and hypocrisy are who they are and what they do. Applying civility, decency and fairness isn't logical.

So yeah, the Right should continue to take the high road and do things the right way-- at the ballot box. So, believe in our Constitution and know that Trump is reversing the Leftist stacking of the courts.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

His children were with him. That to me makes it worse than if he was by himself and i think it was inappropiate but at the same time i have a hard time swallowing this authors "be the bigger person" schtick when it has not worked in the past. I am of the opinion that when the left engages in these type tactics the best response is to make them just as uncomfortable by feeding it back to them. Its the only path i see to a truce.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

His kids were with him? :shock:

And he reacted like THAT?

Wow.

While the whole thing is 99.999% on Fredo, if with kids, I'd say stay away.

But again, it was a pretty mild poke, so...

Bottom line:

The guy seriously needs anger management.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

It's one thing to go out of your way to find people to harass like this, but it's whatever if you just happen to see them and feel like telling them that you think they're an asshole or whatever.

If I was at a restaurant and Mitch McConnell walked in, I'll be damned if I wouldn't start a "Moscow Mitch" chant or boo him or something. But, I wouldn't stalk him to initiate these sorts of things, that's insane.

Fredo was stalked?

:roll:

You don't need to look past...

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!

...Michael.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

There's a dichotomy at play here, and it's how the media treat these instances. Mitch McConnell's home gets descended upon by raving lunatics calling for him to be stabbed in the heart and the MSM touts it as patriotic Americans exercising their 1st amendment right. Chris Cuomo gets called, "Fredo" and OMG!!! IT'S THE N-WORD FOR ITALIANS!. Poor Cuomo!

You have to understand at its core, this problem revolves around the fact that the Left has no moral compass. Lying, manipulation and hypocrisy are who they are and what they do. Applying civility, decency and fairness isn't logical.

So yeah, the Right should continue to take the high road and do things the right way-- at the ballot box. So, believe in our Constitution and know that Trump is reversing the Leftist stacking of the courts.

Well, let's up the ante.

Do you think it's ever acceptable to go to a public person's private residence to protest?

I would say absolutely not for speech. (Like that Fox guy - Carlson? - who had a bunch of protestors show up.)

But if it's a CEO who just jacked up the price my kids essential medication to an unaffordable level to make themselves even richer...
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Fredo was stalked?

:roll:

You don't need to look past...

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!

...Michael.

I'm not sure if you misread my post or are intentionally misrepresenting what I said, but this was not what I said, nor was it what I meant to imply. I was simply making a distinction between what tends to happen most often - like a Republican Senator being in a public place, people recognizing them, and then heckling them versus actually doing something morally questionable.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

I have no empathy for him but my question for you is do you think the right should take the higher road as the author suggested?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Sure. When will you do it?
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Well, let's up the ante.

Do you think it's ever acceptable to go to a public person's private residence to protest?

I would say absolutely not for speech. (Like that Fox guy - Carlson? - who had a bunch of protestors show up.)

But if it's a CEO who just jacked up the price my kids essential medication to an unaffordable level to make themselves even richer...

The Left doesn't make those kinds of distinctions any longer, between political ideological differences and depraved greed. They see the 2 offenses as equal.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

There's a dichotomy at play here, and it's how the media treat these instances. Mitch McConnell's home gets descended upon by raving lunatics calling for him to be stabbed in the heart and the MSM touts it as patriotic Americans exercising their 1st amendment right. Chris Cuomo gets called, "Fredo" and OMG!!! IT'S THE N-WORD FOR ITALIANS!. Poor Cuomo!

You have to understand at its core, this problem revolves around the fact that the Left has no moral compass. Lying, manipulation and hypocrisy are who they are and what they do. Applying civility, decency and fairness isn't logical.

So yeah, the Right should continue to take the high road and do things the right way-- at the ballot box. So, believe in our Constitution and know that Trump is reversing the Leftist stacking of the courts.
I think the only way to get them stop is to do it back to them

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

I think the only way to get them stop is to do it back to them

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Is that a call for violence? I thought you were considering taking the high road?
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

There's a dichotomy at play here, and it's how the media treat these instances. Mitch McConnell's home gets descended upon by raving lunatics calling for him to be stabbed in the heart and the MSM touts it as patriotic Americans exercising their 1st amendment right. Chris Cuomo gets called, "Fredo" and OMG!!! IT'S THE N-WORD FOR ITALIANS!. Poor Cuomo!

You have to understand at its core, this problem revolves around the fact that the Left has no moral compass. Lying, manipulation and hypocrisy are who they are and what they do. Applying civility, decency and fairness isn't logical.

So yeah, the Right should continue to take the high road and do things the right way-- at the ballot box. So, believe in our Constitution and know that Trump is reversing the Leftist stacking of the courts.

You didn't take the high road with your post.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

I think the only way to get them stop is to do it back to them

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

I think the Left excels and some things where those on the Right are still lacking. When it comes to their violent rhetoric, targeting, doxxing, harassing, and generally following the marching order of Maxine Waters, I don't want any part of that. However, I do think the Right can follow their lead when it comes to being on the same page and having a unified voice to drive the narrative. We also need to be more grass roots to engage voters and be those "community organizers".
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

I'm not sure if you misread my post or are intentionally misrepresenting what I said, but this was not what I said, nor was it what I meant to imply. I was simply making a distinction between what tends to happen most often - like a Republican Senator being in a public place, people recognizing them, and then heckling them versus actually doing something morally questionable.

I think I misread your post. :3oops:
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

The Left doesn't make those kinds of distinctions any longer, between political ideological differences and depraved greed. They see the 2 offenses as equal.

Not untrue in numerous instances...

:(
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.
 
Last edited:
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

This is an interesting op ed.

Don't heckle people in their private lives, not even Chris Cuomo

Basically the author makes the point that we should ignore the fact that the left does not condemn public harassment of people on the right, but that we should be the bigger people by giving cumo a pass.

I dont think i agree that Cumo should get a pass. I dont think the double standard will end that way. I think tje right should treat this exactly as the left treat its when the roles are reversed, with extreme indifference and offerimgs of free speech defenses.

Why should cumo or anyone ne free of the consequences of the things they encourage.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

The right murders people, so which side is doing the heckling definitely makes a difference.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Here's my rules, and they haven't changed over the decades. Protest public figures when they are in the business of doing their public work. Don't heckle in a restaurant, or a baseball game or on their way to visit their dying aunt, or at their dentist or in front of their home. This goes for Mitch McConnell, or Cuomo, or Sarah Huckibee Sanders, or Dan Cathey, or Colin Kaepernick. Protest in front of their office, in front of their business ( ceo), or when they are making a public appearance themselves in an official capacity. We need good competent people to serve in politically sensitive and controversial posts, and we need them to be willing to take lower pay than they might otherwise and we need them to be able to sell the idea to their wives, parents and kids! Its not supposed to be hell 24/7 for everyone they come near for 4 years!

Never try to impede their ability to communicate with their audience with repetitious and obnoxious heckling because their audience came to hear their ideas not yours, they took their time, drove to the destination and bought tickets , and they deserve access to what and who they did all that work to listen to, just like any consumer who deserves to get the product advertised and promoted, not your substitute! I want to hear my speaker express his ideas, so I intend to respect other speakers as they express theirs.

If the idea behind what you are doing is to harass them to force them out of their jobs, its a bad idea. That is what you mean to do if you don't respect personal boundaries. If your idea is to express opposition to a stance of theirs in an official capacity, then target their official conduct.

I think it pretty much depends.

Being a public figure comes with certain baggage and responsibility.

Literal heckling of, say, a musician or actors in a play is generally unacceptable.

But if a punk show, or a one-man show mounted by a rapist extolling the virtues thereof?

I say heckle away.

Throw stuff even.

As to politicians, they need WAY more heckled.

WAY more.

But the primary image connoted by heckling is comedians, AKA G*d's lowest creation. (Though jugglers, poets and mimes certainly give them a run for their money.)

I'd rather hear a >good comedian< heckled by a drunken idiot than be subjected to the torture of them doing a 20 minute bit about airline peanuts uninterrupted.

Remember Daniel Tosh?

He was heckled during a rape-joke routine, and responded by suggesting the heckler - a woman - should be gang-raped; that this would be funny.

There was value in this, because anyone who didn't know what a disgusting sociopath Tosh was before he was heckled sure as Hell knew afterward.

Louis CK rushed to Tosh's defense. (Then later lied and said he didn't.)

That raised some red flags with me, so when we learned what old Louis had been up to himself, no surprise.

So heckling can be cool.

But again, it pretty much depends.

When Bush II passes away, would I be upset if his funeral were heckled with cries of "War criminal!" or some such?

I would not.

It depends.
 
Re: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dont-heckle-people-in-their-private-lives-not-even-ch

Sure. When will you do it?
Right after the left does

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Back
Top Bottom